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B7 Blue AAR Cuda...

Started by anlauto, April 16, 2018, 12:44:31 PM

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anlauto

Thought I found my dream AAR until I saw the fender tag  :'(
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Barracuda/162982490699?hash=item25f283724b:g:rm8AAOSwL3JaxdxO&vxp=mtr

I was even getting ready to "live" with the automatic... :haha:
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Cuda Cody

If it was a real B7 AAR that would have been sweet.  That's an awesome combo.  EF8 doesn't do as much for me as the blues do, but it can be a great color when freshly done.

anlauto

There's only 2 or 3 B7 AAR's known to exist.....I missed out on one years ago....never knew where it ended up...
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6bblgt

I find it odd that there are so few EB7 AARs - as it is the closest available color to the factory race cars  :stayinlane:

maybe the actual market for the cars wasn't the same group as the fans / members of the TRANS AM / SCCA & the marketing research was off because of someone's tunnel vision wanting it to be a successful endeavor   :drunk: after all GM FoMoCo & AMC were already playing

I only know of 2 in EB7 - both are H6B5 & CANADA spec. one auto/one 4-speed :dunno: there has to be more  :fingerscrossed:

Jim AAR

#4
Quote from: 6bblgt on April 16, 2018, 02:19:14 PM
I find it odd that there are so few EB7 AARs - as it is the closest available color to the factory race cars  :stayinlane:

maybe the actual market for the cars wasn't the same group as the fans / members of the TRANS AM / SCCA & the marketing research was off because of someone's tunnel vision wanting it to be a successful endeavor   :drunk: after all GM FoMoCo & AMC were already playing

I only know of 2 in EB7 - both are H6B5 & CANADA spec. one auto/one 4-speed :dunno: there has to be more  :fingerscrossed:

I have one and it's a 4 spd.

Here's the color breakdown for AAR's from TransAmCuda.com: http://www.transamcuda.com/aar-cuda-vin-list/ 

As of 7/22/2017  These are the color totals for the known AAR's

BL1 – 1
DY3 – 1     EV2 – 115    FJ6 – 58
EB3 – 1     EW1 – 63     FK5 – 98
EB5 – 96    FC7 – 114    FM3 – 53
EB7 – 4     FE5 – 215    FT6 – 3
EF8 – 97    FF4 – 76     FY1 – 165
EK2 – 96    FJ5 – 90     TX9 – 35

Here's the B7's on the Registry:

289   D21   EB7   EB7   H6B5   03/31/1970   SIAC   CANADA Y07 (This one is mine)
292   D32   EB7   EB7   H6BW   04/02/1970   SIAC   CANADA Y07 - A01-A62
303   D32   EB7   EB7   H6X9   04/13/1970      
309   D32   EB7   EB7   H6B5   04/17/1970   SIAC   CANADA Y07

RUNCHARGER

Some interesting figures there. Quite a few FJ6 ones it seems.
Sheldon

superdave

 :unbelievable: Wow, that's fascinating, I never would have guessed that many green or pink for that matter. :dunno:


Jim AAR

Quote from: anlauto on April 16, 2018, 02:00:51 PM
There's only 2 or 3 B7 AAR's known to exist.....I missed out on one years ago....never knew where it ended up...

Quote from: HEMICUDA on April 17, 2018, 05:13:11 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 17, 2018, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on April 17, 2018, 01:46:02 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 16, 2018, 12:53:11 PM
***WANTED***

Anybody know of an original TX9 Black AAR Cuda is for sale ? Preferably a nice number's matching project car, but would even consider a basket case project if priced accordingly...May even consider a reasonably priced show poodle version...

***NOT FOR ME****

I have a friend looking for one.... 8)

So, what do you think a done black 4 speed is worth in todays market?

A good documented example numbers matching, restored correctly......$150K-$165K probably, maybe more to the right buyer? Automatic would not bring it down that much. I don't really follow sales of TX9 cars closely...

That's about 30k-40k light.
Quote from: anlauto on April 17, 2018, 05:27:19 AM
You're probably right...not a lot of AAR's topple $200K, but if they did, they would have to be black... :alan2cents:

Just a question (I'm not selling it),  if I did a quality @anlauto or @HEMICUDA restoration on my EB7 AAR 4 spd, what would it be worth on the open market?

Owned by me since 1979, (I bought it from the 2nd owner, I think it came from Westport Chrysler in Winnipeg, but not 100% sure, no idea who the 1st owner was) all numbers matching, all original sheet metal. never been in a collision, have Tags & Broadcast sheet.

Like I said, i'm not selling it, i'm just wondering how much I could sink into it and still be profitable if I did decide to sell it.

