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Started by B5 Six Pack, December 17, 2017, 01:43:38 PM

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B5 Six Pack

The clutch pedal on my 73 Cuda will not quite return all the way against the stop on its own. I do not know what type of clutch is installed. It shifts fine. The large spring is installed at the top of the pedal. When the pedal is depressed and then released, it will return to within about 3/4" of the stop. It takes very little pressure by hand or with a  toe to cause it to sort of snap over center back to the stop. It seems to me that the problem has something to do with that big spring. I don't feel that the throw out bearing is riding against the pressure plate, but I would nevertheless like to fix this. Ideas? Thanks.

73440

When mine had the same problem, I would use my foot under the pedal to bring it up , I adjusted the fork rod and that fixed the droop.

B5 Six Pack

Thanks for posting and for the picture. Certainly adjusting the rod out will force the pedal back, but at the expense of free play. Since it takes so little pressure to get the pedal to pop back, perhaps a small adjustment will do the trick but not cause the T.O. bearing to be against the pressure plate. I think you're right, it's probably the first thing to try. Seems like I read somewhere that some owners do away with the big pedal spring...??  :huh:


usraptor

I know this is going to sound strange, but with some clutches they actually recommend removing the large return spring as supposedly it can cause the clutch pedal to stay depressed after you remove you foot.  I removed mine and it works fine with no issues.

dodj

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Quote from: usraptor on December 17, 2017, 04:09:05 PM
I know this is going to sound strange, but with some clutches they actually recommend removing the large return spring as supposedly it can cause the clutch pedal to stay depressed after you remove you foot.  I removed mine and it works fine with no issues.
That's with the diaphragm clutches. I have one and removed the spring and all is good. BUT, B5 doesn't have a diaphragm clutch. If he did, the pedal wouldn't come off the floor with the over centre spring still installed.
I suspect a free play adjustment issue. There is also a small spring on the clutch fork itself. Is it missing? (fork return spring in picture)
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usraptor

Quote from: dodj on December 17, 2017, 04:23:49 PM
Quote from: usraptor on December 17, 2017, 04:09:05 PM
I know this is going to sound strange, but with some clutches they actually recommend removing the large return spring as supposedly it can cause the clutch pedal to stay depressed after you remove you foot.  I removed mine and it works fine with no issues.
That's with the diaphragm clutches. I have one and removed the spring and all is good. BUT, B5 doesn't have a diaphragm clutch. If he did, the pedal wouldn't come off the floor with the over centre spring still installed.
I suspect a free play adjustment issue. There is also a small spring on the clutch fork itself. Is it missing?

Not entirely accurate.  I have a diaphragm clutch also, and I had not problem with the pedal coming off the floor with the large return spring attached.  The only reason I removed it was of some threads that I read that said that it MAY cause the clutch pedal to stay on the floor with the large return spring attached. 

Chryco Psycho

all you need is to adjust the threaded rod on the linkage , the clutch is worn a bit & it will pop all the way up when adjusted properly , just make sure you have approx 1" of free play at the top


Topcat

I ended up using an A body clutch rod since it has a longer thread length.

I suspect my bell crank is a small block was the reason why I ended up doing this.

It works fine so WTH, just keep it going.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Clutch-Rod-Linkage-Service-Kit-67-76-A-Body-Big-Block-Dart-Demon-Duster/231803596914?hash=item35f8923072:g:aGQAAOSwLzdWSp7Q&vxp=mtr

There is also a ball adjuster on the fork end which I bought from Rick Ehrenberg.
Pretty cool item as well.

B5 Six Pack

Adjusting (lengthening) the rod about 3 turns solved the problem.  :bigthumb: I'm not a fan of the big spring however.

Chryco Psycho


Topcat

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What I was mentioning earlier...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Clutch-Linkage-Solid-Steel-Swivel-A833-340-440-Dart-Coronet-GTX-R-T-Cuda/322933779202?hash=item4b305a6b02:g:LosAAOxyM89Scwll

Layout, pix, text, html © 1999-2014 R. Ehrenberg. Mopar: Clutch Linkage Swivel "Fix". Replaces rubber insulator and curved washer at clutch fork. Prevent clutch from going out of adjustment and/or a sudden pedal "drop".