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Title: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: cuda hunter on May 01, 2021, 09:07:00 PM
Does a cuda fit inside of a 7' wide by 18' long trailer?

I know they are about 16' long but I need to know if 7' is too thin for towing one. 

The trailer I'm looking at has a drivers side large door for getting out of the car when in the trailer.

Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: crackedback on May 01, 2021, 09:38:57 PM
you'll have roughly 4" on each side.

Car is ~75" wide in an 84" space.
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: cuda hunter on May 02, 2021, 05:31:49 AM
That's why everyone runs 8.5 wide trailers I suspect. 

Thanks for the measurements.
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: JH27N0B on May 02, 2021, 05:51:12 AM
E bodies are tough getting out of when inside trailers.  I have a friend who transports cars often and he talks negatively about "fat E bodies".  :angry:
I want to get a trailer soon, and I'd prefer one of those trailers where a big section of the left side pivots up and the inner fender removes to make getting in and out of the car a breeze ($$ though), or maybe I'll just get a winch and use that to get the car in and out of a conventional enclosed.
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: RUNCHARGER on May 02, 2021, 06:31:34 AM
I winch them in but you still have to get to the front to tie the front wheels properly.
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: JH27N0B on May 02, 2021, 06:53:43 AM
That's a different door though, a door towards the right side front of the trailer to get in to access the front of the car, or any gear or tools you have stored in the nose of the trailer.
Not to hijack the OPs thread, but do any left side trailer doors really help much in getting in and out of a trailer?
I've gotten out of my car after pulling it into an enclosed, and it's not easy!  I'm not overweight but as a middle aged guy it would help to be a little bit of a contortionist to do it!
That style with the left side section that pivots up looks doable, but otherwise I don't think even with a side door, you can open the car door over 10-12" max.  My friend I mentioned who transports actually climbs out through the window and puts his left foot down on the trailer inner fender to get out.
Now that I have a truck I'm planning to get a trailer soon, and think a winch will be the only way to go.
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: anlauto on May 02, 2021, 08:19:35 AM
I think 18' is pretty tight, nothing is more of a pain in the butt then crawling under the front of the car to tie it down...unless maybe if it was a V nose with a door right on the front V  :thinking:
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: GrandpaKevin on May 02, 2021, 05:41:54 PM
I love the escape door on my trailer, wouldn't have one without it.

The trailer is 22' and the Challenger is pretty tight, not much room in the front but the shorter trailer fits perfectly where I store it.

If you plan to haul a car plus tools, equipment, ATV etc. you might want to go at least 24'

I have wood planks on the floor in front of the trailer to raise the car high enough to open the car door.

Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: cuda hunter on May 03, 2021, 08:14:32 AM
Quote from: GrandpaKevin on May 02, 2021, 05:41:54 PM
I love the escape door on my trailer, wouldn't have one without it.

The trailer is 22' and the Challenger is pretty tight, not much room in the front but the shorter trailer fits perfectly where I store it.

If you plan to haul a car plus tools, equipment, ATV etc. you might want to go at least 24'

I have wood planks on the floor in front of the trailer to raise the car high enough to open the car door.

Good idea with the wood planks. 
Mostly I'm looking for a cheaper square body trailer just to get this car to carlisle this year and back.  I'm sure I'll be looking for the right trailer for some time. 
Not planning on having a bunch of tools in the trailer but I'll consider a 22 or24 if one pops up for the right price. 
   I am a bargain hunter of course but it appears that enclosed trailers have also all gone to Texas and Florida.  Usually i can find an enclosed pretty easy but they are all gone. 
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: Brads70 on May 03, 2021, 03:46:34 PM
Who are you kidding Josh! With all the treasures you'll find at Carlisle go bigger!  :Stirring: :haha: :cheers:
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: 7E-Bodies on May 03, 2021, 04:38:29 PM
I wish someone would rent these. I can't quite justify buying one (yet) for as often as I'd actually need one.
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: JH27N0B on May 03, 2021, 04:47:35 PM
There are places that rent enclosed trailers.  You have to search to see if the nearest place that does is 10 miles away from you or 100 though!
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: 70 Top Banana on May 03, 2021, 06:29:02 PM
My 24 foot enclosed trailer was a Continental. It was 8.5 wide and it was tight with an ebody. It did not have a left hand door and I had to crawl out the window without chipping or scratching anything. I quit that and used the winch that was mounted inside the trailer. Had a remote control and it worked great. I could run the cable all the way outside, hook the car, leave in neutral, steer it a little to square up in the trailer door and boom, done. Strap it down and go.
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: Bossgold on November 30, 2021, 06:52:10 AM
Quote from: 7E-Bodies on May 03, 2021, 04:38:29 PM
I wish someone would rent these. I can't quite justify buying one (yet) for as often as I'd actually need one.