303 Mopar

Quote from: Jim AAR on April 17, 2018, 07:40:41 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 16, 2018, 02:00:51 PM
There's only 2 or 3 B7 AAR's known to exist.....I missed out on one years ago....never knew where it ended up...

Quote from: HEMICUDA on April 17, 2018, 05:13:11 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 17, 2018, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on April 17, 2018, 01:46:02 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 16, 2018, 12:53:11 PM
***WANTED***

Anybody know of an original TX9 Black AAR Cuda is for sale ? Preferably a nice number's matching project car, but would even consider a basket case project if priced accordingly...May even consider a reasonably priced show poodle version...

***NOT FOR ME****

I have a friend looking for one.... 8)

So, what do you think a done black 4 speed is worth in todays market?

A good documented example numbers matching, restored correctly......$150K-$165K probably, maybe more to the right buyer? Automatic would not bring it down that much. I don't really follow sales of TX9 cars closely...

That's about 30k-40k light.
Quote from: anlauto on April 17, 2018, 05:27:19 AM
You're probably right...not a lot of AAR's topple $200K, but if they did, they would have to be black... :alan2cents:

Just a question (I'm not selling it),  if I did a quality @anlauto or @HEMICUDA restoration on my EB7 AAR 4 spd, what would it be worth on the open market?

Owned by me since 1979, (I bought it from the 2nd owner, I think it came from Westport Chrysler in Winnipeg, but not 100% sure, no idea who the 1st owner was) all numbers matching, all original sheet metal. never been in a collision, have Tags & Broadcast sheet.

Like I said, i'm not selling it, i'm just wondering how much I could sink into it and still be profitable if I did decide to sell it.

Six figures, more if its a 4 spd and all numbers car.

HEMICUDA

Quote from: Jim AAR on April 17, 2018, 07:40:41 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 16, 2018, 02:00:51 PM
There's only 2 or 3 B7 AAR's known to exist.....I missed out on one years ago....never knew where it ended up...

Quote from: HEMICUDA on April 17, 2018, 05:13:11 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 17, 2018, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on April 17, 2018, 01:46:02 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 16, 2018, 12:53:11 PM
***WANTED***

Anybody know of an original TX9 Black AAR Cuda is for sale ? Preferably a nice number's matching project car, but would even consider a basket case project if priced accordingly...May even consider a reasonably priced show poodle version...

***NOT FOR ME****

I have a friend looking for one.... 8)

So, what do you think a done black 4 speed is worth in todays market?

A good documented example numbers matching, restored correctly......$150K-$165K probably, maybe more to the right buyer? Automatic would not bring it down that much. I don't really follow sales of TX9 cars closely...

That's about 30k-40k light.
Quote from: anlauto on April 17, 2018, 05:27:19 AM
You're probably right...not a lot of AAR's topple $200K, but if they did, they would have to be black... :alan2cents:

Just a question (I'm not selling it),  if I did a quality @anlauto or @HEMICUDA restoration on my EB7 AAR 4 spd, what would it be worth on the open market?

Owned by me since 1979, (I bought it from the 2nd owner, I think it came from Westport Chrysler in Winnipeg, but not 100% sure, no idea who the 1st owner was) all numbers matching, all original sheet metal. never been in a collision, have Tags & Broadcast sheet.

Like I said, i'm not selling it, i'm just wondering how much I could sink into it and still be profitable if I did decide to sell it.

That's a tough one for me to answer Jim, I haven't seen a B7 4 speed restored to that level sold.  If I had to guess, with the rarity of that color, north of 100K maybe as high as 135K to the right person.

Jim AAR

Quote from: 303 Mopar on April 17, 2018, 07:56:30 AM
Quote from: Jim AAR on April 17, 2018, 07:40:41 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 16, 2018, 02:00:51 PM
There's only 2 or 3 B7 AAR's known to exist.....I missed out on one years ago....never knew where it ended up...

Quote from: HEMICUDA on April 17, 2018, 05:13:11 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 17, 2018, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on April 17, 2018, 01:46:02 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 16, 2018, 12:53:11 PM
***WANTED***

Anybody know of an original TX9 Black AAR Cuda is for sale ? Preferably a nice number's matching project car, but would even consider a basket case project if priced accordingly...May even consider a reasonably priced show poodle version...

***NOT FOR ME****

I have a friend looking for one.... 8)

So, what do you think a done black 4 speed is worth in todays market?

A good documented example numbers matching, restored correctly......$150K-$165K probably, maybe more to the right buyer? Automatic would not bring it down that much. I don't really follow sales of TX9 cars closely...

That's about 30k-40k light.
Quote from: anlauto on April 17, 2018, 05:27:19 AM
You're probably right...not a lot of AAR's topple $200K, but if they did, they would have to be black... :alan2cents:

Just a question (I'm not selling it),  if I did a quality @anlauto or @HEMICUDA restoration on my EB7 AAR 4 spd, what would it be worth on the open market?

