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Title: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on May 28, 2018, 03:22:41 PM
new guy on here , looking for a 1970 challenger passenger side original fender ,I m slowly restoring a WSS 340 fc7 challenger and will be looking for some hard to find pieces .....thanks
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Cuda Cody on May 28, 2018, 03:23:44 PM
Welcome @WSS340 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/wss340_1946)   :welcome:  Thanks for joining us.  Do you have any photos of your car?   :takepicture:  We would love to see it.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: autoxcuda on May 28, 2018, 03:29:55 PM
Simi Valley here. I work in Ventura and Oxnard. I belong to the club that puts on Spring/Fall Flings.

I dont remember seeing any fenders at Spring Fling? Were there any?

I've got a bunch of '70 small pieces. Sold big stuff at a Fall Fling a couple years ago.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Dakota on May 28, 2018, 03:37:08 PM
Welcome to the site from Buffalo, NY.  :wave:   Working on a FC7 Challenger too (base model here). 

Sorry, I don't have any spare fenders.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on May 28, 2018, 03:41:26 PM
I went to spring fling and didn't see any fenders
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: 71-440 on May 28, 2018, 03:42:11 PM
 :welcome:

Welcome aboard and good luck with your ride.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: 303 Mopar on May 28, 2018, 03:46:41 PM
Welcome from CO!  Glad you found us.  Depending on your need and $$$, Carlisle is probably your best bet for hard to find parts.  I know there are a few other Mopar swap meets along the west coast too.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: xx88man on May 28, 2018, 03:58:29 PM
 :welcome: from Chilliwack B.C. Canada....sounds like a cool Chally you have there!
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: bluespruce on May 28, 2018, 04:03:04 PM
Welcome from Colorado, good luck on your quest for parts
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on May 28, 2018, 04:09:56 PM
here  is a couple of pics
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: RUNCHARGER on May 28, 2018, 04:19:45 PM
Nice car. Welcome from B.C. Canada.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on May 28, 2018, 04:48:13 PM
another pic  , yes I do have the numbers matching engine and trans
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on May 28, 2018, 04:54:24 PM
thank you
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: 750-h2 on May 28, 2018, 04:55:57 PM
Wow! I read somewhere there was only 1 340 WSS car built! Do you have the tag?
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: bluespruce on May 28, 2018, 04:57:52 PM
Looks like the tag is still there
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on May 28, 2018, 05:05:54 PM
Looks like allot of parts are still there...
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: JS29 on May 28, 2018, 05:09:27 PM
 :welcome:From central New York, rare car as you well know!!! :bigthumb: Auto or stick car?
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: LinceCuda on May 28, 2018, 05:12:44 PM
 :welcome: From Tennessee and PinkCuda a member here has 2 pairs of 70 front fenders I saw them a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on May 28, 2018, 07:29:22 PM
I do have the tag and 2 build sheets ....real car , FC7 with black bumble bee stripe ,black vinyl top
dual exhaust with chrome tips out the back and AC
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on May 28, 2018, 07:33:15 PM
rim blow wheel ,slap stick auto with console
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: GY3R/T on May 28, 2018, 07:38:23 PM
  Is there an A66 code on the fender tag?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: cuda hunter on May 28, 2018, 08:03:02 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on May 28, 2018, 07:38:23 PM
  Is there an A66 code on the fender tag?  :popcorn:
:popcorn:

Sweet car.  Howdy from the mountains of Colorado!
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Cuda Cody on May 28, 2018, 08:09:39 PM
Great looking project!  Nice find!   :ohyeah:
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Chryco Psycho on May 28, 2018, 08:09:49 PM
Welcome WSS from Panama  :panama: :wave:
cool project
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on May 28, 2018, 08:54:28 PM
JH23HOB           A66 and A91 8)
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 01, 2018, 10:27:29 PM
Quote from: 750-h2 on May 28, 2018, 04:55:57 PM
Wow! I read somewhere there was only 1 340 WSS car built! Do you have the tag?

That's not true. 

One the members and a good friend of mine has a WSS 340 A66 that is red with a white top and red interior. 

