4 door Cuda for sale again

[blown motor]

Coming up next week at Mecum Kissimmee.

[Cuda_mark]

What did it sell for originally?

[moreparts]

What did it sell for originally?

A fourtune.  See what I did there?

[blown motor]

What did it sell for originally?

A fourtune.  See what I did there?

    

[JH27N0B]

What did it sell for originally?

I'm guessing it never actually sold.  This is the 4th or 5th time it was listed at a Mecum auction.  I believe it was Kissimmee last year, and I saw it at Indy last May.  Another listing that I've seen listed in many of their auctions is a lot consisting of the pair of E body pilot convertibles. 
Mecum owns a number of cars and they have a habit of bringing them out to auctions once or twice a year, sometimes for years.  Often they show sold at the auction, but then 4 or 5 auctions later, there it is again.

[dodj]

It's a very ugly car...but the workmanship I saw on cc.c while it was being built was impressive. But in the end it needs to look good to sell...

[Rich G.]

Unfortunately this was one man's dream to create a what if Plymouth made a 4 door Cuda just like GM who made a 4 door Chevelle. Very talented to accomplish that but it's probably a very tough car to find someone with that same interest.

[Brads70]

IMO it's only worth is what useable parts that can be used to restore a 2 door. 

[Cuda Cody]

Love the quality of the work and detail that was done to create it.  Truly an amazing level of detail and workmanship.  However, it's like looking poorly photoshopped car in real life.  It's odd, it's weird, it's cool, but not cool in a way that makes people want to pay big dollar for it.  Either way, what a great accomplishment for the team that pulled it off.  Not a mountain I would have climbed, but they did and they did something that very few people could do.

[cuda hunter]

As I recall from watching the build, the builder didn't just imagine this but viewed an actual prototype at the factory in pre production.  Most people grilled his ass during his build and he didn't leave with a good taste in his mouth.  Very unfortunate. That man had a wealth of information from working at the factories during the correct time period.
  I think the likeness as to what plymouth might have done is well played out.  I would drive it, but, with the amount of detail put into this thing I would not be able to drive it anywhere except out of the trailer at shows and back into the trailer, at shows. 
  Cool car IMO.

[JH27N0B]

As I recall from watching the build, the builder didn't just imagine this but viewed an actual prototype at the factory in pre production.  Most people grilled his ass during his build and he didn't leave with a good taste in his mouth.  Very unfortunate. That man had a wealth of information from working at the factories during the correct time period.
  I think the likeness as to what plymouth might have done is well played out.  I would drive it, but, with the amount of detail put into this thing I would not be able to drive it anywhere except out of the trailer at shows and back into the trailer, at shows. 
  Cool car IMO.

The story Dave Walden told was that someone who worked in the design studio in some peripheral role like the mail room remembered seeing what he thought was a 4 door Barracuda concept in the studio.  Dave was inspired to do this build based on that employee's recollection.  Dave would have been a kid at that time in the late 60s as he was 58 when he died of brain cancer in 2019 so he didn't see it.
You'd think some pictures would have existed of the car in the styling studio if it really existed but who can say for sure now half a century later.
Dave did exceptional work with his reproduction parts and builds, but seemed very thin skinned when it came to criticism. If anyone said anything remotely negative in his threads about builds he'd attack them. He ended up getting kicked off Moparts and cuda-Challenger. In fact he got kicked off Moparts multiple times as he'd rejoin under different names until he'd get recognized and banned again!

[cuda hunter]

As I recall from watching the build, the builder didn't just imagine this but viewed an actual prototype at the factory in pre production.  Most people grilled his ass during his build and he didn't leave with a good taste in his mouth.  Very unfortunate. That man had a wealth of information from working at the factories during the correct time period.
  I think the likeness as to what plymouth might have done is well played out.  I would drive it, but, with the amount of detail put into this thing I would not be able to drive it anywhere except out of the trailer at shows and back into the trailer, at shows. 
  Cool car IMO.

The story Dave Walden told was that someone who worked in the design studio in some peripheral role like the mail room remembered seeing what he thought was a 4 door Barracuda concept in the studio.  Dave was inspired to do this build based on that employee's recollection.  I think Dave would have been a kid at that time in the late 60s so he didn't see it.
You'd think some pictures would have existed of the car in the styling studio if it really existed but who can say for sure now half a century later.
Dave did exceptional work with his reproduction parts and builds, but seemed very thin skinned when it came to criticism. If anyone said anything remotely negative in his threads about builds he'd attack them. He ended up getting kicked off Moparts and cuda-Challenger. In fact he got kicked off Moparts multiple times as he'd rejoin under different names until he'd get recognized and banned again!

Thank you for that clarification.  Not trying to mislead.

[Jay Bee]

I picked up literature at his 2017 Carlisle display. Here's a couple, the scans were left at full resolution. He was a great person, I'm just a nobody in this hobby but he spoke respectfully to me and even let me behind the ropes to look closer at the interior. I have no guess on what it'd sell for.

[HP2]

My biggest beef with the car, as was many others, that lead to many confrontations, and resulted in his many bannings, was that he utilized only readily available sedan parts from Plymouth which resulted in the  excessively large greenhouse look of the car that makes it ungodly ugly.

His logic is this is what Plymouth would have done to minimize expense and maximize part utilization, there for he used them too.  IMO, if Plymouth would have seriously built a prototype, they would have created E body specific roof and glass to lower the roofline and create a smoother, and lower profile silhouette that would have been more inline with how an E body looks.

If he had done this, as custom as it would have been, it would entirely changed the look of the car for the better.

[YellowThumper]

I also loosely followed the build.
As others have noted, the work building it was top knotch.
His stubbornness for not deviating from his vision of what the factory would have done cost wise is what also killed the love (or respect) for this project.
The myriad of criticism cements the exact reason the build never happened in the first place.
Overall design idea did not fly and it hit the corporate waste bin.
Deviating from current visual fail to making it more visually appealing is what should have been done.
This IS what factory would have done to make building one viable.
IMHOP of course.