Owned by me since 1979, (I bought it from the 2nd owner, I think it came from Westport Chrysler in Winnipeg, but not 100% sure, no idea who the 1st owner was) all numbers matching, all original sheet metal. never been in a collision, have Tags & Broadcast sheet.

Like I said, i'm not selling it, i'm just wondering how much I could sink into it and still be profitable if I did decide to sell it.

Six figures, more if its a 4 spd and all numbers car.

It is a 4 spd, all numbers matching, all original sheet metal, Fender Tags, Broadcast sheet, owned by me since 1979.


anlauto

#11
It's not the "car" that's worth $200K when you're talking about TX9 black AAR's......it's the demand. There are a lot of potential buyers looking specifically for black cars and what's cooler then a black AAR. They very rarely come up for sale....so if a good one was to go to auction, the price would certainly be driven up a lot higher then your average AAR. I believe member HEMICUDA owns one, so he would have a better idea of what it would take to buy his....hence the $200K dollar figure.

Now as for yours.....Any properly restored documented, numbers matching AAR Cuda in a decent colour should fetch six figures or really close...in the $90's for sure.

Yours being very unique with B7 exterior, B5 interior and a four speed....would be in the $110K -$115K likely, but you wouldn't have the same demand as a black one, or pink one, and a lot of buyers would look for other high impact colours besides dark blue as well....

If I restored your car, it would cost roughly $60K+ so I think you would be doing okay :alan2cents:
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303 Mopar

Quote from: Jim AAR on April 17, 2018, 08:05:17 AM
Quote from: 303 Mopar on April 17, 2018, 07:56:30 AM
Quote from: Jim AAR on April 17, 2018, 07:40:41 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 16, 2018, 02:00:51 PM
There's only 2 or 3 B7 AAR's known to exist.....I missed out on one years ago....never knew where it ended up...

Quote from: HEMICUDA on April 17, 2018, 05:13:11 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 17, 2018, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on April 17, 2018, 01:46:02 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 16, 2018, 12:53:11 PM
***WANTED***

Anybody know of an original TX9 Black AAR Cuda is for sale ? Preferably a nice number's matching project car, but would even consider a basket case project if priced accordingly...May even consider a reasonably priced show poodle version...

***NOT FOR ME****

I have a friend looking for one.... 8)

So, what do you think a done black 4 speed is worth in todays market?

A good documented example numbers matching, restored correctly......$150K-$165K probably, maybe more to the right buyer? Automatic would not bring it down that much. I don't really follow sales of TX9 cars closely...

That's about 30k-40k light.
Quote from: anlauto on April 17, 2018, 05:27:19 AM
You're probably right...not a lot of AAR's topple $200K, but if they did, they would have to be black... :alan2cents:

Just a question (I'm not selling it),  if I did a quality @anlauto or @HEMICUDA restoration on my EB7 AAR 4 spd, what would it be worth on the open market?

Owned by me since 1979, (I bought it from the 2nd owner, I think it came from Westport Chrysler in Winnipeg, but not 100% sure, no idea who the 1st owner was) all numbers matching, all original sheet metal. never been in a collision, have Tags & Broadcast sheet.

Like I said, i'm not selling it, i'm just wondering how much I could sink into it and still be profitable if I did decide to sell it.

Six figures, more if its a 4 spd and all numbers car.

It is a 4 spd, all numbers matching, all original sheet metal, Fender Tags, Broadcast sheet, owned by me since 1979.

The AAR's and TA's have come down a little recently but I would guess $125-135.   :notsure:

6bblgt

Quote from: Jim AAR on April 17, 2018, 07:40:41 AMJust a question (I'm not selling it),  if I did a quality @anlauto or @HEMICUDA restoration on my EB7 AAR 4 spd, what would it be worth on the open market?

Owned by me since 1979, (I bought it from the 2nd owner, I think it came from Westport Chrysler in Winnipeg, but not 100% sure, no idea who the 1st owner was) all numbers matching, all original sheet metal. never been in a collision, have Tags & Broadcast sheet.

Like I said, i'm not selling it, i'm just wondering how much I could sink into it and still be profitable if I did decide to sell it.

taking apart a presentable, running & driving car can be a gamble .....

sell it now & it's worth $50K - $75K
wisely spend $50K now it's worth $70K - $100K
wisely spend $75K now it's worth $100K - $135K

restoration costs & time required can change quickly - sale prices are not guaranteed either
if you were having these same thoughts in 2008 it would've sounded like a good plan, unless you needed to sell in 2010

anlauto

 :iagree: Very wise words spoken here...
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