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Title: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: nicka on February 15, 2020, 09:26:29 AM
Working on the back half of a '71 Barracuda and the Rear Left Frame Rail has got some rust.  Repair of replace?

Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: b5cuda on February 15, 2020, 09:31:48 AM
I replaced that end section (not the whole frame rail) on my car and it wasn't as bad as yours.
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: RUNCHARGER on February 15, 2020, 09:46:50 AM
I would just do the end section if the rest of the rail is truly rust free. Any question on the rest of it though and I would replace it complete.
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: nicka on February 15, 2020, 10:35:40 AM
Followed the rear left frame rail and forwards the front and theres a section that either needs to be fixed or the whole rail needs to be replaced.

Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: RUNCHARGER on February 15, 2020, 10:45:15 AM
It's quite a bit more work now but I would replace the complete rail.
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: kathyscuda on February 15, 2020, 12:33:13 PM
no way ,, they sell the 2 foot section. cut what you need.
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: 6bblgt on February 15, 2020, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on February 15, 2020, 10:45:15 AM
It's quite a bit more work now but I would replace the complete rail.

:iagree: both ends need replaced - not going to be a whole lot left in the middle - do it all in one piece  :alan2cents:
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: RUNCHARGER on February 15, 2020, 01:38:54 PM
If you fix the front and you fix the rear it will be more work than just changing the whole rail at once. You'll also have twice the chance of screwing it up.
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: 7E-Bodies on February 15, 2020, 05:30:16 PM
For me, I'd replace. Do it once, do it right, then drive with confidence. I always wondered too, how much torque is applied to those since the leaf springs attach to it.
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: BFM_Cuda on February 15, 2020, 08:47:22 PM
I vote to replace it. You will have a stronger rail and it will take less time. You are going through a lot of work on this car, take the extra step and do it right the first time. You will be glad you did.
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: anlauto on February 16, 2020, 07:03:07 AM
Quote from: BFM_Cuda on February 15, 2020, 08:47:22 PM
I vote to replace it. You will have a stronger rail and it will take less time. You are going through a lot of work on this car, take the extra step and do it right the first time. You will be glad you did.

:iagree: couldn't agree more..
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: JS29 on February 16, 2020, 10:25:17 AM
Another vote to replace.  :alan2cents:
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: nicka on March 03, 2020, 05:44:50 AM
On the Left Rear Frame Rail, what is this bolt hole used for?

Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: Dmod1974 on March 03, 2020, 05:59:49 AM
Later years like mine mounted the rear seat belt buckle there instead of a bracket on the wheelhouse. 
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: PLUM72 on March 03, 2020, 07:05:22 AM
How about this?
https://www.classicindustries.com/product/1970/plymouth/barracuda/parts/mm8128.html
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: nicka on March 03, 2020, 07:37:16 AM
Ok.  I purchased the full frame rail from AMD and looking at the shipment Packing List, it mentions 70-74.  So guessing after '71 that they added the bolt hole?

Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: JS29 on March 03, 2020, 08:01:05 AM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: Dmod1974 on March 03, 2020, 11:34:09 AM
From all of the earlier year pics I've seen, yes.  I believe 1972 was the year that the seat belt bolting point changed.

The earlier ones also do not have the large hole in the rear seat back floor for the seat belt bolt to pass through either...  You could always grind the nut welds off and plug weld the hole, or leave it alone entirely.  I think that flange for that nut was there on all years.  I'm not certain though, but you obviously have the old rail to compare it to!
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: nicka on March 03, 2020, 02:41:43 PM
Since mine doesn't have the bolt hole, thinking about cutting and plug welding shut.  I'm guessing this is what other '70 and '71 owners that have had this issue before have done.

Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: nicka on March 27, 2020, 08:15:05 AM
Not sure what this piece is used for?  I noticed it didn't come with the new AMD rear frame rail.
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: Skid Row on March 27, 2020, 08:32:26 AM
 :wave: Emergency brake cable mount?
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: JS29 on March 27, 2020, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Skid Row on March 27, 2020, 08:32:26 AM
:wave: Emergency brake cable mount?
:iagree:
Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: nicka on March 27, 2020, 06:08:38 PM
Thanks.  I went ahead and removed the bracket from the bad left side and welded it to the new amd frame rail.

Title: Re: Rear Left Frame Rail: Repair of Replace
Post by: jimynick on March 28, 2020, 07:07:14 PM
Here's yet another vote to replace the rail, and ask yourself, if the spots I can see are this rotted, how can the rest of it not be far behind? And then put a new one in and have done along with peace of mind, that next year, the part you didn't replace will start showing perforation.  :cheers: