440 Timing "all in" RPM

[7dcuda]

Just installed a complete MSD Ignition system on my street build 440 and am sampling different timing curves.  Should I shoot to have total timing "all in" at 2,500, 3,000, or 3,500 RPM? 

440 is a typical street build i.e. headers, intake, 4bbl, cam (Mopar purple shaft 284/484), MSD ignition system.  Has 3.73 rear gears and is a 4 speed.

[blown motor]

No answer here, I'm still learning too. What is your initial timing?

[RUNCHARGER]

As quick as you can without it pinging, try for 2500.

[Chryco Psycho]

I agree get the timing is as soon as possible & use a short timing curve , generally more advance at idle helps

[7dcuda]

 Thanks for the replies.  I'll install an advance spring combination that'll put me all in at 2,500 rpm and see how it goes.

[ek3]

 i use 16- 18 initial w 36 total . all in @ 2400... i have 915 closed chamber heads..[10-25-1] comp ratio,   16-18 really helps idol richness when its warmed up... i am on factory dual point . an msd may help it even more..... premium reg gas ! [440-6] dyno set up...

[70vert]

16-18 seems like a lot. I assume that is w/o vacuum advance connected? I currently closer to 12 on a 440 with OEM electronic ignition (mild build - headers, M1 intake w/750cfm, 67 closed chamber heads, and Comp Cam). I still max out at 36 but not sure what rpm.

i use 16- 18 initial w 36 total . all in @ 2400... i have 915 closed chamber heads..[10-25-1] comp ratio,   16-18 really helps idol richness when its warmed up... i am on factory dual point . an msd may help it even more..... premium reg gas ! [440-6] dyno set up...

[RSI700VIPER]

 

As quick as you can without it pinging, try for 2500.

My 440 runs the best with all in at 2500rpms at 36 degrees.

[ek3]

16-18 seems like a lot. I assume that is w/o vacuum advance connected? I currently closer to 12 on a 440 with OEM electronic ignition (mild build - headers, M1 intake w/750cfm, 67 closed chamber heads, and Comp Cam). I still max out at 36 but not sure what rpm.

i use 16- 18 initial w 36 total . all in @ 2400... i have 915 closed chamber heads..[10-25-1] comp ratio,   16-18 really helps idol richness when its warmed up... i am on factory dual point . an msd may help it even more..... premium reg gas ! [440-6] dyno set up...

16-18 Will get you a nice clean idol.....  may seem like a lot , but it works really well..... no starter issues unless you get above 18...

[Claudia]

As quick as you can without it pinging, try for 2500.

My 440 runs the best with all in at 2500rpms at 36 degrees.

My 440 is all in at 2,500 RPM at 35 degrees.

[usraptor]

440/512 stroker, Bullet custom hydraulic roller cam, Aluminum heads, Holley dominator single plane intake, Quickfuel 880 CFM, Electronic distributor, TTI 1 7/8" headers, 3" X pipe exhaust, 91 octane.  Vacuum advance disconnected, 18 degrees at idle and 36 degrees all in at 2500 RPM.  Starts easy, runs cool even on 90+ days, and runs strong.