We all know that buying a Cuda or Challenger can be a super exciting time. Some of the best memories I have are of tracking down and purchasing rare E-Bodies. The searching, hunting, decoding and learning about all the rare and cool options is all part of the fun of owning a mopar muscle car. While there might be reproduction VIN tags out there that are done legally, it's best to know what you are looking at before you buy it. Recently
@MMC Detroit (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mmc-detroit_238) on his facebook site shared some great photos of VIN tags in hopes to help educate the public. MMC Detroit (David Wise) is a fantastic resource and offers a tremendous amount of help and guidance to new buyers. Check out his website and these photos he shared:
http://www.mmcdetroit.com/
Here's his facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/MMC-Detroit-137411623090816
I remember once some years ago a buddy of mine had a line on a small quantity of rosette style rivets. Hhmmmm what could you do with that....
Can someone break down what the differences are, and what to look for? I even have my glasses on and some I see but others I don't. :rubeyes:
The only difference I see is that the "non-original" one looks like it was stamped with newer dies that had less wear on them and stamped harder. I guess Chrysler at the time never change their die stamps :dunno:
Cool , Thanks Cody
Excellent close up pictures...I think the type of metal used in the non-original might be different too :takepicture:
You can tell the difference between them easily. Look at the repo (fat letters ) Original ( thin letters ). My original is not pretty. I guess I'll repaint it , put a new logo on it and let it go.
Font isn't even the same.... Compare the B's, the S's, the 3's.... ok everything..
Good stuff Cody, I always shake my head when I see cars with obvious reattached vin tags, wrong rivets, etc.
Thanks Cody - great info
I have a few correct rivets from years and years ago.
My LA built car has the tag held down with stainless rivets like the 1967 cars. I have a very close attention to detail I'll I don't think anyone could say this tag was ever removed. Trust me I've gone over this for hours in the garage with both sides of the dash 3 inches from my nose. I don't have Facebook but I'd like Davids take on this.
That font is really bad. I have no problem with an original tag that has been painted over.
Quote from: king dragon on April 17, 2018, 06:46:15 PM
My LA built car has the tag held down with stainless rivets like the 1967 cars. I have a very close attention to detail I'll I don't think anyone could say this tag was ever removed. Trust me I've gone over this for hours in the garage with both sides of the dash 3 inches from my nose. I don't have Facebook but I'd like Davids take on this.
Those look original but they are not stainless. Just rivets with the paint flaked off
I have some OE rivets if anyone needs them.
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on April 17, 2018, 07:10:30 PM
That font is really bad. I have no problem with an original tag that has been painted over.
I think the font is a good match, it's just thicker because of new dies and stamped harder :alan2cents:
These are glaringly obvious. Other signs besides the pathetic attempt at rivets is the metal and the shape of the plate itself.
http://www.ecsautomotive.com/productdesc.php?co=c&id=62
The most expensive rivets you can buy!!!
:rofl:
Quote from: HP_Cuda on June 24, 2019, 10:10:23 PM
The most expensive rivets you can buy!!!
:rofl:
The real Rosette rivets were $22 back in 95 when I restored my Vert...
Yes: I have a few sets somewhere that I'll never use. Maybe they'll go up in another 10 years.