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Title: let's talk headliner
Post by: 70vcodecuda on June 09, 2017, 08:21:17 PM
it's headliner time,  70 Cuda black perforated. looking for advice on quality and Vendor.
First time install wish me luck :help:
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Chryco Psycho on June 09, 2017, 08:38:45 PM
This a no brainer
Contact Dave @ Roseville he will get you the best quality part & with a site discount  :slapme5:
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Cuda Cody on June 09, 2017, 08:43:23 PM
We know you can do it!!!  It's not hard if you take your time.  It helps to have lots of little springs likethese:

https://www.harborfreight.com/1-inch-capacity-steel-spring-clamp-39569.html

Normally I get the headliner at the same time as the seats and I use legendary auto interiors.  I think @MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10)  sells them at a discount too.

http://www.legendaryautointeriors.com/14330/7071-BARRACUDA-5-BOW-HEADLINERBLACKFINE-PEMBROOK/detail.html

Also make sure you get the right bow count as they changed from 5 bows to 4 bows later.
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: 70vcodecuda on June 09, 2017, 09:13:30 PM
thanks for the reply's, I do need those seat covers as well :cheers:
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Cuda Cody on June 09, 2017, 09:41:42 PM
Seats are fun too.  If you're not in a hurry Legendary has sales a couple times a year.
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Burdar on June 10, 2017, 04:24:45 AM
I recently saw a video of how line workers installed a vinyl top. I think it was in an AMC plant. They made it look super easy. I couldn't believe how fast they got it done. It would be interesting to see how quickly the line workers were able to get the headliners installed.
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: GoodysGotaCuda on June 10, 2017, 07:49:10 AM
Following for any tips as well. I'll be giving it a shot too, I'm good with hard parts, soft parts are a little "iffy".


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Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Burdar on June 10, 2017, 07:54:59 AM
RestoRick has a good write up on his site...
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Cuda Cody on June 10, 2017, 08:09:32 AM
Good thinking Burdar.

http://www.restorick.com/tech/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5

I like to use the modern sound deadener on the roof instead of the old stuff.

Another tip (not sure if Rick covered this) is to put the screws in place BEFORE you put the headliner in.  That way when you go to put the seat belts, visors, mirror, ect... all you have to do is find the screw head, make a little cut and back the screw out.  Then it shows you EXACTLY where the screw needs to go back in.  Much easier then trying to find the holes where the screws go after the headliner is in.   :alan2cents:
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: GoodysGotaCuda on June 10, 2017, 12:48:36 PM
That's a really good tip !


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Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: MoparDave on June 10, 2017, 06:51:23 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on June 09, 2017, 08:43:23 PM
We know you can do it!!!  It's not hard if you take your time.  It helps to have lots of little springs likethese:

https://www.harborfreight.com/1-inch-capacity-steel-spring-clamp-39569.html

Normally I get the headliner at the same time as the seats and I use legendary auto interiors.  I think @MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10)  sells them at a discount too.

http://www.legendaryautointeriors.com/14330/7071-BARRACUDA-5-BOW-HEADLINERBLACKFINE-PEMBROOK/detail.html

Also make sure you get the right bow count as they changed from 5 bows to 4 bows later.



I can get you the Legendary Headliner and seat covers.just need to make sures yours isa 5 bow and what material.perfed or sold. DOyou need sailboards ? seat foams ?
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: 70vcodecuda on June 10, 2017, 08:36:57 PM
thanks for the reply Dave, yes it's 5 bows black perfed. I'll be in touch Monday :thankyou:
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: HUSTLESTUFF on June 12, 2017, 05:21:40 AM
Quote from: Burdar on June 10, 2017, 04:24:45 AM
I recently saw a video of how line workers installed a vinyl top. I think it was in an AMC plant. They made it look super easy. I couldn't believe how fast they got it done. It would be interesting to see how quickly the line workers were able to get the headliners installed.

There's a guy local to me that installed headliners at Dodge Main.  He said they had 9 minutes for the 2 guys to install them.  Had a bucket of glue with a brush hooked to his belt.  He said it took just under that time to do them.
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Burdar on June 12, 2017, 07:35:23 AM
QuoteThere's a guy local to me that installed headliners at Dodge Main.  He said they had 9 minutes for the 2 guys to install them.  Had a bucket of glue with a brush hooked to his belt.  He said it took just under that time to do them.

Good info! I think I've read before where each station had about 3 minutes to install their component before the car moved on to the next station.  9 minutes per car to install the headliner...they had to have had a lot of people installing headliners to keep up with all the cars coming in to that area.  Can't slow the line down.
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Shane Kelley on June 12, 2017, 09:31:00 AM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on June 10, 2017, 08:09:32 AM
Good thinking Burdar.

http://www.restorick.com/tech/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5

I like to use the modern sound deadener on the roof instead of the old stuff.

