I'm seeing more and more of this.

[BIGSHCLUNK]

Ya I got it cheap on Rockauto (jus an example, not a statement) I'm seeing more an more "new" parts that are just crap right out of the box. Personally I'll take lightly used OEM thank you (go figure?) I came across this an thought it may be of interest

[Jay Bee]

Personally I'll take lightly used OEM thank you (go figure?)

Exactly!!! I'm most leery about the few electronic parts on our cars and the tons of them on my '14 Toyota.

[BIGSHCLUNK]

Personally I'll take lightly used OEM thank you (go figure?)

Exactly!!! I'm most leery about the few electronic parts on our cars and the tons of them on my '14 Toyota.

My most recent experience was a purge valve... junk right out of the box. Pulled an OEM out of the yard. Done!

[Duodec]

Saw that video earlier.

One of my online car buddies works for a major car company on the service management side and flat out refuses to recommend or use any part that is not from the OEM on recent cars; too many problems with third party even from once quality respected brands like Standard and Moog.

[blown motor]

The shop that does my service work says that they're using more and more dealer parts and less and less aftermarket parts.

[EV2RTSE]

It's bad. And then you look at the stock prices of some of these companies, like Autozone for example, ($3458.55 per share) and  .

[JH27N0B]

People have been saying for years the car hobby will soon end because enthusiasts are all middle age or retired, they'll soon die off, and no one will be left to buy their cars because no young people are interested in cars.
I don't agree with that, I see lots of younger car fans.
But in recent times I have started to really worry about the future of the hobby because of parts.
Quality and availability have gone down noticeably in the last 20 years.  The stock of NOS, NORS, and good used parts shrinks. Hobbyists who specialize in restoration of certain components as a business seem to be aging out too.
I screwed up not long ago tying down my convertible to transport it home from a show in my trailer, and damaged a front brake hose. I got a new one at NAPA and it was from China.  I really didn't like the looks of it, and remembered I had a couple barely used NAPA United ones stashed away that had been on my T/A before I tore it apart for restoration 25 years ago.  I cleaned one up and used it instead of the $35 Chineseum part that NAPA sells now.
Very sad situation.

[Duodec]

Even dealers aren't able to get parts sometimes for recent cars.  There are so many variations year by year (or even more often) of complex electronic parts that have their own dependencies on parts from suppliers (chips, controllers, etc, made by subs used in larger components like gauges or instrument panels or vehicle computers); lose one of those subs, or if they decide not to make any more of a given component, and you are stuck with whats left in the pipeline.  The MFG is not going to redesign/re-engineer a component for a several year old car so more can be made unless they are under severe duress (like getting sued because they aren't able to honor warranties). 

Then after the supply dries up you are stuck with third parties who have to reverse engineer complex components, probably write their own emulator programs (due to copyright), etc, a much more expensive proposition than figuring out how to reproduce a mechanical or electromechanical part... and how long that will take, how much it will cost, how long until they see a profit....

I expect that despite chinesium parts and bad quality parts, and barring draconian regulation by a hostile government, there will be more 1970-1990 cars still in good running condition in 2070-2090 than 2020 vehicles

[Spikedog08]

Interesting read . . Not that surprising.   

[BIGSHCLUNK]

Even dealers aren't able to get parts sometimes for recent cars.  There are so many variations year by year (or even more often) of complex electronic parts that have their own dependencies on parts from suppliers (chips, controllers, etc, made by subs used in larger components like gauges or instrument panels or vehicle computers); lose one of those subs, or if they decide not to make any more of a given component, and you are stuck with whats left in the pipeline.  The MFG is not going to redesign/re-engineer a component for a several year old car so more can be made unless they are under severe duress (like getting sued because they aren't able to honor warranties). 

Then after the supply dries up you are stuck with third parties who have to reverse engineer complex components, probably write their own emulator programs (due to copyright), etc, a much more expensive proposition than figuring out how to reproduce a mechanical or electromechanical part... and how long that will take, how much it will cost, how long until they see a profit....

I expect that despite chinesium parts and bad quality parts, and barring draconian regulation by a hostile government, there will be more 1970-1990 cars still in good running condition in 2070-2090 than 2020 vehicles

I have to agree with some of your statements. In the last few years we are selling more odd-ball do dad parts then ever before... but they are OEM