@WSS340 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/wss340_1946) - what is wrong the fender you have?  Looks like it does not have an antenna hole.  If that is all that is wrong with it I can swap fenders with you.  Heck I even have one off a WSS (it was a 318 car)
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on June 02, 2018, 12:04:30 AM
sounds like a nice car , I know not many were made
what other options does it have ?
my car was wrecked a few times and had bad repairs, front fender has lots of bondo
I need a taillight panel, taillight panel trim
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: CudaMoparRay on June 02, 2018, 12:30:36 AM
Belated  :welcome: From Sylmar, CA
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 02, 2018, 12:30:39 AM
Quote from: WSS340 on June 02, 2018, 12:04:30 AM
sounds like a nice car , I know not many were made
what other options does it have ?
my car was wrecked a few times and had bad repairs, front fender has lots of bondo
I need a taillight panel, taillight panel trim

Check out the car here:

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2112867/70-challenger-a66-western-sport-special-ex-80s-custom.html#Post2112867

The Mopar Alley show is June 10th in Cupertino.  Might be some goodies there, but in the past the swap has been rather small. 
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Katfish on June 02, 2018, 04:02:05 AM
Forgive my ignorance, what it a WSS and what makes it special?
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: 73440 on June 02, 2018, 04:26:49 AM
Western Sport Special

http://www.challengerspecs.com/1970challenger_western_special.htm
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 02, 2018, 05:07:13 AM
Quote from: 73440 on June 02, 2018, 04:26:49 AM
Western Sport Special

http://www.challengerspecs.com/1970challenger_western_special.htm

That article appears to be total crap.

Barry Washington has documented versions of TA WSS cars and there are far more than 1 A66 car.  It's just a trim package. 
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Katfish on June 02, 2018, 05:09:46 AM
Interesting, thanks
From the page:
For that price you received a Western Sport Special decal on the rear fenders (see photos below), a vinyl roof, a woodgrain instrument panel applique, a remote control mirror, the rim blow steering wheel, sill mouldings, belt mouldings, front splash pan scoop, cowl moulding, rear taillight Astrotone applique, pedals dress-up kit, bumper guards w/rubber inserts and F78x14 inch white side wall tyres mounted on 14" Rallye wheels.

So what are?
Front splash pan scoop
Cowl molding
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 02, 2018, 05:19:56 AM
Quote from: Katfish on June 02, 2018, 05:09:46 AM
Interesting, thanks
From the page:
For that price you received a Western Sport Special decal on the rear fenders (see photos below), a vinyl roof, a woodgrain instrument panel applique, a remote control mirror, the rim blow steering wheel, sill mouldings, belt mouldings, front splash pan scoop, cowl moulding, rear taillight Astrotone applique, pedals dress-up kit, bumper guards w/rubber inserts and F78x14 inch white side wall tyres mounted on 14" Rallye wheels.

So what are?
Front splash pan scoop
Cowl molding

It's SE trim.

Front splash pan scoop is the trim that attaches to the front valence opening. 

Cowl molding is the three trim pieces that attach to the rear of the hood and fenders.

All SE trim items
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: JH27N0B on June 02, 2018, 06:01:53 AM
It's probably best to say "all found standard on SEs".  The trim was available on non-SEs by ordering the A63 package, as well as apparently being standard with the WSS.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 02, 2018, 01:50:26 PM
Quote from: JH27N0B on June 02, 2018, 06:01:53 AM
It's probably best to say "all found standard on SEs".  The trim was available on non-SEs by ordering the A63 package, as well as apparently being standard with the WSS.

I have an N96 V code Challenger that has all the SE trim other than the rear finish panel.  It's a two fender tag car which is uncommon for Challengers
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: 6bblgt on June 02, 2018, 03:16:59 PM
the A63 "moulding package" consisted of the following mouldings that were STANDARD on the Challenger SE & R/T SE - OTIONAL on others

front valence (air scoop) mouldings
rear of hood/fenders & belt mouldings
& tail panel finish mouldings

it was all or nothing - none were available separately for 1970
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Katfish on June 02, 2018, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 02, 2018, 05:19:56 AM
Quote from: Katfish on June 02, 2018, 05:09:46 AM
Interesting, thanks
From the page:
For that price you received a Western Sport Special decal on the rear fenders (see photos below), a vinyl roof, a woodgrain instrument panel applique, a remote control mirror, the rim blow steering wheel, sill mouldings, belt mouldings, front splash pan scoop, cowl moulding, rear taillight Astrotone applique, pedals dress-up kit, bumper guards w/rubber inserts and F78x14 inch white side wall tyres mounted on 14" Rallye wheels.

So what are?
Front splash pan scoop
Cowl molding

It's SE trim.

Front splash pan scoop is the trim that attaches to the front valence opening. 

Cowl molding is the three trim pieces that attach to the rear of the hood and fenders.

All SE trim items

Thanks, funny they call the piece of trim a "scoop"?
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: autoxcuda on June 02, 2018, 04:57:53 PM
A63 trim package was available in 1971 also. And there was no separate "SE" model offered in 1971.

In 71 it just didn't come with the rear astrotone finish panel.

