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Title: How to ruin a battery quick
Post by: 73440 on July 10, 2018, 07:20:13 PM
Installed new battery in the Harley, rode about 8 miles then engine starts sputtering and feel heat on my leg.
Look down and the battery is on fire , stop and use my hand and shirt to put out the fire .
Neighbor lends garden hose to insulate the bare ground cable .
I figure the bare negative cable was touching the battery hold down strap.
Guess time to use an insulated negative cable .
And then I stumble and knock the headlights and bezels and trim, I caught the grill ,  that are in the grill on the hood onto the concrete floor , ugh . All good , no damage !
Title: Re: How to ruin a battery quick
Post by: Cuda Cody on July 10, 2018, 07:26:55 PM
That sucks!   :headbang:
Title: Re: How to ruin a battery quick
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on July 10, 2018, 07:31:35 PM
Sounds like a bad day... Sucks...

That bare ground cable can lay on the battery hold down with no effect... It bolts to the frame of the bike... The frame & all metal parts that aren't isolated from it are equal to the ground voltage....  The positive cable grounding out would be a problem but I think your charging system has gone full charge & melted you battery.....
Title: Re: How to ruin a battery quick
Post by: 71-440 on July 10, 2018, 07:31:42 PM
Ouch!

Sounds like something that would happen to me....
Title: Re: How to ruin a battery quick
Post by: 73440 on July 10, 2018, 07:55:26 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on July 10, 2018, 07:31:35 PM
Sounds like a bad day... Sucks...

That bare ground cable can lay on the battery hold down with no effect... It bolts to the frame of the bike... The frame & all metal parts that aren't isolated from it are equal to the ground voltage....  The positive cable grounding out would be a problem but I think your charging system has gone full charge & melted you battery.....

Now you have me thinking, never had a problem with the bare negative cable touching the strap, .
when installing the battery today , I did spark a couple times when the wrench tighten on the positive cable touched metal , maybe that did something.
Thanks @1 WildR/T
Title: Re: How to ruin a battery quick
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on July 10, 2018, 08:00:30 PM
Looks like a fairly vintage bike?  Is that an old school voltage regulator below & behind the battery?   If so pull the cover off & see if the points might have welded themselves closed......
Title: Re: How to ruin a battery quick
Post by: 73440 on July 10, 2018, 08:08:01 PM
Yes, 1973, generator with Bosxh mechanical regulator, yes the ground wire from the battery to the VR was completely burnt away, .
I will open the VR .
Title: Re: How to ruin a battery quick
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on July 10, 2018, 08:14:29 PM
Sounds like a good plan... :cheers:
Title: Re: How to ruin a battery quick
Post by: 73440 on July 10, 2018, 08:20:50 PM
Both sets of points are free.
Although the top set do not have much clearance.
I have been wanting to change to alternator and electronic regulator , be a good time to do now.
Thanks for the info,I was thinking completely in the opposite direction.

Title: Re: How to ruin a battery quick
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on July 10, 2018, 08:33:57 PM
Probably a good plan though honestly it looks like your generator was able to push enough current to melt the battery so maybe just getting a electronic regulator & fix the wiring and see how it works....
Title: Re: How to ruin a battery quick
Post by: BIGSHCLUNK on July 10, 2018, 09:01:33 PM
We had a similar experience with a battery in my skid steer once..... not good.  :bricks:
Title: Re: How to ruin a battery quick
Post by: 73440 on July 11, 2018, 04:10:30 AM
I wish I had checked the voltage after starting the bike , should have flashed the generator VR also.
The headlight and tailights were a lot brighter than normal.