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Title: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Chryco Psycho on November 24, 2021, 07:01:44 PM
This just showed up in my email .
Looks like a great option for better lights that fit our E bodies  :bigthumb:
https://www.holley.com/brands/holley_retrobright/products/exterior/lighting/headlight/round_headlights/
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Racer57 on November 24, 2021, 07:05:00 PM
What do you have to do to be able to plug them in ?
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: MKA on November 24, 2021, 07:34:44 PM
These are expensive, but cheaper than the Holley, assuming their prices are for one bulb. 

https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/5-75-inch/vc5000-ultimate-5-75-inch-kit/

I haven't tried them but looking.  This particular set comes with 3 bulb colors.  20 percent off on Friday
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: 70vert on November 25, 2021, 09:45:58 AM
The Holley site says "Plug & Play - Plugs into factory headlight harness for easy installation". but then they also sell a harness and adapter separately.  :dunno:

The other key is how much room there is in the bucket, they look deeper. I sure like the color option, I'd go modern white for mine but know others would want the retro white.

Quote from: Racer57 on November 24, 2021, 07:05:00 PM
What do you have to do to be able to plug them in ?
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: 70vert on November 25, 2021, 09:54:44 AM
Quote from: MKA on November 24, 2021, 07:34:44 PM
These are expensive, but cheaper than the Holley, assuming their prices are for one bulb. 

https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/5-75-inch/vc5000-ultimate-5-75-inch-kit/

I haven't tried them but looking.  This particular set comes with 3 bulb colors.  20 percent off on Friday

Yes the Holley is $179 for One light vs these that come in pairs so about the same depending on which you get. The Holley's look "sealed", not sure if the bulb itself is replaceable.
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: 7212Mopar on November 25, 2021, 10:53:42 AM
It said bulb removal requires Torx bit. So it must be replaceable but does not say what and where to get replacement. I did this with EBay glass housing and aftermarket LED bulbs low beam, halogen high beam that likely not use for far cheaper.
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Chryco Psycho on November 25, 2021, 08:46:25 PM
The pigtail shown in the picture would plug right into the factory harness with less power draw  :banana:
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: cuda hunter on November 26, 2021, 12:17:39 AM
A decent read on exactly this subject.

https://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/threads/holley-retrobright-led-headlights.505084/
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: dodj on November 26, 2021, 03:46:30 AM
They seem ridiculously expensive for what you get IMO. IF those are single bulb prices. If it's a set of four, thats reasonable.
I went with something like these 3 or 4 years ago. Work far better than original. No wiring adapters needed.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255172922426?hash=item3b697dcc3a:g:tW0AAOSwLgxhXkjl
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Brads70 on November 26, 2021, 09:30:31 AM
Quote from: dodj on November 26, 2021, 03:46:30 AM
They seem ridiculously expensive for what you get IMO. IF those are single bulb prices. If it's a set of four, thats reasonable.


:iagree: Crazy money especially when its a pretty safe bet they are made off shore just like the E-Bay versions.
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: 7212Mopar on November 26, 2021, 09:36:04 AM
Thanks Cuda Hunter. I have to admit that I was one of the suckers in the halogen days buying those expensive Sylvania Silverstars bulbs for better light and wondering why they only last a few months. If there was any class settlement, I did not get any.
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: anlauto on November 26, 2021, 09:40:25 AM
Question for the general population....

How many people actually drive their car at night ? I guess it's more common in areas where it's still warm out after the sun sets early ?

Here it gets dark at 5 o'clock now, but everybody's car is put away for six months while ol' man Winter causes his shit. :'(
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: 7212Mopar on November 26, 2021, 09:48:09 AM
I had only driven my car once at night since I own it from 2012. The law does requires you to turn on the headlight when entering tunnels which is fun to do opening the throttle.
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Mr Lee on November 26, 2021, 09:59:21 AM
I drive mine at night occasionally.  Have hit a few cruise nights recently that ended after dark.  (And i drive it in the winter as long as the roads are clean).
I did the headlight relay kit from cracked back and my headlights are nice and bright.  No complaints.
 
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211126/768b4963209e2412a01bba0b50491dd6.jpg)


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Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: MKA on November 26, 2021, 10:15:34 AM
I live in Florida. Now and the next 4 months are the perfect time for driving, most Canadians already know this and start arriving soon, lol.   Photos are from yesterday & today, just to rub it in.