It's just a 70-71 trim package that happened to be included with 1970 S/E models.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 02, 2018, 06:47:08 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on June 02, 2018, 03:16:59 PM
the A63 "moulding package" consisted of the following mouldings that were STANDARD on the Challenger SE & R/T SE - OTIONAL on others

front valence (air scoop) mouldings
rear of hood/fenders & belt mouldings
& tail panel finish mouldings

it was all or nothing - none were available separately for 1970

What do mean was not available separately?  M31 can be ordered by itself.  The only thing I think you can't order by itself is the rear finish panel. 
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Topcat on June 02, 2018, 07:05:10 PM
Wow! Cool car options. 

Gonna be fun watching this being restored.

Title: Re: original parts
Post by: 6bblgt on June 02, 2018, 07:55:52 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 02, 2018, 06:47:08 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on June 02, 2018, 03:16:59 PM
the A63 "moulding package" consisted of the following mouldings that were STANDARD on the Challenger SE & R/T SE - OTIONAL on others

front valence (air scoop) mouldings
rear of hood/fenders & belt mouldings
& tail panel finish mouldings

it was all or nothing - none were available separately for 1970

What do mean was not available separately?  M31 can be ordered by itself.  The only thing I think you can't order by itself is the rear finish panel.

not on a '70 Challenger
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: JH27N0B on June 02, 2018, 08:51:45 PM
The boxes were checked for all that bling when my convertible was specced out.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 02, 2018, 09:45:21 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on June 02, 2018, 07:55:52 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 02, 2018, 06:47:08 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on June 02, 2018, 03:16:59 PM
the A63 "moulding package" consisted of the following mouldings that were STANDARD on the Challenger SE & R/T SE - OTIONAL on others

front valence (air scoop) mouldings
rear of hood/fenders & belt mouldings
& tail panel finish mouldings

it was all or nothing - none were available separately for 1970

What do mean was not available separately?  M31 can be ordered by itself.  The only thing I think you can't order by itself is the rear finish panel.

not on a '70 Challenger

I'll have to double check my fender tag and sheet when I get home
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on June 02, 2018, 09:54:14 PM
 :lookatthat:that red wss a66 is beautiful ,my  wss a66 is documented on Washington's site, just motivates me to get going on mine
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 03, 2018, 12:12:05 AM
Quote from: WSS340 on June 02, 2018, 09:54:14 PM
:lookatthat:that red wss a66 is beautiful ,my  wss a66 is documented on Washington's site, just motivates me to get going on mine

He's doing it slightly on a budget and since he is trying to get 3 other cars together at the same time it's pretty impressive
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on June 03, 2018, 01:06:24 PM
 :popcorn:  my numbers matching WSS340 engine ,I was going to use the block for my 408 build but I'm probably going to use a 360 block and just store this engine in the garage

I'm a professional race engine builder so a stock 340 is not going to cut-it for a heavy challenger . the goal is 500hp on pump gas ....good luck everyone with those projects
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: tparker on June 03, 2018, 02:51:00 PM
Sweet. I have only seen one or two Western Sport Specials over the years. Not too many.  I have one I'm restoring that I bought back in 1989 or so for $900. It's yellow with a vinyl top and originally had a 318 and very wimpy drive train. Most of the WSS options seem to be trim related. I dig everything except the side molding which I'll remove. Unfortunately I let it sit while in the army and it got trashed. I have most of the interior complete and need to focus on engine bay. I got a 340 I hope to send to the shop in a few months along with a 727 torque flight tranny and an 8 3/4. The sad thing is I'd like to replace the decals but I don't think I can get them anywhere.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: autoxcuda on June 03, 2018, 03:19:38 PM
Quote from: WSS340 on June 03, 2018, 01:06:24 PM
:popcorn:  my numbers matching WSS340 engine ,I was going to use the block for my 408 build but I'm probably going to use a 360 block and just store this engine in the garage

I'm a professional race engine builder so a stock 340 is not going to cut-it for a heavy challenger . the goal is 500hp on pump gas ....good luck everyone with those projects

Do you plan on 500 hp completely stealth with stock engine compartment?

Or simply running aftermarket heads and headers ?
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on June 03, 2018, 04:27:25 PM
 :popcorn:  rpm heads ,tti  headers ,rpm intake but the complete engine with stock valve covers will be painted orange and running original air cleaner
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on June 03, 2018, 04:29:51 PM
do you mean the lower rocker moulding ? what condition is it in ?   send pics to cchavez0108@gmail.com
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Topcat on June 03, 2018, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: tparker on June 03, 2018, 02:51:00 PM
The sad thing is I'd like to replace the decals but I don't think I can get them anywhere.

