Does anyone sell the 74 sail panels for a Challenger? I looked on Herbs Vans and Roseville, the only ones I've found were black for 70/71 I should have ordered them last summer when I saw them . I don't see them anywhere unless I'm doing something wrong, I need white , and while on the subject, do they go under or on top of the head liner? My car came apart a long time ago and I don't remember there being any there ??
I don't believe your '74 came with sail panels, even if it did, you don't need them. They were underneath the headliner.
Thanks for the reply's, I didn't think there was any there when I removed the old head liner but like I said it was a long time ago, about 20 plus years, on cuda / challenger . Com , someone argued up and down that they were there enough to make me doubt myself. So I figured I would ask here , I am trying to get it done in time to drive it to Carlisle this summer but life is kicking me all the way around it seems, I have most parts to finish but no time to work on it :bricks:
Quote from: 74 rallye on March 10, 2018, 07:58:54 PM
I have most parts to finish but no time to work on it :bricks:
Thats the never ending story for all of us. I just try to get something done every day even though that can be tough. Keep at it, you will get there. :bradsthumb:
They aren't needed with the Yorkshire headliner. If you are using the old perforated style, you might need them. Ask someone with a 70-71 and see if they are required. Maybe doing away with them has nothing to do with headliner material. Maybe the factory just figured out it was a waist of money.
Ian in the middle of installing the head liner, I have perforated one from legendary, the original was a kind of cloth , not sure of what it was called but was very badly deteriorated . I'm hoping to finish up the installation when it warms up a little, within the next couple of weeks, I didn't know if this was something I could make vs. buy if I couldn't find them if needed
The original headliner material is called Yorkshire. It's available from a couple different places. I got mine from Dante's Parts. Not cheap but it installs way easier then the perforated style. It's virtually impossible to get wrinkles in it.
I used the perforated type in my '73 because i prefer it. You don't need sail panels for it.
My 74 Challenger didn't have them and we put a perforated Legendary headliner back in as that's what it had originally. Just my :alan2cents:
Thanks for the reply's , the headliner is hanging on the bows now but I think I have to do some trimming to get it stretched out , any advice on where to start when I go to complete the job?
Here's some pics to show where I'm at with the installation
Try this.....https://forum.e-bodies.org/cuda-and-challenger-general-discussion-roseville-moparts/2/lets-talk-headliner/2226/
And also check this out....http://www.restorick.com/tech/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5
I hired someone as some jobs are not meant for novice like me.
Thanks, lots of good advice and ideas there, now for my next question, how many of these little guys are there supposed to be per side? I don't know what happened to the ones that came off the car years back
Only 2 per side on mine. The side window trim holds the headliner as well. Those clips only need to hold it until the side trim is installed.
For anyone who stumbles across this thread, know this, Burdar is one heck of a guy. Very helpful and knowledgeable. :wave:
Some jobs are better left to professionals, :alan2cents: but here's a tip:
Once you remove your rear view mirror, sunvisors, shoulder belt clips, shoulder belts, coat hooks, etc.....replace all the screws/bolts into their holes but don't tighten. After the headline is all nice and tight and glued in place, you can feel around for the screws, poke the screwdriver through and remove the screws.....now you know where the parts go :alan2cents:
Quote from: 74 rallye on March 12, 2018, 05:41:51 PM
Thanks, lots of good advice and ideas there, now for my next question, how many of these little guys are there supposed to be per side? I don't know what happened to the ones that came off the car years back
Needed extra & picked up something similar at the Ace Hardware http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1292722
Thanks again for all the replies! I will look into the clips hopefully I will get to work on it soon
The way you have it bunched up across the car is the way it will be before you cut the 'loops' where the listing wire goes. You will need to cut them back to allow for a wrinkle free installation. Once cut back, you will be able to stretch the fabric across the car. The clips you posted a pic of (two per side)will hold the fabric side to side, while you then stretch it front to back. Once you work it a wrinkle free as possible a hair dryer will remove the remaining wrinkles.
Thanks, if I can swing the time this weekend I will try it out, pictures to follow