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Technical Shop => Electrical & Audio => Topic started by: Cudajason on November 08, 2018, 06:43:27 PM

Title: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: Cudajason on November 08, 2018, 06:43:27 PM
Playing around in the garage tonight and thought I would try out the LED lights I recently purchased for my instrument panel lights.

HOLLY CRAP what a difference!  I love technology!!!

I had planned to pull the instrument panel this winter and clean the lenses and "restore" it..not sure I am going to do that now!

Before and after pics below...I think you can guess which are which.

Jason

Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 06:45:34 PM
Duh....you mounted your gauges upside down... :drunk:
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: Cudajason on November 08, 2018, 06:49:43 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 06:45:34 PM
Duh....you mounted your gauges upside down... :drunk:

Makes driving more fun!!!
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: GY3R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:04:42 PM
   Kinda funny.... LED's were used in the early 60's.
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:04:42 PM
   Kinda funny.... LED's were used in the early 60's.

Don't think so....

Cut & Paste...

The first commercial LEDs were commonly used as replacements for incandescent and neon indicator lamps, and in seven-segment displays,[34] first in expensive equipment such as laboratory and electronics test equipment, then later in such appliances as TVs, radios, telephones, calculators, as well as watches (see list of signal uses). Until 1968, visible and infrared LEDs were extremely costly, in the order of US$200 per unit, and so had little practical use. The Monsanto Company was the first organization to mass-produce visible LEDs, using gallium arsenide phosphide (GaAsP) in 1968 to produce red LEDs suitable for indicators.  Hewlett-Packard (HP) introduced LEDs in 1968, initially using GaAsP supplied by Monsanto. These red LEDs were bright enough only for use as indicators, as the light output was not enough to illuminate an area. Readouts in calculators were so small that plastic lenses were built over each digit to make them legible. Later, other colors became widely available and appeared in appliances and equipment.


I think what your referring to is Electroluminescent lighting
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: 6Pack70 on November 08, 2018, 07:19:13 PM
Wow!  That looks great!  What LEDs did you use?   
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: Cudajason on November 08, 2018, 07:20:03 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:04:42 PM
   Kinda funny.... LED's were used in the early 60's.

Yeah funny how slow we are to adopt some technology...the 60s really!

Jason
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: GY3R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:04:42 PM
   Kinda funny.... LED's were used in the early 60's.

Don't think so....

Cut & Paste...

The first commercial LEDs were commonly used as replacements for incandescent and neon indicator lamps, and in seven-segment displays,[34] first in expensive equipment such as laboratory and electronics test equipment, then later in such appliances as TVs, radios, telephones, calculators, as well as watches (see list of signal uses). Until 1968, visible and infrared LEDs were extremely costly, in the order of US$200 per unit, and so had little practical use. The Monsanto Company was the first organization to mass-produce visible LEDs, using gallium arsenide phosphide (GaAsP) in 1968 to produce red LEDs suitable for indicators.  Hewlett-Packard (HP) introduced LEDs in 1968, initially using GaAsP supplied by Monsanto. These red LEDs were bright enough only for use as indicators, as the light output was not enough to illuminate an area. Readouts in calculators were so small that plastic lenses were built over each digit to make them legible. Later, other colors became widely available and appeared in appliances and equipment.


I think what your referring to is Electroluminescent lighting
  with
No. 1962 GE came out with the first visual LED in the form of red Diode.
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: Katfish on November 08, 2018, 07:37:13 PM
 I'm a believer too, and the added bonus is that the LEDs use less than 10% of the current compared to the filament bulbs.
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:04:42 PM
   Kinda funny.... LED's were used in the early 60's.

Don't think so....

Cut & Paste...

The first commercial LEDs were commonly used as replacements for incandescent and neon indicator lamps, and in seven-segment displays,[34] first in expensive equipment such as laboratory and electronics test equipment, then later in such appliances as TVs, radios, telephones, calculators, as well as watches (see list of signal uses). Until 1968, visible and infrared LEDs were extremely costly, in the order of US$200 per unit, and so had little practical use. The Monsanto Company was the first organization to mass-produce visible LEDs, using gallium arsenide phosphide (GaAsP) in 1968 to produce red LEDs suitable for indicators.  Hewlett-Packard (HP) introduced LEDs in 1968, initially using GaAsP supplied by Monsanto. These red LEDs were bright enough only for use as indicators, as the light output was not enough to illuminate an area. Readouts in calculators were so small that plastic lenses were built over each digit to make them legible. Later, other colors became widely available and appeared in appliances and equipment.


