BH23G0B113378 M46 Gordon's car

cuda hunter · January 12, 2025, 05:20:52 PM

another thing that strikes me.
The series of four pictures was a set of pictures Gordon sent to me or posted on Cc.com .
The picture of the car before or as Gordon purchased it appears to possibly still have a scoop on it that looks gnarled up. That makes me think that the scoops I have that I thought were off of BH23G0B113378 might be off of another car. Perhaps that car is the car Gordon purchased those scoops from.
However the fading primer on the back of Gordon's fy1 car has the same color of primer on it as the series of four pictures.
I'm sure Gordon had pictures of this car. I bet Alan had pictures of it.
@kotakid94 You may well have the only pictures left that are available out there. Please look into your files and see if you have any other pictures of the car. I would love to be able to add anything to the legacy of BH23G0B113378

kotakid94 · January 12, 2025, 05:21:35 PM

Quote from: cuda hunter on January 12, 2025, 05:01:18 PMThis is the only picture that I could ever find of Gordon's car. This came from photobucket. Not sure how I got it but it's definitely Gordon's (your) car.
My opinion is that this picture is the location that Gordon purchased the car from. However, maybe you can recognize the home or the other barracuda or the ford truck.
The car does not have the green passengers door here. It does have a dented front passengers fender that appears to be the same dent on the later for sale pictures where the fender is in primer. Looks like the dent is not as big but still the lead of the dent is in the same location.

Perhaps, someone knows of the other barracuda in the back ground. The picture of the rear of another car of which I think is a barracuda.

What makes you think that is Gordon's car before he got it? That car is missing a lot of what his came with. And the back panel looks different it is missing pieces his had.

Edit: the scoops one the car came with the car he did not get those separate. The pic you see of it in primer is as close to the pics I have. Because that is how he got the car. Only things missing from the car in that pic is the grille that he destroyed and the backseats cause he destroyed the 70 Challenger seats he had with welding.

cuda hunter · January 12, 2025, 05:32:16 PM

Same rust on the passengers A pillar in the old picture (found when Gordon first made the car kind of public) as the A pillar rust on the for sale picture in 2014.
And Gordon cut the rear quarters off of the car as I recall.
It is my opinion that is the same car and I have very little doubt about that.

But, if there isn't enough photo evidence there, just omit that consideration.

However, due to these pictures I would contact the guy who sold the car and ask him for pictures. He has more. He could only load so many on the for sale site so I would suspect he has extra pictures.

cuda hunter · January 12, 2025, 05:34:11 PM

Also, as I recall there was another for sale ad. I think it was through a dealership in Tennessee or South Carolina. Just a recollection about this car.
I did not get it copied as back then I was not as obsessed as I am now.

kotakid94 · January 12, 2025, 05:40:50 PM

Quote from: cuda hunter on January 12, 2025, 05:32:16 PMSame rust on the passengers A pillar in the old picture (found when Gordon first made the car kind of public) as the A pillar rust on the for sale picture in 2014.
And Gordon cut the rear quarters off of the car as I recall.
It is my opinion that is the same car and I have very little doubt about that.

But, if there isn't enough photo evidence there, just omit that consideration.

However, due to these pictures I would contact the guy who sold the car and ask him for pictures. He has more. He could only load so many on the for sale site so I would suspect he has extra pictures.

For the price Gordon paid for that car I can tell you with 99.999999% certainty that is not his. They would have had to piece that car in the pic together then primer it to get close. He probably never told anyone what he paid for that car. But the parts alone that came with the car were worth what he paid.

cuda hunter · January 12, 2025, 05:49:29 PM

Quote from: kotakid94 on January 12, 2025, 05:40:50 PMHe probably never told anyone what he paid for that car. But the parts alone that came with the car were worth what he paid.

Don't be bashful.

What did he pay?

What other parts came with the car.

kotakid94 · January 12, 2025, 05:59:29 PM

Quote from: cuda hunter on January 12, 2025, 05:49:29 PM
Quote from: kotakid94 on January 12, 2025, 05:40:50 PMHe probably never told anyone what he paid for that car. But the parts alone that came with the car were worth what he paid.

Don't be bashful.

What did he pay?

What other parts came with the car.

I guess his secret to you guys can finally come out. In 97 or 98 he paid a 1000 dollars. The car came with the car as you see it in primer but with a grille and backseats. Additional parts were two doors (the two doors on the car now the yellow and green ones), another set of front seats, and a bunch more that I can not remember at this point. I was young when 9 or 10 when he got it being 36 now my memory has faded. But I remember boxes of parts because I had to unload them. The pics of it in primer are before he did anything besides rip out the backseats and grille out. It ran and drove but was not road ready. I drove it in and out of the garage while he was gone. It had glass packs on it so it was loud for a 318 lol. I loved driving it the little bit I did it would fire up first try. Last I saw someone wrote it was not running which had to be due to his neglect because I started and drove it.

cuda hunter · January 12, 2025, 06:03:20 PM

Drove it?

That is new news to me.
I don't think Alan ever mentioned it as a running car either in our many conversations about Gordon's car.

Interesting. Cool memories.

kotakid94 · January 12, 2025, 06:15:12 PM

Quote from: cuda hunter on January 12, 2025, 06:03:20 PMDrove it?

That is new news to me.
I don't think Alan ever mentioned it as a running car either in our many conversations about Gordon's car.

Interesting. Cool memories.

Yes I drove it back and forth lol. I did not take it any further than as far as I could go backwards. But he drove it up on the trailer to take it home. And we drove it out of the garage to store it at his buddies house after he moved to Tennessee from Illinois. Had this non stock shifter in it had to pull up on this lever to shift it. Gordon and I speculated that the car was a drag car with the non stock motor at some point then converted back to stock in it's life before we had it. It was running just fine for as long as he had it in Illinois. I never started it again when it was in Tennessee and Alabama and he didnt either apparently.... The pics you see in primer are of the car in Tennessee. That is when we both joined CC.com

cuda hunter · January 12, 2025, 06:21:26 PM

All of the pictures I posted are how the car looked when you knew it?
Are those pictures in the sellers restoration garage? I got those pictures from the for sale ad.

Interesting if that is indeed how the car looked back in the 90's.

kotakid94 · January 12, 2025, 06:28:35 PM

Quote from: cuda hunter on January 12, 2025, 06:21:26 PMAll of the pictures I posted are how the car looked when you knew it?
Are those pictures in the sellers restoration garage? I got those pictures from the for sale ad.

Interesting if that is indeed how the car looked back in the 90's.

The pics of it in red primer is what it looked like he when he got it in 97 or 98. The pics you posted of it in 2017 are pics of the car after he did a bunch of stuff to it. Only thing left original in the pics as far as sheet metal I can see is the back panel and front hood piece thats still that primer color. Besides parts of the unibody a lot was changed in those pics whatever isnt yellow was changed since he got it. The engine bay never got any love apparently including the engine if it was not running.

cuda hunter · January 12, 2025, 06:35:22 PM

I just want to be clear.
All the pictures in the 17 for sale ad are actually pictures of the car when Gordon had it stored?
OR, This is simply what it looked like when Gordon finally sold it to the restoration shop in florida?

kotakid94 · January 12, 2025, 07:38:26 PM

Quote from: cuda hunter on January 12, 2025, 06:35:22 PMI just want to be clear.
All the pictures in the 17 for sale ad are actually pictures of the car when Gordon had it stored?
OR, This is simply what it looked like when Gordon finally sold it to the restoration shop in florida?

Depends on what time frame you are talking about and where youre talking about Gordon storing the car. The car has been in "storage" for coming on 30 years now in at least 5 states lol. From what I can tell this is what it looked like when Gordon sold the car to the restoration shop. After Gordon did the replacing a bunch of stuff. Technically it wasn't the restoration shop that bought it he fell into it. He brokered the deal between Gordon and the buyer. The buyer and his girlfriend went to pick the car up and pay off Gordon for the car. The buyer put a deposit down for the restoration of it but the business owner never heard from him again. He tried calling several times and it eventually became the restoration shop owners car. The shop owner said he wanted to restore it but his business wasn't doing good at the time so he had to sell it.