Another tip (not sure if Rick covered this) is to put the screws in place BEFORE you put the headliner in.  That way when you go to put the seat belts, visors, mirror, ect... all you have to do is find the screw head, make a little cut and back the screw out.  Then it shows you EXACTLY where the screw needs to go back in.  Much easier then trying to find the holes where the screws go after the headliner is in.   :alan2cents:
I wish I read the screw tip before I installed mine. Excellent idea. I had to do it the hard way. Still have my upper seats belt to go. I went with hood liner on the bottom of the roof. I was going to use the regular Dynamat but thought this might give a little more thermal insulation from the sun. Pricey stuff!
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: RUNCHARGER on June 12, 2017, 05:34:03 PM
That's what I use on my cars as well.
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Ornamental on June 14, 2017, 03:17:47 PM
I'd like to replace the dome light, which means the headliner has to come at least partially off.
Since all the holes are where they should be, would it mean it's not a lot of bother to put the headliner back once the new dome light and wires have been installed?
I'm feeling a little optimistic here, just wondering if that might be a bit overly optimistic?
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: RUNCHARGER on June 14, 2017, 05:05:46 PM
You can replace the dome light without disturbing the headliner. Pop the lense off and there are two screws there, Then you can pull it down a bit and undo the connector to it through a hole that is in the headliner.
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Shane Kelley on June 15, 2017, 03:37:53 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on June 14, 2017, 05:05:46 PM
You can replace the dome light without disturbing the headliner. Pop the lense off and there are two screws there, Then you can pull it down a bit and undo the connector to it through a hole that is in the headliner.
:iagree:
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Aar1064 on June 15, 2017, 04:14:56 AM
I just installed my headliner last weekend with help from a friend and just realized I forgot about the metal piece with the teeth in this pic. Sail panels are on and I see where this piece goes and realize that the rear panel screws to it but what are the teeth for?

Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Ornamental on June 15, 2017, 05:01:38 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on June 14, 2017, 05:05:46 PM
You can replace the dome light without disturbing the headliner. Pop the lense off and there are two screws there, Then you can pull it down a bit and undo the connector to it through a hole that is in the headliner.
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I want to replace both the dome light and the old wires so I can have new wires all over.
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Timbbuc2 on June 15, 2017, 05:15:12 AM
Really good tips
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Cuda Cody on June 15, 2017, 08:23:22 AM
The teeth brackets on the side hold the head liner down on the sides.  Just like the teeth in the front window area and around the back.

Quote from: Aar1064 on June 15, 2017, 04:14:56 AM
I just installed my headliner last weekend with help from a friend and just realized I forgot about the metal piece with the teeth in this pic. Sail panels are on and I see where this piece goes and realize that the rear panel screws to it but what are the teeth for?
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Shane Kelley on June 15, 2017, 08:32:29 AM
I would like to add that Cuda and Challenger are completely different. Cuda pictured below.
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Aar1064 on June 15, 2017, 05:07:49 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on June 15, 2017, 08:23:22 AM
The teeth brackets on the side hold the head liner down on the sides.  Just like the teeth in the front window area and around the back.

Quote from: Aar1064 on June 15, 2017, 04:14:56 AM
I just installed my headliner last weekend with help from a friend and just realized I forgot about the metal piece with the teeth in this pic. Sail panels are on and I see where this piece goes and realize that the rear panel screws to it but what are the teeth for?

Hmm. My headliner from legendary didn't hang down that far. I just glued it to panels on both sides. Hope I didn't screw something up..
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Cuda Cody on June 15, 2017, 05:51:14 PM
Headliners are pretty easy.  They're main function is to look good and as long it looks good, I'm sure it's fine.   :alan2cents:

Quote from: Aar1064 on June 15, 2017, 05:07:49 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on June 15, 2017, 08:23:22 AM
The teeth brackets on the side hold the head liner down on the sides.  Just like the teeth in the front window area and around the back.

Quote from: Aar1064 on June 15, 2017, 04:14:56 AM
I just installed my headliner last weekend with help from a friend and just realized I forgot about the metal piece with the teeth in this pic. Sail panels are on and I see where this piece goes and realize that the rear panel screws to it but what are the teeth for?

Hmm. My headliner from legendary didn't hang down that far. I just glued it to panels on both sides. Hope I didn't screw something up..
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Burdar on June 15, 2017, 08:29:28 PM
QuoteHmm. My headliner from legendary didn't hang down that far. I just glued it to panels on both sides. Hope I didn't screw something up..

