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Title: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: Marc1 on November 08, 2019, 06:11:34 PM
Hi,

I am looking at a 71 'Cuda. It has the Shaker hood but the fender tag does not show N96. I am not sure if the vehicle has a broadcast sheet yet (it is early in my research). Are there any examples of factory Shaker cars that do not have the N96 code on their tag? I am pretty sure the tags are not repops and the car looks quite original. It has power steering and that code is also not on the tag but as I understand that is normal. One other question, the tag shows A34 is that definitely Super Track Pack for 1971? The notes around the Internet say 69-70 on that A34 code. This is a V car if that matters. Thanks in advance.

Marc
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2019, 06:55:38 PM
No N96 on the tag = No shaker hood from the factory. :alan2cents:
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: Chryco Psycho on November 08, 2019, 07:51:55 PM
Welcome to the site from Panama Marc :wave:
It could have been dealer installed but unlikely , why not just order the N96
A34 would be super Track pack 4.10 ratio , I assume it is a 4 spd car
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: nsmall on November 08, 2019, 08:11:20 PM
Welcome to the site!!!!

Make sure to have a big piggy bank as they aint giving 71's away.  People are asking a fortune for rough 71 projects. 
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: JS29 on November 09, 2019, 04:28:48 AM
 :welcome: From central New York! Let;s hear more about your car.  :handshake:
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: Marc1 on November 09, 2019, 10:08:12 AM
Hi,

Thanks very much for the responses. I suspected no N96 means no Shaker. I will investigate further and see if there is any explanation for the change (dealer when new... done at restoration time, etc.). It is not something I would do on a rare car like this (alter the factory built options) but I know it happens and no slight intended to those who do it, I just wouldn't.

This is an automatic car I am looking at. My 3 pedal days are over (age, sore joints etc.). My last car had a fairly light pedal nothing crazy but still after 30 minutes in stop and go traffic I wanted to go home. Most of the muscle cars I have owned were 4 speeds but any new acquisitions will have to be automatic and I am fine with that.

I know 71's are expensive but they are my favorite. I wouldn't turn down a 70 but I am trying to stay focused on a 71. I have a reasonable war chest start from the last car I sold so we will see what happens.

Thanks,

Marc
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: cudaized on November 09, 2019, 10:39:16 AM
Marc,

If you get a chance, post some pictures of the underside of the hood.
A few items to look for:
If it has the crumple zones
If it has three holes for the Plymouth emblem on the front, drivers corner
If it has the three holes for the Plymouth emblem, does the hood have three larger diameter holes (only on the bottom sheet metal layer) where the emblem posts would get fastened by nuts.

Might be a factory built hood. There are several other items to look for. These are just a few. And only some specific hood traits. Several more items included in the N96 package.

Could be dealer installed. Could be post new car owner installed.

Ola
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: RzeroB on November 09, 2019, 11:15:29 AM
In all likely hood the Shaker hood was added at some point as a matter of personal preference. It's a popular modification as there are a LOT more Shaker cars around now than ever left the factory!

A34 Super Track Pack Axle Package with an automatic? Normally the automatic would be coded A32 Super Performance Axle Package ... which is essentially the exact same thing. From my observations it is not uncommon to find A34 instead of A32 on an automatic car's fender tag ... there's a fair amount of them out there that I have seen that way.
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: 6bblgt on November 09, 2019, 10:11:43 PM
for '71 all 4.10 DANA axle package cars are A34

most likely added during a more recent restoration VS. "back-in-the-day" (a few underside pics and it could be determined whether it's an original hood VS. a converted "flat" hood  :takealook:
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: CudaMoparRay on November 10, 2019, 03:25:02 PM
Big  :welcome: from Riverside, CA
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: nsmall on November 10, 2019, 10:55:56 PM
@Marc1 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/marc1_5533)

https://forum.e-bodies.org/cars-for-sale-or-wanted/8/1971-cuda-fc7-plum-crazy-340-roller/13642/msg184435#new

I dont know anything about this car.  Just thought I would share
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: chris NOS on November 15, 2019, 12:31:27 PM
There is  a super nice v code for sale in quebec by john scotty , they added the shaker hood on it even if it was not a N96 originaly ,  all lot off people prefer the shaker even if it's an add on during restoration.
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: cuda hunter on November 15, 2019, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: Marc1 on November 09, 2019, 10:08:12 AM
Hi,

Thanks very much for the responses. I suspected no N96 means no Shaker. I will investigate further and see if there is any explanation for the change (dealer when new... done at restoration time, etc.). It is not something I would do on a rare car like this (alter the factory built options) but I know it happens and no slight intended to those who do it, I just wouldn't.

