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Title: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: soundcontrol on January 24, 2020, 11:18:24 AM
This sounds cheap, could it be a scam?
I sent a mail. No phone number.

https://www.hotmusclecars.com/details.php?id=1387
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: JS29 on January 24, 2020, 01:28:31 PM
That dose seam to good to be true!  :yes:
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: 6pack on January 24, 2020, 05:02:46 PM
I would say it is a scam.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: 340challconvert on January 24, 2020, 05:47:13 PM
soundcontrol
That sales sight is interesting
Just for heck, I checked another listing; a 69 Chevelle SS tribute car with a 350
Car looked pretty good for $7800.  Seemed very low, almost another come on scam price?
https://www.hotmusclecars.com/details.php?id=1933&search_id=1662
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: cuda hunter on January 24, 2020, 06:03:31 PM
A 440 magnum Plymouth Cuda is always a solid project car. Having a rare citron mist exterior, this car is something special. It has a clean CA title. The car does not have a drive train. The sheet metal has been replaced on the front floor, both quarter panels, and inside the trunk and extensions.

I have to disagree with his first sentence.  Not only does he not use the correct grammar but a cuda is not always a solid project car.   
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: DAYLEY/CHALLENGER on January 24, 2020, 06:42:20 PM
Prices are really screwy.   Cars look good though.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: anlauto on January 24, 2020, 07:35:35 PM
I'm leaning towards scam as well, but it could be a 318 Barracuda that once had a 440 in it, which if that was the case, then the asking price isn't that far off ? Still low in my opinion.

Was the VIN listed anywhere ? I missed it  :thinking:
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: soundcontrol on January 24, 2020, 11:56:32 PM
Probably a scam then, no one reurned my e-mail.
Damn, that made me want a Cuda project!  :crying:
Like I need another project...
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: soundcontrol on January 27, 2020, 11:43:49 AM
I got an answer on my mail now, ...it was just serviced.  :haha:
Gonna reply and ask exactly what they did at that service.
At some point I guess they will ask me for money.

Yes is still available. The vehicle is in good condition, has no technical damages at all, no scratches or dents,no hidden defects. The interior is in virtually spotless condition. The seats are clean and not torn. The exterior is in excellent condition,tires are in good shape, brakes work well. This vehicle has never been into any accident.

It comes with all the documents needed for registration, it has a clear and clean title and it can be registered into your name at any time. Just serviced.
We Have no knowledge of any hidden defects with this vehicle.

Thank you!
---
Harold Bennett
Sales Department
eAutoSmart Traders
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: mopartaz on January 27, 2020, 12:52:40 PM
I cant find a company website for eautosmart traders doing a Google search. But they seem to have a lot of positive reviews from happy customers. Everyone online from boats to motorcycles forums. Apparently they are a contracted selling service .
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: RUNCHARGER on January 27, 2020, 01:04:22 PM
That seems like a decent deal that would be worth taking a chance on. 15 inch rally wheels on it by the look of it. Rally cluster too. It would be a no brainer if a person was close enough to drive there and touch it before handing the money over.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: soundcontrol on January 27, 2020, 01:19:33 PM
Quote from: mopartaz on January 27, 2020, 12:52:40 PM
I cant find a company website for eautosmart traders doing a Google search. But they seem to have a lot of positive reviews from happy customers. Everyone online from boats to motorcycles forums. Apparently they are a contracted selling service .

They do have a website, consigment deals:
https://www.eautosmart.com/consignment-centralstore/index.html

And I do have a guy in L.A that can help me. I'll buy it in a heartbeat if it's real.
It's probably not though.
Waiting for their response.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: 6pack on January 27, 2020, 06:20:31 PM
After looking at that site, I would say scam city.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: dmastr3665 on January 27, 2020, 08:14:56 PM
i sent an email and got a reply it is defiantly a scam, all i asked for was a number to call and he sends me this crap (Yes is still available. The vehicle is in good condition, has no technical damages at all, no scratches or dents,no hidden defects. The interior is in virtually spotless condition. The seats are clean and not torn. The exterior is in excellent condition,tires are in good shape, brakes work well. This vehicle has never been into any accident.

It comes with all the documents needed for registration, it has a clear and clean title and it can be registered into your name at any time. Just serviced.
We Have no knowledge of any hidden defects with this vehicle.

Thank you!
---
Harold Bennett
Sales Department
eAutoSmart Traders)   an obvious scam.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: soundcontrol on January 28, 2020, 04:44:08 AM
Yep, same as I got, now I replied to that and I got this:


The total price is $8300 ( no extra fees for you, shipping included in the price )...The payment will be made only after you'll receive test and inspect the vehicle .

The vehicle is stored in one of our warehouses and you can buy it directly from us.

For more details such as pictures, full description and our contact please visit www.eautosmart.com and under the INVENTORY tab use stock # HX287274 .

https://eautosmart.com/consignment-centralstore/search-stock/HX287274.html

All you have to do is to hit the " CLICK HERE to get started " we need only your shipping address, NO PAYMENT DETAILS.

You will have 10 day return policy and 10 days for inspection before payment. If something won't be like you expected to be you can return the vehicle without any expense .
It comes with all the documents needed for registration, it has a clear title and it can be registered into your name at any time. We will handle the sale and the title transfer.