They're out there.
Just do some searches.

https://www.phoenixgraphix.com/p-d/6970wss.php
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: anlauto on June 03, 2018, 06:11:51 PM
Quote from: tparker on June 03, 2018, 02:51:00 PM
The sad thing is I'd like to replace the decals but I don't think I can get them anywhere.

The only place for quality mopar decals and stripes....PERFORMANCE CAR GRAPHICS  :twothumbsup:
http://www.performancecargraphics.com/Stripes_Lettering/Challenger/70_Western_Sport_Special.htm
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: tparker on June 04, 2018, 08:35:07 AM
Thanks @anlauto (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/anlauto_19) & @Topcat (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/topcat_46)  I had no idea they actually made these. I actually don't want to scrape the old ones off, but they are in horrible shape and car HAS to be repainted.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: quapman on June 04, 2018, 09:46:07 AM
Did David at PCG ever get the lettering right on the WSS decals? The ones I bought 20 years ago were slightly different from originals. Mostly in the "W" if I recall.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: autoxcuda on June 04, 2018, 11:29:40 AM
Quote from: WSS340 on June 03, 2018, 04:27:25 PM
:popcorn:  rpm heads ,tti  headers ,rpm intake but the complete engine with stock valve covers will be painted orange and running original air cleaner

Shouldn't be much challenge to get 500hp with your resources.

I run that same basic setup in a 340 block to make 416" in my 68 A-body Barracuda.

I thought you might try to get to 500hp with cast iron heads and stock manifolds. That would be trick and super stealth.

Title: Re: original parts
Post by: 70/6chall on June 04, 2018, 05:03:49 PM
When I Dodge dealership purchased my Challenger, as a trade-in, it was decked out in WSS trim.
Not coded A91 but all WSS trim present inside and out minus the vinyl top. Probably a collaboration between dealer and original owner to get rid of a Slant6 car. When it came time for a repaint, I fretted about the decals on rear quarters. Can't remember who I bought them from, this was in early 90's. They did not look the same as the originals. Could've been PCG not sure. I didn't make bones about the wrong "W, had the new paint applied in '98 and put the decals on. I've since found the proper original decals and planning on swapping them out. I believe the ones I used was for the '69 Dart.
Couple pics for example.    Thanks,   Al
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: GY3R/T on June 04, 2018, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: WSS340 on June 03, 2018, 01:06:24 PM
:popcorn:  my numbers matching WSS340 engine ,I was going to use the block for my 408 build but I'm probably going to use a 360 block and just store this engine in the garage

I'm a professional race engine builder so a stock 340 is not going to cut-it for a heavy challenger . the goal is 500hp on pump gas ....good luck everyone with those projects
Did 1970 WSS 340 engines come with the smaller 1.88 intake valves ?    :thinking:
   Was your WSS Challenger a very late production car ? Was the engine ever opened ?
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 04, 2018, 09:04:51 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 04, 2018, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: WSS340 on June 03, 2018, 01:06:24 PM
:popcorn:  my numbers matching WSS340 engine ,I was going to use the block for my 408 build but I'm probably going to use a 360 block and just store this engine in the garage

I'm a professional race engine builder so a stock 340 is not going to cut-it for a heavy challenger . the goal is 500hp on pump gas ....good luck everyone with those projects
Did 1970 WSS 340 engines come with the smaller 1.88 intake valves ?    :thinking:
   Was your WSS Challenger a very late production car ? Was the engine ever opened ?

Why would being a WSS have any effect on that? 
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: GY3R/T on June 04, 2018, 10:21:14 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 04, 2018, 09:04:51 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 04, 2018, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: WSS340 on June 03, 2018, 01:06:24 PM
:popcorn:  my numbers matching WSS340 engine ,I was going to use the block for my 408 build but I'm probably going to use a 360 block and just store this engine in the garage

I'm a professional race engine builder so a stock 340 is not going to cut-it for a heavy challenger . the goal is 500hp on pump gas ....good luck everyone with those projects
Did 1970 WSS 340 engines come with the smaller 1.88 intake valves ?    :thinking:
   Was your WSS Challenger a very late production car ? Was the engine ever opened ?

Why would being a WSS have any effect on that?
Because I'm looking at pic of a numbers matching 1970 340 from a WSS challenger with J heads. ( see earlier post ).
And is why i asked the other two questions.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on June 04, 2018, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 04, 2018, 10:21:14 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 04, 2018, 09:04:51 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 04, 2018, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: WSS340 on June 03, 2018, 01:06:24 PM
:popcorn:  my numbers matching WSS340 engine ,I was going to use the block for my 408 build but I'm probably going to use a 360 block and just store this engine in the garage

I'm a professional race engine builder so a stock 340 is not going to cut-it for a heavy challenger . the goal is 500hp on pump gas ....good luck everyone with those projects
Did 1970 WSS 340 engines come with the smaller 1.88 intake valves ?    :thinking:
   Was your WSS Challenger a very late production car ? Was the engine ever opened ?