This is an automatic car I am looking at. My 3 pedal days are over (age, sore joints etc.). My last car had a fairly light pedal nothing crazy but still after 30 minutes in stop and go traffic I wanted to go home. Most of the muscle cars I have owned were 4 speeds but any new acquisitions will have to be automatic and I am fine with that.

I know 71's are expensive but they are my favorite. I wouldn't turn down a 70 but I am trying to stay focused on a 71. I have a reasonable war chest start from the last car I sold so we will see what happens.

Thanks,

Marc

Got any pics of the car?  How about a pic of the fender tag since we are trying to piece together your questions. 
sounds like a sweet ride! 
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: anlauto on November 15, 2019, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: chris NOS on November 15, 2019, 12:31:27 PM
There is  a super nice v code for sale in quebec by john scotty , they added the shaker hood on it even if it was not a N96 originaly ,  all lot off people prefer the shaker even if it's an add on during restoration.

I think John asking $260K CDN for his 1971 V Code is quite optimistic in today's market. :alan2cents:
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: Marc1 on November 15, 2019, 02:46:28 PM
Quote from: chris NOS on November 15, 2019, 12:31:27 PM
There is  a super nice v code for sale in quebec by john scotty , they added the shaker hood on it even if it was not a N96 originaly ,  all lot off people prefer the shaker even if it's an add on during restoration.

That was, in fact, the very car I was looking at.
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: Marc1 on November 15, 2019, 02:48:42 PM
Quote from: cuda hunter on November 15, 2019, 01:57:48 PM

Got any pics of the car?  How about a pic of the fender tag since we are trying to piece together your questions. 
sounds like a sweet ride!

The fender tags are about 3/4 through the slides.

https://www.johnscotti.com/en/used-vehicle/plymouth-cuda-1971-for-sale-pc1375c/
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: cuda hunter on November 15, 2019, 02:48:43 PM
Quote from: Marc1 on November 15, 2019, 02:46:28 PM
Quote from: chris NOS on November 15, 2019, 12:31:27 PM
There is  a super nice v code for sale in quebec by john scotty , they added the shaker hood on it even if it was not a N96 originaly ,  all lot off people prefer the shaker even if it's an add on during restoration.

That was, in fact, the very car I was looking at.
Quote from: chris NOS on November 15, 2019, 12:31:27 PM
There is  a super nice v code for sale in quebec by john scotty , they added the shaker hood on it even if it was not a N96 originaly ,  all lot off people prefer the shaker even if it's an add on during restoration.

Is there a link somewhere? 
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: anlauto on November 15, 2019, 03:15:53 PM
It's a nice car, but a little pricey  :alan2cents:
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: cuda hunter on November 15, 2019, 03:34:48 PM
Quote from: Marc1 on November 15, 2019, 02:48:42 PM
Quote from: cuda hunter on November 15, 2019, 01:57:48 PM

Got any pics of the car?  How about a pic of the fender tag since we are trying to piece together your questions. 
sounds like a sweet ride!

The fender tags are about 3/4 through the slides.

https://www.johnscotti.com/en/used-vehicle/plymouth-cuda-1971-for-sale-pc1375c/

Man!  Your on it.  posted one second before I asked. 
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: chris NOS on December 10, 2019, 01:13:33 PM
A friend of mine restored this car, craftsman work is top quality and if i remember well there is 2 broadcast sheet. but i think price has to go down to be in today's market range ...
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: anlauto on December 10, 2019, 01:19:32 PM
It's a very attractive car... :drooling:
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: chris NOS on December 10, 2019, 01:27:49 PM
yes ! he always talked about this car being one of the best he ever had, he restored a lot of Mopars in the last 30 years;)
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: Marc1 on December 10, 2019, 02:02:14 PM
Quote from: chris NOS on December 10, 2019, 01:13:33 PM
A friend of mine restored this car, craftsman work is top quality and if i remember well there is 2 broadcast sheet. but i think price has to go down to be in today's market range ...