Thank you!
---
Harold Bennett
Sales Department
eAutoSmart Traders


Now, it looks very real, if you Google eAutosmart Traders and you will find noting bad about them, just good stuff...but you won't find their website! (suspicious).
AND if you click the Truste and Verisign logos at the bottom, it goes to show that the company is listed with those services, BUT, if you go to Truste directly and search for their name, it is not there. Checking the domain name on the Truste verified account , the domain name only has one page, with this company! Same deal with Verisign, there is a domain that only has one page, this companies verification. If it's a scam, it's very well setup, gotta give them that.

These looks like domains set up just to fake a license with Verisign and Truste, the only page on those domains are for eAutosmart Traders.
http://www.verisign-verifiedwebsite.com
http://www.truste-websiteverified.com
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: Cudamike on January 28, 2020, 07:58:29 AM
     has no technical damages at all   

I hate when they have technical damage. lol
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: B5fourspeed on January 28, 2020, 08:32:24 AM
When they serviced the car I guess they changed the oil on a engine that doesn't exist.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: RUNCHARGER on January 28, 2020, 08:33:32 AM
I\m just happy it's been serviced. I expect to see 5 qts of oil and a new filter on the K-member when I pick the car up and pop the hood.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: soundcontrol on January 28, 2020, 08:46:56 AM
Don't forget  "The interior is in virtually spotless condition. The seats are clean and not torn" .  ;)
Driver seat look OK though.

I just wonder who's car this is and how the pictures got on there.
I tried a Google picture search (looks for the same pictures on the internet) and I could not find the picture anywhere else, usually they steal pictures from some site.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: 6pack on January 28, 2020, 02:38:35 PM
When I was in the market for my Cuda, I have seen many scams.  One time it happened to have an address in Philadelphia that I was familiar with and new right off on that scam.  But think if they only get one or two a year they golden.  I have Chevelles too and when I seen the price on the Chevelle for cheap I new double sure it was a setup.  That is why a reputable dealer is a good way to buy from if it is a far away deal.  A local Craiglist deal can even go bad.  Usually, unless your buy from widows and orphans if it sounds too good to be true it is.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: JS29 on January 29, 2020, 06:02:31 AM
To quote judge Judy, If something dose not make scents it usually isn't true!   :yes:
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: soundcontrol on February 16, 2020, 12:53:23 PM
Well, now when I found that Cuda to be a scam, it started a Cuda project craving that I can't get rid of.
And I just missed a few good ones that got sold.
What do you guys think I should pay for this one?
I might make an offer.
Barn find Gran Coupé, 318, 904, AC, never tampered with, slightly wrecked driver side front, rusty lower quarters, rust in trunk floor, pretty OK floor except a hole in the driver side. What I can see it need AMD panels for around 5-6k to begin with. OK interior, cracked dash.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: cuda hunter on February 16, 2020, 05:27:06 PM
fender tag?
build sheet?
original documentation?
Original color?
more pictures needed for a value assessment please. 
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: soundcontrol on February 17, 2020, 01:12:14 AM
Quote from: cuda hunter on February 16, 2020, 05:27:06 PM
fender tag?
build sheet?
original documentation?
Original color?
more pictures needed for a value assessment please.

Will get more pictures today if it dosen't get sold this afternoon. Some one else is looking at it today.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: cuda hunter on February 17, 2020, 06:32:18 AM
9k If it has it's tag and runs.  And isn't a rot box.  Just my uninformed opinion.  I'd jump at that price today. 
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: soundcontrol on February 17, 2020, 10:21:15 AM
It runs, but it might be a bit too much rust for my taste right now. I also have to add 4-4,5k for shipping and taxes since I'm on the other side of the planet...
As I can see it every outside panel has to be changed, pretty OK floor and under the car.

The one I just missed had no rust at all. around 20k, shipped and taxes paid.

Then I saw this one in Modesto, CA:
https://modesto.craigslist.org/cto/d/waterford-1970-plymouth-barracuda/7060237362.html
I thought I saw this on on this forum with a phone number, but I can't find it, when I click the phone number button I get an error. (could be a region thing).
(EDIT: Canadian Title, very hard to ship out of the US, I checked, so I'm not pursuing that one).

Pictures of the Gran Coupé:
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: soundcontrol on February 17, 2020, 10:23:01 AM
A few more. It did not sell today.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: anlauto on February 17, 2020, 10:54:32 AM
Love the interior and colour combo  :drooling:
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: HP_Cuda on February 17, 2020, 12:22:11 PM

Gee I wonder why it didn't sell.

Looks like this sucker might be out of Florida!!  :unbelievable:
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: soundcontrol on February 17, 2020, 12:53:36 PM
Quote from: HP_Cuda on February 17, 2020, 12:22:11 PM

Gee I wonder why it didn't sell.

Looks like this sucker might be out of Florida!!  :unbelievable:

It's in Sweden now, the asking price in the ad is 24k, the owner spent around 4k in shipping and taxes etc.
I figure its worth around 13-15k as it sits now.
Owner asked me to make an offer, but I'm not sure if I wanna deal with all that rust.
If I disassemble and sandblast that thing it might reveal lots of other rust areas.
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: JS29 on February 17, 2020, 12:59:07 PM
 :iagree: You could end up with Swiss cheese and floor sweepens!  :'(
Title: Re: 70 Cuda Roller - Scam?
Post by: soundcontrol on February 22, 2020, 03:28:31 PM
Back to the original Cuda in this thread, both the E-Autosmart website and the Verisign and Truste pages are gone now.
Hope they didn't scam anyone for money.

Found this also:
https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63504-eautosmart-traders-and-supporting-sites-i-wouldnt-trust-at-all/