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Power Wagon, need your opinion

Started by blown motor, May 28, 2020, 10:16:03 AM

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ec_co

Quote from: anlauto on May 30, 2020, 07:34:05 AM
I think people want them 'cause they look cool, who cares how they use it....and are the factory ones "really" built for serious off-roading ?

yes, the Raptor and new TRX (T-Rex) Rebel are both VERY capable off-road beasts ... capable of running a Baja 1000 in factory trim just fine. try that in any other truck and it will fall apart
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'70 Barracuda B5/B5 225 /6 3spd ... about as bare bones as they came

Msbaugh440

Arguably VERY capable Offroad. Full under body armor, disconnecting sway bars, front and rear locking axles, warn 10k winch, and incredible travel with the articulink suspension, etc. incredible truck for off-roading. The biggest problem is that it's huge and very heavy! Approach and departure angles are good but it's too long to hit most Jeep trails. It's very purposely built for an intended purpose and you can put 35s on it stock without any rubbing.

Problem is that it has less towing/payload capacity than most 1/2 ton trucks and you could expect real life gas mileage to be around 10mpg. It also, surprisingly, has a small capacity fuel tank which makes That even worse. A little better on the newer trucks that now have the 8 speed auto, but still not great.

Just my opinion, but buying one for the graphics and status symbol is pretty silly. If you live somewhere where you can take advantage of the features and Offroad capability I would say go for it, it's an extremely capable truck. But if it's solely a pavement queen, it's a pretty useless purchase. This is coming from someone who lives in Utah though and regularly does some pretty extreme off-roading and has seen these trucks in action.

Here's a picture of my brothers when he slid off a slick road towing a heavy trailer and almost went into a canal. That winch sure came in handy! I normally don't care what anyone else does with their money, but laugh when I see someone driving one of these commuting and has never taken it off the pavement. Take it for what it's worth, just a utilitarian opinion that no one needs to listen to. I also despise mall crawlers and lifting vehicles for no reason other than to look cool, so that's probably not a very popular opinion.

jimynick

Murray, why not buy a normal 4X4 and then the decals and a set of tires and make your own?! Nobody you drive by will be able to tell and you can use the $20-25k that you'll save for insurance and fuel for your fleet, plus a few judicious upgrades here and there, eh?   :twothumbsup:
In the immortal words of Jimmy Scott- "pace yourself!"


blown motor

Quote from: jimynick on May 30, 2020, 11:37:37 AM
Murray, why not buy a normal 4X4 and then the decals and a set of tires and make your own?! Nobody you drive by will be able to tell and you can use the $20-25k that you'll save for insurance and fuel for your fleet, plus a few judicious upgrades here and there, eh?   :twothumbsup:

Spoken like a true Scotsman.  :pokeeye:  :cheers:
Who has more fun than people!
68 Charger R/T    74 Challenger Rallye 
12 Challenger RT Classic    15 Challenger SXT
79 Macho Power Wagon clone    17 Ram Rebel

jimynick

Quote from: blown motor on May 30, 2020, 02:24:58 PM
Quote from: jimynick on May 30, 2020, 11:37:37 AM
Murray, why not buy a normal 4X4 and then the decals and a set of tires and make your own?! Nobody you drive by will be able to tell and you can use the $20-25k that you'll save for insurance and fuel for your fleet, plus a few judicious upgrades here and there, eh?   :twothumbsup:

Spoken like a true Scotsman.  :pokeeye:  :cheers:
Och aye, ye damn ol' bog trotter ye!  :cheers:
In the immortal words of Jimmy Scott- "pace yourself!"

cuda hunter

50-70K.  that's a down payment on a rental home that would bring money in. 
Buy a 5 year old used truck for 15K and beat the crap out of it. 

Cool truck though. I have a friend who owns one and uses it in the mountains.  Quite capable. 
heavy, long and expensive are it's only draw backs. 

:alan2cents:
"All riches begin as a state of mind and you have complete control of your mind"  -- B. Lee

anlauto

#21
.....oh he's got the money....heck...he buys empty oil cans just for fun... :pokeeye: :haha: :haha:


Oops...I have to correct this post....The cans of oil are full, just not intended to be used :rofl: :rofl:
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blown motor

Who has more fun than people!
68 Charger R/T    74 Challenger Rallye 
12 Challenger RT Classic    15 Challenger SXT
79 Macho Power Wagon clone    17 Ram Rebel

anlauto

Just go buy the truck already Murray, those things are beautiful :drooling:
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
Check out my web site ....  Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration

blown motor

I've decided I don't really need it. I could get another e-body driver for what they're asking but I don't need that either.  :))
Who has more fun than people!
68 Charger R/T    74 Challenger Rallye 
12 Challenger RT Classic    15 Challenger SXT
79 Macho Power Wagon clone    17 Ram Rebel

anlauto

I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
Check out my web site ....  Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration


GrandpaKevin

I looked at few Power Wagons during my used truck search but just couldn't justify a daily driver gas truck with 4.10 gear so I went with another oil burner.

dodj

Quote from: blown motor on June 01, 2020, 01:04:25 PM
but I don't need that either.  :))
Boil life down to what you 'need'...and the list is pretty short.

You're retired, do whatever you 'want' within your means. Don't limit yourself to what you 'need'.  :alan2cents:
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Msbaugh440

Despite my comments above, this man has a point!!

If you don't want to spend the money on a power wagon, but find that you really want/need all the power wagon options you can look into finding a used or new tradesman Ram 2500. You can build a tradesman bear bones Ram these days and pay the extra money to add the power wagon package to it. Last time I was playing around building one it came out to a pretty decent cost savings. You don't get all the fancy comfort and technology features though...

blown motor

Oh I hear you. I dribble money away on little things easy enough but when it come to dropping large amounts I get more serious about it. It's a cool looking truck but that's the only part of it that appeals to me. I'm sure I can do better on gas mileage and ride comfort in a truck that will handle everything I need it for and for much less money. Then I can dribble away what I save on little things.
Who has more fun than people!
68 Charger R/T    74 Challenger Rallye 
12 Challenger RT Classic    15 Challenger SXT
79 Macho Power Wagon clone    17 Ram Rebel