Hi, do you happen to know what happened to the original hood and underhood / air cleaner parts? I love this car but the non-factory option addition is a deal breaker for me and why I dropped the car. I wouldn't be fond of trying to color match the correct original hood but I might think about that. 
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: chris NOS on January 03, 2020, 05:35:57 AM
it suppose to be with the car to put it back to original configuration if desired.
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: Marc1 on February 12, 2020, 01:13:53 PM
Quote from: chris NOS on January 03, 2020, 05:35:57 AM
it suppose to be with the car to put it back to original configuration if desired.

Ok, good to know thanks!
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: Matt M on February 12, 2020, 05:56:30 PM
Any opinions on the Fender Tags?
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: cuda hunter on February 13, 2020, 08:41:09 AM
 :rebelflag"   :drooling: :drooling: :drooling:
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: RzeroB on February 13, 2020, 03:06:44 PM
Wasn't this car part of that amazing "3 for 1" Cuda package that was for sale a few years ago?? Guy had a Bahama-Yellow 440-6 '71 Cuda along with a numbers matching Tor-Red '70 HemiCuda and a non-numbers matching Sassy-Grass-Green '70 HemiCuda which he wanted to fund his retirement by selling all three together as a "package deal". 
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: Yellow71Cuda on February 13, 2020, 05:45:00 PM
Quote from: chris NOS on December 10, 2019, 01:13:33 PM
A friend of mine restored this car, craftsman work is top quality and if i remember well there is 2 broadcast sheet. but i think price has to go down to be in today's market range ...

Beautiful car, no doubt, and maybe I'm being too picky...but for that kind of money, why is the (factory) rocker black-out paint not there?  :rubeyes:   I'm sorry, but to me that's not a small detail.  And the shiny bare metal trunk hinge bolts and upper latch, hood pin bracket bolts, and hood hinge & latch bolts...the absence of black-out behind the grille...
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: EV2RTSE on February 14, 2020, 07:24:29 AM
Quote from: RzeroB on February 13, 2020, 03:06:44 PM
Wasn't this car part of that amazing "3 for 1" Cuda package that was for sale a few years ago?? Guy had a Bahama-Yellow 440-6 '71 Cuda along with a numbers matching Tor-Red '70 HemiCuda and a non-numbers matching Sassy-Grass-Green '70 HemiCuda which he wanted to fund his retirement by selling all three together as a "package deal".

Looks like it. I remember a thread on moparts when that ad first came up but I forget what all was discussed. Probably dropped off the board by now because it was in the ebay / WIW section, IIRC. If you punch this car's VIN in google and click on 'images' there are still some pics floating around from that ad. An FJ6 Hemicuda? That's gotta be a really rare car.

Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: Marc1 on February 14, 2020, 04:15:47 PM
Quote from: RzeroB on February 13, 2020, 03:06:44 PM
Wasn't this car part of that amazing "3 for 1" Cuda package that was for sale a few years ago?? Guy had a Bahama-Yellow 440-6 '71 Cuda along with a numbers matching Tor-Red '70 HemiCuda and a non-numbers matching Sassy-Grass-Green '70 HemiCuda which he wanted to fund his retirement by selling all three together as a "package deal".

The same dealer (John Scotti) currently has a 1970 Tor-Red Hemi Cuda for sale as well. Not sure if it is the same one but maybe he bought 2 of the 3? 
Title: Re: 71 'Cuda Shaker Hood - N96
Post by: chris NOS on February 16, 2020, 04:47:15 AM
same owner , same cars , you are right .

Quote from: Yellow71Cuda on February 13, 2020, 05:45:00 PM
Quote from: chris NOS on December 10, 2019, 01:13:33 PM
A friend of mine restored this car, craftsman work is top quality and if i remember well there is 2 broadcast sheet. but i think price has to go down to be in today's market range ...

Beautiful car, no doubt, and maybe I'm being too picky...but for that kind of money, why is the (factory) rocker black-out paint not there?  :rubeyes:   I'm sorry, but to me that's not a small detail.  And the shiny bare metal trunk hinge bolts and upper latch, hood pin bracket bolts, and hood hinge & latch bolts...the absence of black-out behind the grille...

Thank you for those details , i m desapointed that he didn't do it "factory correct " .