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Started by blown motor, November 02, 2021, 01:58:17 PM

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blown motor

This is the cam that is in the 440 that's in the truck I bought a few weeks ago. How radical is it? What carb would work best, it has a 680 Holley on it now with headers. The 440 is .030 over, 9.7:1 cr. Any guess at what horsepower this combo would make?
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68 Charger R/T    74 Challenger Rallye 
12 Challenger RT Classic    15 Challenger SXT
79 Macho Power Wagon clone    17 Ram Rebel

dodj

Don't know much about cam numbers...just do what CP tells me...but that carb MUST be too small.
I had a 600 on my 318! Thinking you should at least have a 750.
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blown motor

Who has more fun than people!
68 Charger R/T    74 Challenger Rallye 
12 Challenger RT Classic    15 Challenger SXT
79 Macho Power Wagon clone    17 Ram Rebel


ledphoot

#3
Comp Cams dual energy hydraulic.. reasonably mild street cam.

Here's one in a 383



You could probably get it to run okay with a 650 but I'd think a big motors gonna want more flow than that. Make sure your whole fuel system is up to the task.

Too many variables to accurately guess horsepower but probably over 400, EDIT: probably closer to 420 if it's tuned good.

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jimynick

Hey Murray!! He's got your Charger's licence plates on!!! LOL  :))
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blown motor

Who has more fun than people!
68 Charger R/T    74 Challenger Rallye 
12 Challenger RT Classic    15 Challenger SXT
79 Macho Power Wagon clone    17 Ram Rebel


Chryco Psycho

#7
Junk & not just because it is Comp
it has similar duration to factory cams with slightly better lift on exhaust side  but the factory used 114* LSA to trap compression , this has 110 .
I use 110* Only if running headers & you want higher rpm power , so now you have high RPM LSA without lift or duration this will be a dog everywhere , you will never make as much power at any RPM as a stock cam would & 50 years later there are far better then stock cams available .
Will it even spin the tires ..... on ice ?
As usual I would recommend 2x the CI for the carb or EFI , 680 is for a mild small block

ledphoot

Dang, I thought looking at the specs it'd be good for about ten percent more than stock probably more bottom earlier but fall off earlier too. Kind of like an "RV" cam. Hmmm


Chryco Psycho

#9
Nope 214 @ .050 duration is great for off idle but with a 110 lsa you bleed off compression into the exhaust so no power down low & at 2500 up where the 110 LSA is great 214 dur will get you nowhere , I would never mix these 2 specs on the same cam .

Filthy Filbert

Card says it's intended to be installed at 106, aka "4 degrees of advance" which will close the intake valve earlier and help with some bottom end, but as the others have said, not a whole lot of duration, and not very much lift.

the 360 magnum in my dakota has a 222/228 cam with .525 lift.   Cubic inches 'eat' duration, so cam specs that're choppy and radical in a smaller motor will sound docile in a bigger motor.   

I'm betting that the cam you have will sound like a stock cam


dodj

I'm thinking someone will recommend a lunati 702 or 703 with an 850cfm or better. Put the 'power' in power wagon.... :burnout:
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ledphoot

#12
This is motor is in a power wagon so something like the Lunati 702 or a Hughes HE2330BL would probably be about right if he is actually at 9.7:1 compression and then a bigger carb or a Holley Sniper unit would give it all the air and fuel she needs :) The truck has headers already so it should be able to get the spent gases out.

I'd drive it as is first and see what you think, it's a truck, does it have grunt to spin the big tires? If so, leave it.