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Technical Shop => Engine, Transmission & Rear End => Topic started by: erik70rt on July 10, 2017, 06:47:03 AM

Title: 727 Kickdown Linkage for '70 Challenger 383
Post by: erik70rt on July 10, 2017, 06:47:03 AM
How can you tell if your car came with the 3 piece or the 1 piece linkage?  I don't have the build sheet, and a lot of parts were replaced during a previous restoration.  In the FSM, is lists both.
Title: Re: 727 Kickdown Linkage for '70 Challenger 383
Post by: Chryco Psycho on July 10, 2017, 07:00:05 AM
Do you have the original trans case , does it have a pivot pin on the left side , if it does 3 piece if not 1 piece
Title: Re: 727 Kickdown Linkage for '70 Challenger 383
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on July 10, 2017, 07:05:51 AM
70 used 3 piece.... 71 went to 1 piece... Both work, I prefer the three piece design, it gives a more positive action...
Title: Re: 727 Kickdown Linkage for '70 Challenger 383
Post by: anlauto on July 10, 2017, 07:21:58 AM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on July 10, 2017, 07:05:51 AM
70 used 3 piece.... 71 went to 1 piece... Both work, I prefer the three piece design, it gives a more positive action...

:iagree:
Title: Re: 727 Kickdown Linkage for '70 Challenger 383
Post by: erik70rt on July 10, 2017, 07:22:06 AM
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on July 10, 2017, 07:00:05 AM
Do you have the original trans case , does it have a pivot pin on the left side , if it does 3 piece if not 1 piece

I'll have to crawl under it and look.  The engine isn't original so I wouldn't be surprised if the trans isn't either.  It has the 1 piece on it now.
Title: Re: 727 Kickdown Linkage for '70 Challenger 383
Post by: erik70rt on July 11, 2017, 06:52:32 AM
Crawled under last night and the trans is not the original to the car, but does match the engine which I know is from a '70 C body.  It didn't have the pivot pin, but does have the mounting hole for the pin.

Thanks!
Title: Re: 727 Kickdown Linkage for '70 Challenger 383
Post by: erik70rt on July 12, 2017, 06:06:35 PM
I picked up a three piece and went to install it today.  Does every body style/engine combo use the same sized linkage?  When I went to install the lower rod to the trans kickdown lever, it loos like it's a few inches too long.  It's not even close to fitting.  What am I doing wrong here?
Title: Re: 727 Kickdown Linkage for '70 Challenger 383
Post by: Chryco Psycho on July 12, 2017, 06:08:46 PM
the distance from the pivot pin to the shift lever is the same on all auto trans , is the pivot lever on the right way around ?
Title: Re: 727 Kickdown Linkage for '70 Challenger 383
Post by: erik70rt on July 12, 2017, 07:33:10 PM
it only goes on one way, so I say yes.
Title: Re: 727 Kickdown Linkage for '70 Challenger 383
Post by: RUNCHARGER on July 12, 2017, 07:39:51 PM
I always thought the one piece hit the firewall in a B or E body.
Title: Re: 727 Kickdown Linkage for '70 Challenger 383
Post by: wannadrag on July 12, 2017, 07:47:05 PM
B body the one piece hits, E body it s works on as there is more room between the engine and firewall. I have a one piece in my 70 Challenger and it works fine.
Title: Re: 727 Kickdown Linkage for '70 Challenger 383
Post by: erik70rt on July 21, 2017, 05:33:50 AM
I got it installed last night.  I had the pivot arm mounted in the wrong place on the transmission.  DOH!