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Technical Shop => Engine, Transmission & Rear End => Topic started by: b5cuda on June 27, 2020, 06:25:06 AM

Title: 833 trans, big block to small block
Post by: b5cuda on June 27, 2020, 06:25:06 AM
Hi all, I have an 833 trans (1971 date) with the 4.8" input bearing retainer which I believe is typically used with big block bell housing.  Just wondering whether I can rebuild this trans with the smaller bearing and retainer so it fits my small block bell - or would I need to resize the small block bell housing to fit this larger bearing and retainer?
Title: Re: 833 trans, big block to small block
Post by: anlauto on June 27, 2020, 06:41:44 AM
If you're referring to a 23 spline transmission, your big block and small block use the same size bearing retainer and can interchange with no problem.
Title: Re: 833 trans, big block to small block
Post by: b5cuda on June 27, 2020, 06:48:54 AM
Thanks Alan, appreciate the reply.  Yes it's 23 spline and has the 4.8" input bearing retainer.  Since it needs a rebuild anyway I was hoping I could swap in a 4.3" input bearing and retainer so it would bolt right up to my small block bell housing.
Title: Re: 833 trans, big block to small block
Post by: Chryco Psycho on June 27, 2020, 08:41:26 PM
The smaller 4.35 brg retainer also uses the smaller 307 brg so it will not bolt onto the front where the 4.80 retainer is now , & cutting the retainer down to that size will cut 2/3 way throung the bolts holding the retainer on so you only choice is to use a different bell or have yours machined out .
Title: Re: 833 trans, big block to small block
Post by: b5cuda on June 28, 2020, 03:27:36 AM
Thanks CP, as always - appreciate the help!
Title: Re: 833 trans, big block to small block
Post by: Fastmark on June 28, 2020, 03:51:58 AM
Since you are going to rebuild it anyway, I'd  just find a small bearing retainer case and rebuild it instead. All small blocks and 69 down 383 had the smaller bearing. You could sell the case now or swap it.
Title: Re: 833 trans, big block to small block
Post by: b5cuda on June 28, 2020, 04:10:44 AM
Thanks for the tip, I've wondered about that.  This isn't a numbers matching case for me and I'm not sure how many 1971 big-block 23-spline 4-speed trannys are out there.