Why would being a WSS have any effect on that?
Because I'm looking at pic of a numbers matching 1970 340 from a WSS challenger with J heads. ( see earlier post ).
And is why i asked the other two questions.

Very few if any 70 340's  were originally equipped with X heads....  J heads with 2.02 valves are the norm....  68 & 69 got X heads....
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: RUNCHARGER on June 05, 2018, 07:01:33 PM
The J-heads on a 340 in 70-71 were supposed to have 2.02 valves.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: GY3R/T on June 05, 2018, 07:59:05 PM
 Does anyone have a pic of J head with a 69 cast date ?
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on June 05, 2018, 09:30:27 PM
 :popcorn: when I get back to my garage i'll check my original heads
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: GY3R/T on June 05, 2018, 09:47:23 PM
Quote from: WSS340 on June 05, 2018, 09:30:27 PM
:popcorn: when I get back to my garage i'll check my original heads
And Maybe the first four numbers of the vin sequence ?
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on June 05, 2018, 10:26:24 PM
 :popcorn: whats that going to tell you ?
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 05, 2018, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: WSS340 on June 05, 2018, 10:26:24 PM
:popcorn: whats that going to tell you ?

Absolutely nothing!

There is no way to know if the heads are original to the motor. 

Also Chrysler had no concept of first in and first out.  You could have two heads with drastically different dates on them.  Hell you could have a J head on one side and an X on the other
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 06:50:58 AM
  VIN sequence numbers and SPD will give an approximate time of assembly. I guess i could've asked for SPD. There is a way to tell if certain parts are not original to an engine. Simply if casting dates are later than assembly dates.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 07:29:03 AM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 06:50:58 AM
  VIN sequence numbers and SPD will give an approximate time of assembly. I guess i could've asked for SPD. There is a way to tell if certain parts are not original to an engine. Simply if casting dates are later than assembly dates.

You should ask for the engine assembly date which is on the front of the block. 

However once again there was no first in first out so the casting dates of the heads can be anywhere
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 09:21:13 AM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 07:29:03 AM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 06:50:58 AM
  VIN sequence numbers and SPD will give an approximate time of assembly. I guess i could've asked for SPD. There is a way to tell if certain parts are not original to an engine. Simply if casting dates are later than assembly dates.

You should ask for the engine assembly date which is on the front of the block. 

However once again there was no first in first out so the casting dates of the heads can be anywhere
   There was another reason why i asked for first part of VIN sequence numbers. Didn't ask for all six numbers out of respect to the owners privacy.
   FIFO does not apply if casting dates are after the (varified) assembly date of the car or stamped assembly date on the " numbers matching " engine.  A cylinder head cast on 07-06-0 cannot be original to an engine assm on 05-05-0, because that head did not exist at the time of assm. Castings before 05-05-0 can be anywhere as you said and mixed matched X,O,Z and J. I'm just curious of the history and originality of this rare car.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 09:25:56 AM
   I don't why my post didn't seperate from Morty426.  :notsure:
My responce starts with 'There was another reason....."
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: anlauto on June 06, 2018, 09:39:37 AM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 09:25:56 AM
   I don't why my post didn't seperate from Morty426.  :notsure:
My responce starts with 'There was another reason....."

@GY3R/T (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/gy3rt_65)  When you "Quote" somebody, you have to watch you don't start typing before the "[/quote]" which is sometimes hiding off screen.... If you press "modify" you'll see where it is in your post. ....

That's why your answer is not separate. :alan2cents:
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 10:09:36 AM
  Got it.   :bigthumb:
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 09:25:56 AM
   I don't why my post didn't seperate from Morty426.  :notsure:
My responce starts with 'There was another reason....."

I could read and felt this is where you were going anyway

A friend of mine once owned a TX9 70 Hemi GTX.  Original motor.  When we pulled the motor to have the car restored it turned out the passenger head was dated 66, the drivers 69. 

So at sometime in it's life it looked like one head failed and was replaced.  The look of the motor lead us to believe it was replaced rather than built that way. 

Title: Re: original parts
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on June 06, 2018, 05:47:32 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 09:25:56 AM
   I don't why my post didn't seperate from Morty426.  :notsure:
My responce starts with 'There was another reason....."

I could read and felt this is where you were going anyway

A friend of mine once owned a TX9 70 Hemi GTX.  Original motor.  When we pulled the motor to have the car restored it turned out the passenger head was dated 66, the drivers 69. 

Marlin? Or the man before Marlin?   

So at sometime in it's life it looked like one head failed and was replaced.  The look of the motor lead us to believe it was replaced rather than built that way.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 07:03:18 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on June 06, 2018, 05:47:32 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 09:25:56 AM
   I don't why my post didn't seperate from Morty426.  :notsure:
My responce starts with 'There was another reason....."

I could read and felt this is where you were going anyway

A friend of mine once owned a TX9 70 Hemi GTX.  Original motor.  When we pulled the motor to have the car restored it turned out the passenger head was dated 66, the drivers 69. 

Marlin? Or the man before Marlin?   

So at sometime in it's life it looked like one head failed and was replaced.  The look of the motor lead us to believe it was replaced rather than built that way.

Bill Jurevich of Hollister CA was the guy that bought it from the original owner and had it restored by my brother.  I am not sure who he sold it to but I think that person sold it to Marlin. 

Funny side note.  At the time 4 of the 43 70 Hemi GTX 4 speeds were in Nor Cal - Bill's TX9, My FK5 and two FC7s down in Vacaville. 
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on June 06, 2018, 08:38:29 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 07:03:18 PM
Bill Jurevich of Hollister CA was the guy that bought it from the original owner and had it restored by my brother.  I am not sure who he sold it to but I think that person sold it to Marlin. 

Funny side note.  At the time 4 of the 43 70 Hemi GTX 4 speeds were in Nor Cal - Bill's TX9, My FK5 and two FC7s down in Vacaville.

Bill Jurevich.... There's a name I haven't heard in awhile.... Didn't  realize he owned the GTX, but he did own quite a few TX9 cars so I guess I should have made the connection....  Beautiful Resto on the GTX...   I know Bill had a number of cars stored in box cars on his property... I heard he had some cars damaged from the Loma Prieta quake..  Don't recall hearing much from him after that, I think he moved up north....

I think I've seen one of the FC7 cars years ago...
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 08:44:31 PM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 05, 2018, 07:59:05 PM
Does anyone have a pic of J head with a 69 cast date ?
Anybody ?  :notsure:
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on June 06, 2018, 08:38:29 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 07:03:18 PM
Bill Jurevich of Hollister CA was the guy that bought it from the original owner and had it restored by my brother.  I am not sure who he sold it to but I think that person sold it to Marlin. 

Funny side note.  At the time 4 of the 43 70 Hemi GTX 4 speeds were in Nor Cal - Bill's TX9, My FK5 and two FC7s down in Vacaville.

Bill Jurevich.... There's a name I haven't heard in awhile.... Didn't  realize he owned the GTX, but he did own quite a few TX9 cars so I guess I should have made the connection....  Beautiful Resto on the GTX...   I know Bill had a number of cars stored in box cars on his property... I heard he had some cars damaged from the Loma Prieta quake..  Don't recall hearing much from him after that, I think he moved up north....

I think I've seen one of the FC7 cars years ago...

Bill J was my Dealer back in the day.  He would call me and my brother almost every month with a car, my 70 Superbee Coupe V code came from Bill.  He had many cars on his property, stored in shipping containers, owned by himself, his dad and a friend of his.  The list of cars would make everyone cry so I want list it.  Eventually Bill got a visit from the DMV and CHP accusing him of being a dealer without a license.  That and the changing market forced him out.  At the end he asked me to buy up the last remaining parts he had.  I think he is still there and occasionally he posts a car For Sale.

One of the FC7 cars was in Vacaville whole.  I think it was with white interior and power windows.  Nice car.  The other had the motor out of it and is still in Vacaville.  The motor goes up For Sale on eBay at a crazy price all the time.  I had a chance to buy the body many years ago but it just wasn't in the cards at the time. 
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 11:24:53 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on June 06, 2018, 08:38:29 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 07:03:18 PM
Bill Jurevich of Hollister CA was the guy that bought it from the original owner and had it restored by my brother.  I am not sure who he sold it to but I think that person sold it to Marlin. 

Funny side note.  At the time 4 of the 43 70 Hemi GTX 4 speeds were in Nor Cal - Bill's TX9, My FK5 and two FC7s down in Vacaville.

Bill Jurevich.... There's a name I haven't heard in awhile.... Didn't  realize he owned the GTX, but he did own quite a few TX9 cars so I guess I should have made the connection....  Beautiful Resto on the GTX...   I know Bill had a number of cars stored in box cars on his property... I heard he had some cars damaged from the Loma Prieta quake..  Don't recall hearing much from him after that, I think he moved up north....

I think I've seen one of the FC7 cars years ago...

Bill J was my Dealer back in the day.  He would call me and my brother almost every month with a car, my 70 Superbee Coupe V code came from Bill.  He had many cars on his property, stored in shipping containers, owned by himself, his dad and a friend of his.  The list of cars would make everyone cry so I want list it.  Eventually Bill got a visit from the DMV and CHP accusing him of being a dealer without a license.  That and the changing market forced him out.  At the end he asked me to buy up the last remaining parts he had.  I think he is still there and occasionally he posts a car For Sale.

One of the FC7 cars was in Vacaville whole.  I think it was with white interior and power windows.  Nice car.  The other had the motor out of it and is still in Vacaville.  The motor goes up For Sale on eBay at a crazy price all the time.  I had a chance to buy the body many years ago but it just wasn't in the cards at the time.
Jeeez... How did you guys get to this place. Talking about your experience with a GTX. Has nothing to do about this thread. WSS340 is Looking for orignial Challenger parts for his WSS Challenger. AND any History or info about his car. If you want to talk about the GTX, maybe PM each other, or start a new thread.
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 07, 2018, 12:49:05 AM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 11:24:53 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on June 06, 2018, 08:38:29 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 07:03:18 PM
Bill Jurevich of Hollister CA was the guy that bought it from the original owner and had it restored by my brother.  I am not sure who he sold it to but I think that person sold it to Marlin. 

Funny side note.  At the time 4 of the 43 70 Hemi GTX 4 speeds were in Nor Cal - Bill's TX9, My FK5 and two FC7s down in Vacaville.

Bill Jurevich.... There's a name I haven't heard in awhile.... Didn't  realize he owned the GTX, but he did own quite a few TX9 cars so I guess I should have made the connection....  Beautiful Resto on the GTX...   I know Bill had a number of cars stored in box cars on his property... I heard he had some cars damaged from the Loma Prieta quake..  Don't recall hearing much from him after that, I think he moved up north....

I think I've seen one of the FC7 cars years ago...

Bill J was my Dealer back in the day.  He would call me and my brother almost every month with a car, my 70 Superbee Coupe V code came from Bill.  He had many cars on his property, stored in shipping containers, owned by himself, his dad and a friend of his.  The list of cars would make everyone cry so I want list it.  Eventually Bill got a visit from the DMV and CHP accusing him of being a dealer without a license.  That and the changing market forced him out.  At the end he asked me to buy up the last remaining parts he had.  I think he is still there and occasionally he posts a car For Sale.

One of the FC7 cars was in Vacaville whole.  I think it was with white interior and power windows.  Nice car.  The other had the motor out of it and is still in Vacaville.  The motor goes up For Sale on eBay at a crazy price all the time.  I had a chance to buy the body many years ago but it just wasn't in the cards at the time.
Jeeez... How did you guys get to this place. Talking about your experience with a GTX. Has nothing to do about this thread. WSS340 is Looking for orignial Challenger parts for his WSS Challenger. AND any History or info about his car. If you want to talk about the GTX, maybe PM each other, or start a new thread.

Yes your highness!

WSS - let me know what you need and I can help you source it.  I have 7 challengers and parted out plenty of them. 
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on June 07, 2018, 07:51:44 AM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 11:24:53 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on June 06, 2018, 08:38:29 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 07:03:18 PM
Bill Jurevich of Hollister CA was the guy that bought it from the original owner and had it restored by my brother.  I am not sure who he sold it to but I think that person sold it to Marlin. 

Funny side note.  At the time 4 of the 43 70 Hemi GTX 4 speeds were in Nor Cal - Bill's TX9, My FK5 and two FC7s down in Vacaville.

Bill Jurevich.... There's a name I haven't heard in awhile.... Didn't  realize he owned the GTX, but he did own quite a few TX9 cars so I guess I should have made the connection....  Beautiful Resto on the GTX...   I know Bill had a number of cars stored in box cars on his property... I heard he had some cars damaged from the Loma Prieta quake..  Don't recall hearing much from him after that, I think he moved up north....

I think I've seen one of the FC7 cars years ago...

Bill J was my Dealer back in the day.  He would call me and my brother almost every month with a car, my 70 Superbee Coupe V code came from Bill.  He had many cars on his property, stored in shipping containers, owned by himself, his dad and a friend of his.  The list of cars would make everyone cry so I want list it.  Eventually Bill got a visit from the DMV and CHP accusing him of being a dealer without a license.  That and the changing market forced him out.  At the end he asked me to buy up the last remaining parts he had.  I think he is still there and occasionally he posts a car For Sale.

One of the FC7 cars was in Vacaville whole.  I think it was with white interior and power windows.  Nice car.  The other had the motor out of it and is still in Vacaville.  The motor goes up For Sale on eBay at a crazy price all the time.  I had a chance to buy the body many years ago but it just wasn't in the cards at the time.
Jeeez... How did you guys get to this place. Talking about your experience with a GTX. Has nothing to do about this thread. WSS340 is Looking for orignial Challenger parts for his WSS Challenger. AND any History or info about his car. If you want to talk about the GTX, maybe PM each other, or start a new thread.


Sez the guy who's taken the thread on a tangent about 69 date coded J heads.......    Discussions happen, sometimes they go on a little detour.... Enjoy the ride...
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: DAYLEY/CHALLENGER on June 07, 2018, 08:34:36 AM
Just read thru this thread.......getting towards a soap opera with many story lines........but all in all, plenty of information flowing and now getting back to the main story......interesting............the ride is exciting........ :burnout:

By the way, interesting WSS.....good luck...... :wrenching:
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: GY3R/T on June 07, 2018, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on June 07, 2018, 07:51:44 AM
Quote from: GY3R/T on June 06, 2018, 11:24:53 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on June 06, 2018, 08:38:29 PM
Quote from: Morty426 on June 06, 2018, 07:03:18 PM
Bill Jurevich of Hollister CA was the guy that bought it from the original owner and had it restored by my brother.  I am not sure who he sold it to but I think that person sold it to Marlin. 

Funny side note.  At the time 4 of the 43 70 Hemi GTX 4 speeds were in Nor Cal - Bill's TX9, My FK5 and two FC7s down in Vacaville.

Bill Jurevich.... There's a name I haven't heard in awhile.... Didn't  realize he owned the GTX, but he did own quite a few TX9 cars so I guess I should have made the connection....  Beautiful Resto on the GTX...   I know Bill had a number of cars stored in box cars on his property... I heard he had some cars damaged from the Loma Prieta quake..  Don't recall hearing much from him after that, I think he moved up north....

I think I've seen one of the FC7 cars years ago...

Bill J was my Dealer back in the day.  He would call me and my brother almost every month with a car, my 70 Superbee Coupe V code came from Bill.  He had many cars on his property, stored in shipping containers, owned by himself, his dad and a friend of his.  The list of cars would make everyone cry so I want list it.  Eventually Bill got a visit from the DMV and CHP accusing him of being a dealer without a license.  That and the changing market forced him out.  At the end he asked me to buy up the last remaining parts he had.  I think he is still there and occasionally he posts a car For Sale.

One of the FC7 cars was in Vacaville whole.  I think it was with white interior and power windows.  Nice car.  The other had the motor out of it and is still in Vacaville.  The motor goes up For Sale on eBay at a crazy price all the time.  I had a chance to buy the body many years ago but it just wasn't in the cards at the time.
Jeeez... How did you guys get to this place. Talking about your experience with a GTX. Has nothing to do about this thread. WSS340 is Looking for orignial Challenger parts for his WSS Challenger. AND any History or info about his car. If you want to talk about the GTX, maybe PM each other, or start a new thread.


Sez the guy who's taken the thread on a tangent about 69 date coded J heads.......    Discussions happen, sometimes they go on a little detour.... Enjoy the ride...
This Thread is about a 1970 WSS 340 Challenger that happens to have J heads.
        I'm curious If they are original to the car. How is that derailing the thread ?
       I find it somewhat lacking respect to the original poster when someone starts talking about
       something that has nothing to do with the thread.
       
       
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: RUNCHARGER on June 07, 2018, 06:33:28 PM
Where'd I put that Snickers?
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 07, 2018, 06:43:12 PM
I had a 1970 Challenger 340 4 speed. 

It was my daily driver from 1985 to 1987

100% stock and original

It had J heads
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on June 09, 2018, 10:32:04 PM
 :popcorn:    my heads are J  heads with the 2.02 valves, still need pass. fender , driver quarter panel and taillight panel , any help is appreciated , really trying to find original mopar parts
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: Morty426 on June 09, 2018, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: WSS340 on June 09, 2018, 10:32:04 PM
:popcorn:    my heads are J  heads with the 2.02 valves, still need pass. fender , driver quarter panel and taillight panel , any help is appreciated , really trying to find original mopar parts

What is the going rate on a good original 70 fender?
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: WSS340 on June 11, 2018, 12:59:45 AM
 :popcorn: 
Title: Re: original parts
Post by: RUNCHARGER on June 11, 2018, 08:37:47 AM
Patience is a virtue they say. Along with rock steady hands that is.