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Power Steering Gearbox & Pump Identification.
« on: March 06, 2020, 07:42:33 AM »
Can anyone help me identify this gearbox and pumps. Iím trying to determine if these are correct for my 70 Challenger before I have them rebuilt. These were on the car when I got it.

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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2020, 07:44:34 AM »
Here are the pics of the pumps. Both have the same number on them


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Re: Power Steering Gearbox & Pump Identification.
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2020, 08:34:59 AM »
Anyone happen to have Galenís White book and can assist with checking these numbers.

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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2020, 05:17:29 PM »
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Re: Power Steering Gearbox & Pump Identification.
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2020, 09:20:29 PM »
First thing I would do is check the parts book for the correct pump and gearbox. The parts book is located in the Resources section of this website. I would assume that the correct parts are dependent on engine in your Challenger. Here is a few photos of the parts that came on my 1970 Challenger R/T SE 383 with AC. My power steering pump is a Saginaw model. Can't quite tell from your photos but yours look like Federal pumps to me.

I hope they help you.  :cheers:

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2020, 12:46:11 AM »
this definitely need more investigation/pictures/data/info but "WE" need to start somewhere- so here goes:

POWER STEERING BOXES
there's not much info out there for what is original/correct for our cars

#1 - from a Hamtramck assembled '69 Charger 318     :alan2cents: I believe original to the car
          903-SPD (Tuesday 9/3/68) * cast: 7298 (Monday 7/29/68) * assembled 2278 (Thursday 8/15/68) * G-2267282 R2

#2 - found in a Hamtramck assembled '70 Challenger R/T SE 383    :alan2cents: I believe this has been replaced @headejm
          cast: 12188 (Wednesday 12/18/68) * assembled 0169 (Thursday 1/16/69) * G-2267282 R1

#3 - from a Hamtramck assembled '70 Challenger 318     :alan2cents: I believe original to the car @Chaos-N-Mayhem
          A26-SPD (Sunday 10/26/69) * cast: 7109 (Monday 7/10/69) * assembled ???? * G-2267282 R5

#4 - from a Hamtramck assembled '70 Challenger R/T 383     :alan2cents: I believe original to the car @6bblgt
          702-SPD (Thursday 7/2/70) * cast: 5210 (Thursday 5/21/70) * assembled X X (?/??/??) * G-2267282 R7

I am of the impression that under normal circumstances the same foundry/manufacturer would be supplying the same assembly plants due to logistics/contracts/other and the components, such as the power steering boxes, would have similar attributes from month-to-month and even year-to-year
with @headejm 's power steering box having the date up-side-down VS. the others & the "CLOCK" on the webbing VS. nothing on the others - that it has been replaced at some point in the past 50 years and started life in a 1969 model year vehicle
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2020, 01:29:41 AM »
power steering gearbox bare housing part numbers

1969 Parts Catalog:
2537397 = 1969 A & B-bodies
2537398 = 1969 C-bodies

1970 Parts Catalog:
2537397 = 1970 A, B & E-bodies (non-T/A box)
2537398 = 1970 C-bodies
2948900 = 1970 E-bodies w/quick ratio T/A box

1970-'71 Parts Catalog:
2948991 = 1971 A, B & E-bodies (non-T/A box)
2537398 = 1971 C-bodies
2948900 = 1971 E-bodies w/quick ratio T/A box

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2020, 04:16:33 PM »
Hereís mine, if it helps. 11/4/69 SPD 440 RT Challenger. Iíd have every reason to think this is original.
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2020, 05:51:03 PM »
 :iagree: @7E-Bodies it looks appropriate  :bigthumb:

I also believe these were painted "black" when new

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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2020, 06:11:25 PM »
I found a LA built B-body in a junkyard with a similar power steering box casting to @headejm 's - it has the "CLOCK" but the date has the correct orientation

#5 - from a Los Angeles assembled '69 Plymouth B-body    :alan2cents:  I believe original to the remains of a car in a junkyard
          car was built mid-January '69 * cast: 10298 (Tuesday 10/29/68) * assembled 3118 (Wednesday 11/6/68) * G-2267282 R2



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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2020, 07:22:28 PM »
this is in a '71 Challenger, curious to the origins of this steering box - from the Phillips screw heads, "CLOCK" hand w/o dots & an odd date  :huh:

#6 - found in a Hamtramck assembled '71 Challenger
          does + 1210 + decode as: Wednesday 1/21/70, Tuesday 12/1/70 or 121st day of 1970 (Friday 5/1/70) * G-2267282 R6
          JH23 w/C22-SPD (Tuesday 12/22/70) the aluminum tag assembly date is 3080 (Wednesday 11/4/70), is this original to the car?

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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2020, 10:08:23 PM »
This is brilliant info guys! I am learning a lot.your knowledge is appreciated.

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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2020, 08:01:58 AM »
I just took this box out of my 71 road runner, 383, 4 speed, air grabber car. I'm the second owner since 1994 and car was built at the L.A. plant in early August 1970.

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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2020, 08:14:59 AM »
Just sent my box to Firm feel and a warning  to remove the aluminum tag before you ship as they remove it and don't reinstall. My box had a lot of black paint on it.

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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2020, 08:20:42 AM »
Now Iím curious to check again. My date is correct but I never looked for the tag. Headed back to the shop.

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