Be careful what you wish for. I just rented one and the axle Bearing burned up outside of Odessa TX. The parts are tough to get. I'm waiting on a new axle from Lippert Components. There are Dexter and Lippert axle 'equalizer' trailers and when the bearings fail often it will require replacing an axle. So if you rent a Enclosed trailer have a qualified trailer place inspect/repack the wheels or do it yourself before you leave. The rental place showed me their maintenance check list.....didn't help on the I-20 in the middle of no where. I'll buy my own trailer now, keep extra parts ( buy an extra axle and hang it securely on the wall), grease and tools (ramp for lifting trailer wheels), chains and straps (lifting/secure axle when wheel fails) and a floor jack for sure.  What was amazing to me was how in this covid world so few shops had the time to help a stranded motorist. Your on your own - and your beloved car will need to be safe.
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: cuda hunter on November 30, 2021, 07:23:44 AM
Wow.  That sounds like a terrible trip.  I had not thought about carrying an extra axle with me.
I have extra bearings I carry, but not an axle.

I did get a flat in Pennsylvania and didn't have a tire lock for the rim so I couldn't get the rim off. It took me forever to find someone to help.  Everyone I called said 5 hours or more possibly the next day.  While I sat on the side of a road.  Got lucky on that one as a shop was just around the bend and they helped me. But finding help was a bleak process. 

Hope you found everything you needed and your not still sitting on the side of the road with a rental trailer.
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: Bossgold on November 30, 2021, 07:47:37 AM
Quote from: cuda hunter on November 30, 2021, 07:23:44 AM
Wow.  That sounds like a terrible trip.  I had not thought about carrying an extra axle with me.
I have extra bearings I carry, but not an axle.

I did get a flat in Pennsylvania and didn't have a tire lock for the rim so I couldn't get the rim off. It took me forever to find someone to help.  Everyone I called said 5 hours or more possibly the next day.  While I sat on the side of a road.  Got lucky on that one as a shop was just around the bend and they helped me. But finding help was a bleak process. 

Hope you found everything you needed and your not still sitting on the side of the road with a rental trailer.

Yes, many places won't touch it if the axle got red hot because they don't want the liability. Most trailer repair will just replace the whole axle - brakes and all -  cause its easier....no welding. the axle was $ 495 plus shipping from Lippert. The Look dealer in McGregor TX had one in stock for $ 795.....hmmmm covid?  BTW, 20 foot trailer X 8.5 feet with 6 wheel lug minimum 10, 000 LB GVWR is the way to go. It was perfect size and not to big because you have to think about where you'll park this thing at night as well as gas station geography...etc.  This trailer was 7,000 lb (5 lug wheels) and its a stretch cause the car weights 3,500 and the trailer is 3,500. 10, 000 lb and up right now is hard to find because of the supply chain but when you load it up it will be much safer. The Trailer VIN had the mapping to the Serial number of the Lippert Axle and they use that to make sure I got all the right/correct parts. Also, make sure your trailer has an open/truss frame. Reason is the PACE trailer I was using had a solid frame and nothing to attach the bad axle too. THis would have been easy to just chain up the tandem axle bad wheel to the frame(hence the floor jack low enough) and drive slowly on 3 wheels to a more populated area.....but the damn trailer didn't have anything to strap/chain too. This is why you buy.....so you do the right maintenance, have the right parts on hand( Trailer VIN and Axle Serial number) and don't need a crash course lesson on how to get rolling again.
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: Bossgold on November 30, 2021, 07:54:40 AM
Quote from: cuda hunter on November 30, 2021, 07:23:44 AM
Wow.  That sounds like a terrible trip.  I had not thought about carrying an extra axle with me.
I have extra bearings I carry, but not an axle.