I think what your referring to is Electroluminescent lighting
  with
No. 1962 GE came out with the first visual LED in the form of red Diode.


LED's existed in the early 60's.....  Were they used?  Yeah, in government projects & laboratories...   

From the above cut & paste 
"Until 1968, visible and infrared LEDs were extremely costly, in the order of US$200 per unit"
To put that in perspective... In 1964 My dad as an E-5 in the USAF had a base pay of $160 per month.... 
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: RUNCHARGER on November 08, 2018, 07:42:40 PM
Ha, ha: I'm an old guy but apparently I'm the only one that dims the dash lights on an E-body at night.
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: GY3R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:54:54 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on November 08, 2018, 07:04:42 PM
   Kinda funny.... LED's were used in the early 60's.

Don't think so....

Cut & Paste...

The first commercial LEDs were commonly used as replacements for incandescent and neon indicator lamps, and in seven-segment displays,[34] first in expensive equipment such as laboratory and electronics test equipment, then later in such appliances as TVs, radios, telephones, calculators, as well as watches (see list of signal uses). Until 1968, visible and infrared LEDs were extremely costly, in the order of US$200 per unit, and so had little practical use. The Monsanto Company was the first organization to mass-produce visible LEDs, using gallium arsenide phosphide (GaAsP) in 1968 to produce red LEDs suitable for indicators.  Hewlett-Packard (HP) introduced LEDs in 1968, initially using GaAsP supplied by Monsanto. These red LEDs were bright enough only for use as indicators, as the light output was not enough to illuminate an area. Readouts in calculators were so small that plastic lenses were built over each digit to make them legible. Later, other colors became widely available and appeared in appliances and equipment.


I think what your referring to is Electroluminescent lighting
  with
No. 1962 GE came out with the first visual LED in the form of red Diode.


LED's existed in the early 60's.....  Were they used?  Yeah, in government projects & laboratories...   

From the above cut & paste 
"Until 1968, visible and infrared LEDs were extremely costly, in the order of US$200 per unit"
To put that in perspective... In 1964 My dad as an E-5 in the USAF had a base pay of $160 per month....
Didn't know we were talkin bout cost. just when LED's were used. :huh:
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: Chryco Psycho on November 08, 2018, 09:10:47 PM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on November 08, 2018, 07:42:40 PM
Ha, ha: I'm an old guy but apparently I'm the only one that dims the dash lights on an E-body at night.
Not the only guy , I too dim the lights down so there is more light outside the car & the gauges while readable are less distracting , red lighting is actually better as well & it has less effect on night vision
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: blown motor on November 09, 2018, 05:55:52 AM
Quote from: Cudajason on November 08, 2018, 07:20:03 PM

Yeah funny how slow we are to adopt some technology...the 60s really!

Jason

Ya, but when bell bottom jeans came out we were on them in a heartbeat!  :rofl:
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: chargerdon on November 09, 2018, 06:41:36 AM
what is the part number of the led's you used for the light bar? 

Also, yes electroluminecent lighting was used in the 60's on several mopars.   I have a 66 Charger that uses it...  Its very cool...but, wish it was standard lighting.   When a gauge that isn't made anymore shorts out on the luminescence its very costly to repair (only 1 guy that i know does it and i think he charges $100 per gauge plus shipping) as opposed to replacing a light bulb.   
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: Cudajason on November 09, 2018, 09:14:46 AM
Quote from: chargerdon on November 09, 2018, 06:41:36 AM
what is the part number of the led's you used for the light bar? 

Also, yes electroluminecent lighting was used in the 60's on several mopars.   I have a 66 Charger that uses it...  Its very cool...but, wish it was standard lighting.   When a gauge that isn't made anymore shorts out on the luminescence its very costly to repair (only 1 guy that i know does it and i think he charges $100 per gauge plus shipping) as opposed to replacing a light bulb.   

I ordered these off of Amazon.

PESIC 10x BA9 BA9s 5-SMD 5050 White LED RV Car Tail Backup Corner Side Marker Light Bulbs

I will likely order others and add more LEDs through out the car.

Jason
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on November 09, 2018, 09:25:52 AM
FWIW I ordered/installed these a couple years ago.... 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018LUUON8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They are very bright but they work very well with the dimmer, very consistent/linear in their response to the dimmer...
Title: Re: I am a Be LED ver!
Post by: Jay Bee on November 09, 2018, 09:58:21 AM
Another "FWIW", I bought Herb's kit at the Nat's years ago and just put them in this summer. Huge difference too.

https://www.herbsparts.com/products.asp?cat=3