Not planning on too many night drives, but yes will do.   Just have to be careful of the phenomenon called Florida Man.   Something about too much sun.  He can strike at any moment and make you and him front page news.  Here is today's award winner. 

https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/2021/11/26/tampa-surgeon-in-tesla-struck-bicycling-banker-at-about-80-mph-records-say/
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: ragtopdodge on November 26, 2021, 10:37:59 AM
The Holley ones are flat.

For real OEM look, they should be convex.

These are convex:

https://www.dapperlighting.com/products/oe7
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Scooter on November 26, 2021, 11:25:18 AM
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on November 24, 2021, 07:01:44 PM
This just showed up in my email .
Looks like a great option for better lights that fit our E bodies  :bigthumb:
https://www.holley.com/brands/holley_retrobright/products/exterior/lighting/headlight/round_headlights/

I received the same email & ordered a set (pair) for my Challenger.

Shipping is est. mid December. I'll report back when they arrive.

Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Dakota on November 26, 2021, 12:15:14 PM
Um yeah we have a little different weather coming up. 

As to the "night rider" question.... Yes, I do drive at night.  Certain times of the summer on isolated roads this turns my car into a bug magnet, so I try to drive as much as I can on roads with street lights. 
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: 70vert on November 26, 2021, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: ragtopdodge on November 26, 2021, 10:37:59 AM
The Holley ones are flat.

For real OEM look, they should be convex.

These are convex:

https://www.dapperlighting.com/products/oe7

@ragtopdodge (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/ragtopdodge_2966)  those look really nice! And interesting that they offer an option to have built-in halos   8)
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Dmod1974 on November 26, 2021, 01:06:14 PM
Also, these don't look like they have a proper projector for the LED to maximize lighting while minimizing glare.  The Dapper Lighting ones do.
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Grimmey71 on November 27, 2021, 06:55:49 AM
I have the dapper lighting projectors and so far love them.  The cut of lines are crisp and they are bright. I do have halos which I use as turn signals
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: anlauto on November 27, 2021, 07:26:15 AM
Quote from: Grimmey71 on November 27, 2021, 06:55:49 AM
I have the dapper lighting projectors and so far love them.  The cut of lines are crisp and they are bright. I do have halos which I use as turn signals
I put Dapper lights in the last Challenger I built, they look awesome, so I bought a set for my own 71 Cuda....I guess I'll have to go out for a "NIGHT DRIVE" to check them out : 8)

I used the halos for "daytime running lights" with are mandatory on new cars here in Canada. I light the signal light idea :thinking:
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Dmod1974 on November 27, 2021, 07:35:56 AM
I have the HDR switchback halos too and wired them up so the white halos will be on with the park lights and shut off with the headlights, and the inner ones will flash amber with the turn signals.
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: anlauto on November 27, 2021, 07:42:55 AM
Quote from: Dmod1974 on November 27, 2021, 07:35:56 AM
I have the HDR switchback halos too and wired them up so the white halos will be on with the park lights and shut off with the headlights, and the inner ones will flash amber with the turn signals.

That's a great idea :thinking: Did you retain the factory signals too though ? That might look odd  :thinking:
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Dmod1974 on November 27, 2021, 07:45:56 AM
Yes, I don't mind the look since it's like the newer Challengers.  One could just clip the lower valance lamp turn signal wire if they wanted to.

Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Scooter on January 05, 2022, 10:58:49 AM
Have the shipment notification for mine... will arrive this week.
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Spikedog08 on January 05, 2022, 02:00:42 PM
Interesting thread!  Don't drive at night much but sometimes it is necessary. 
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: 340Challman on January 05, 2022, 04:52:43 PM
They make no mention of a hi and low beam option. Did I miss it? Don't see how you could use 4 low beams without rigging a little and changing your aiming.
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: Scooter on January 06, 2022, 12:20:13 PM
My order arrived today... a single 7 in unit.

Double checked my order confirmation.. and it's exactly what I ordered.

Don't remember any recent heavy drug or alcohol use.. I'm stumped. I ordered 1 unit of a size that is of no use to me. 100% my foul up.  :dunno:

Back it goes... will reorder. Can post a few photos if you like... looks just like photos on website.

https://www.holley.com/products/exterior/lighting/headlight/round_headlights/ (https://www.holley.com/products/exterior/lighting/headlight/round_headlights/)
Title: Re: Modern Led headlights for E bodies
Post by: cuda hunter on January 07, 2022, 09:26:56 PM
Are any of yal's halo's solid?  Or do they have led light separations?