I did get a flat in Pennsylvania and didn't have a tire lock for the rim so I couldn't get the rim off. It took me forever to find someone to help.  Everyone I called said 5 hours or more possibly the next day.  While I sat on the side of a road.  Got lucky on that one as a shop was just around the bend and they helped me. But finding help was a bleak process. 

Hope you found everything you needed and your not still sitting on the side of the road with a rental trailer.

And no, there was nothing in stock locally so I am in a hotel in Big Spring TX waiting on a new axle/install from the Lippert Dealer. Good news was Gary at the 'The Trailer Guys West' Big Spring Texas stepped up Monday after I broke down Sunday morning at 8 AM. Most places said they were to busy to look at the trailer. Parts are coming while I wait or go and get a Uhaul open trailer for now. A lesson in today's Humanity in the USA!
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: cuda hunter on November 30, 2021, 08:00:16 AM
I'm assuming the rental company is paying for the axle replacement.  I would hope so. 

Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: rftroy on November 30, 2021, 08:13:55 AM
Also, that 7 foot wide trailer has two wheel wells protruding into the enclosure. I haven't measured mine, but they appear to be around 8 inches each.
The stock track of a 70 barracuda is about 70 inches, and that's wheel center to center. Add about 9 inches to get outside to outside of tire sidewall, and you'll be close to line to line, or interfering with the wheel wells.

Robert
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: Bossgold on November 30, 2021, 10:33:12 AM
Quote from: cuda hunter on November 30, 2021, 08:00:16 AM
I'm assuming the rental company is paying for the axle replacement.  I would hope so.

I don't know and don't care. I learned the hard way this car is my baby.....I'll do what it takes to make sure its gets to where I'm going and back home safely. The reason I rented an enclosed was because I only used an open trailer on short trips....and did not want to have the car sitting in hotel parking lots at night since I was going to Arkansas. I will never do this again! Its insurance and to me my car is priceless....don't do what I did and have to wait on other people's urgency to fix the problem. Right now Hotel parking lots are cheap(broken enclosed trailer) compared to having an open broken down trailer with my car sitting exposed. I have learned a valuable lesson....trust me!
Title: Re: Enclosed trailer question
Post by: TGGodfrey on November 30, 2021, 01:43:38 PM
I agree with BossGold.....Buy your own.  you are relying on people who see a money ticket with renting trailers.  Most don't actually do a lot of trailering so the maint is often overlooked.

I bought mine when all the elkhart welders quit building trailers and moved over to the camper industry in 2018 (higher paid welding).  Because of that, i was not able to order one the way I wanted it yet I still got a 24' Cargomate with 10400 lb axle pair.  The price of a 22 to a 24 was a matter of 200.00.  I went 24' and so happy I did.  My Bee is 17.5 feet long and its nice to be able to lay down comfortably as I strap it down. I added a large winch with cordless control for loading......So easy and nice.  I installed an Onboard Deep Cycle on the tongue to power that.  Battery also gives me the ability to use the interior lights when not hooked to the truck.  I epoxy coated the floor with garage floor paint..... its been 2 years and it holds up awesome.  Mop and go floor!

The only option I wanted was the escape hatch on the drivers side.....that is a 1000.00 option and frankly if I ever want it....... I'll build one and cut it into the frame.  Advantages of being a welder.  With the winch...... I have not needed one.

Look up RV dehumidifiers sold through home depot.  They are powerless and I am told they make all the difference inside.  I get moisture in mine so when i leave a car in there for weeks i will notice signs of moisture on the alum.  You will soon find your new trailer becomes a hobby in its own!

T.