Just to be clear, the orange car above is a Challenger.  The headliner in a Challenger goes all the way down to the rear interior panels.  A Cuda headliner doesn't go down that far and uses a vinyl wrapped sail panel in that area.
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Aar1064 on June 16, 2017, 04:20:48 AM
Quote from: Burdar on June 15, 2017, 08:29:28 PM
QuoteHmm. My headliner from legendary didn't hang down that far. I just glued it to panels on both sides. Hope I didn't screw something up..

Just to be clear, the orange car above is a Challenger.  The headliner in a Challenger goes all the way down to the rear interior panels.  A Cuda headliner doesn't go down that far and uses a vinyl wrapped sail panel in that area.

Ok I feel better now. Didn't make sense and now I know. Thanks Burdar.  :banana:
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Sleepychallenger on June 16, 2017, 04:32:32 AM
Is the silver stuff just there to block heat and noise? Ill be doing mine this fall.
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Shane Kelley on June 16, 2017, 05:31:44 AM
Quote from: Sleepychallenger on June 16, 2017, 04:32:32 AM
Is the silver stuff just there to block heat and noise? Ill be doing mine this fall.
:yes:
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: PLY474 on July 04, 2021, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: Burdar on June 10, 2017, 04:24:45 AM
I recently saw a video of how line workers installed a vinyl top. I think it was in an AMC plant. They made it look super easy. I couldn't believe how fast they got it done. It would be interesting to see how quickly the line workers were able to get the headliners installed.

This may be it.  AMC vinyl top install with free disco.  Time 6:42
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: anlauto on July 04, 2021, 07:18:51 PM
 :twothumbsup:  That's pretty cool, they make it look easy  :brainiac:
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: cardudeporn on August 19, 2021, 06:07:31 PM
Please let me know if it is better to reply to old posts or start something new

Trying to put in new headliner, actually Cindy is doing most of the inside stuff, and we were doing great (should have read screw hint earlier) until she got to the sail panel area.  She says nothing feels or looks right.  If she hooks around window area and then tries to pull sides it unhooks up by window

Did any of you make a video by chance?  step by step photos?

We thought the headliner was one part we wouldn't have to change as it was a new one and looked great.  I was feeling for the seat belt bolt holes and found a dead MOUSE so it had to go! (car had been stored in a shed for 11 years Headliner was only interior part in it)

Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: roguedc72 on March 29, 2022, 07:29:40 AM
I made the mistake of not putting a bolt in for the shoulder belt, now I'm studying pics of body shells and guessing where to poke a hole in my new headliner!
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Mr Lee on March 29, 2022, 08:36:21 AM
Quote from: PLY474 on July 04, 2021, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: Burdar on June 10, 2017, 04:24:45 AM
I recently saw a video of how line workers installed a vinyl top. I think it was in an AMC plant. They made it look super easy. I couldn't believe how fast they got it done. It would be interesting to see how quickly the line workers were able to get the headliners installed.

This may be it.  AMC vinyl top install with free disco.  Time 6:42


What the hell??!! They're spray painting the cars without a mask / respirator?!?!  OMG
Cool video!  Groovy music too. 
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: anlauto on March 29, 2022, 08:41:00 AM
Quote from: roguedc72 on March 29, 2022, 07:29:40 AM
I made the mistake of not putting a bolt in for the shoulder belt, now I'm studying pics of body shells and guessing where to poke a hole in my new headliner!

@roguedc72 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/roguedc72_1043) what type of car ? I have a Cuda here without a headliner in it, I can take some measurements for you  :dunno: :takepicture:
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Challenger in NC on March 29, 2022, 10:39:15 AM
Quote from: Mr Lee on March 29, 2022, 08:36:21 AM
Quote from: PLY474 on July 04, 2021, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: Burdar on June 10, 2017, 04:24:45 AM
I recently saw a video of how line workers installed a vinyl top. I think it was in an AMC plant. They made it look super easy. I couldn't believe how fast they got it done. It would be interesting to see how quickly the line workers were able to get the headliners installed.

This may be it.  AMC vinyl top install with free disco.  Time 6:42


What the hell??!! They're spray painting the cars without a mask / respirator?!?!  OMG
Cool video!  Groovy music too.

Yeah, I noticed that too about no respirator, makes you wonder how their health was later on breathing in all those paint fumes. Fantastic video.
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: Dakota on March 29, 2022, 12:50:50 PM
I tried the link to Restorick's info on headliners but got a server error message.   Does anyone happen to have a copy of what he posted?   Or do I have to have a username and password for his site to access the info?
Title: Re: let's talk headliner
Post by: 7E-Bodies on March 29, 2022, 05:31:07 PM
I'd like to know this myself, even though I'd probably not attempt it.