I searched and can't find the info, but someone had posted about a company overseas making reproduction VIN dash tags other than AG Backeast....Anybody have that info...
I found it, thanks.. https://www.ebay.ca/itm/DODGE-EMBOSSED-STAMPED-GM-PLATE-CAR-TRUCK-TAG-FRAME-CHASSIS-BODY-/254628056579?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
I'm surprised that would be legal.
Quote from: JH27N0B on March 22, 2022, 07:24:22 AM
I'm surprised that would be legal.
They make them in Netherland.
I imagine you need some sort of proof of ownership... :yes:
I had a lady call me yesterday, her husband died and their Cuda doesn't have the VIN on the dash, and she can't find it anywhere :dunno: so she wants to get one made :soshelp: so I was just passing along the info :ebay:
Quote from: anlauto on March 21, 2022, 05:28:44 PM
I searched and can't find the info, but someone had posted about a company overseas making reproduction VIN dash tags other than AG Backeast....Anybody have that info...
If it was just recently, it was me. I had one made, and yes proof of ownership is required.
I appreciate that he makes them with the correct font, spacing, logo, etc.
Not like some tags I've seen that look like a metal version of a label maker.
Nothing like buying a Cuda and the former owner swapped dashpads, then threw the old one out with tag. Too much work to save, I guess.
Quote from: JH27N0B on March 22, 2022, 07:24:22 AM
I'm surprised that would be legal.
All depends on your intent and purpose.
Trying to make a 318 car into a hemi car? Yea, illegal AF.
Restoring a car you own, with correct information that's true to the car? No problem. Yes I am aware the federal law states 'no altering or tampering' and it can appear to be a gray area as to whether making a new tag that's identical to the original qualifies as 'altering or tampering' but to that I say find me a federal prosecutor who's willing to send a case to court because a guy is honestly just restoring a car and not altering any information in an attempt to deceive.
Quote from: Filthy Filbert on March 22, 2022, 10:58:15 AM
Quote from: JH27N0B on March 22, 2022, 07:24:22 AM
I'm surprised that would be legal.
All depends on your intent and purpose.
Trying to make a 318 car into a hemi car? Yea, illegal AF.
Restoring a car you own, with correct information that's true to the car? No problem. Yes I am aware the federal law states 'no altering or tampering' and it can appear to be a gray area as to whether making a new tag that's identical to the original qualifies as 'altering or tampering' but to that I say find me a federal prosecutor who's willing to send a case to court because a guy is honestly just restoring a car and not altering any information in an attempt to deceive.
@Filthy Filbert (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/filthy-filbert_12805) I agree exactly.
My "grey area" is the person who makes a tag that is altered to match the added items. Honest add for the owner that is keeping said car. He could even sell car legitimately as a clone/tribute for correct $$$ based on its worth as an enhanced base model.
Problem lies where the 2nd or 3rd seller then omits the clone information.
There's a recent case in Canada in which the court ordered a car dealer to refund the entire purchase price of a faked ZL1 COPO Camaro, and awarded another 6 figures to the purchaser (Town and Country Chrysler in Smith's Falls) for lost profit as well as interest and storage costs.
Apparently the car was sold as a tribute at the Toronto collector auction about 10 years ago, and then magically became a 1 of 50 Gibb's ZL1 over the years.
Much like Mopars, ZL1s were not made in LA, but that didn't stop the faker from dollying out the body stampings and redoing them.
That is a brutal 4 as well as a few other characters easily distinguishable from original.
Interesting COPO story YYZ....had not heard that....they are not far from me and have quite an inventory of muscle and exotic cars