This photo was posted in our Facebook group by Jeff Gutshall. Here's what is left of the Phantom Cuda.
Wow...it looks like they just cut off the important bits
Not unlike a certain 71 hemi convertible... basically a whole new car built around a cowl.
On that Hemi convertible I would think that they found a nice solid shell and simply cut the numbers off the old one and then butt welded those sections to the new shell. AKA REBODY.
Where did they find that phantom car?
I think it was found in a wrecking yard? :notsure:
Quote from: Shoooter on July 06, 2017, 08:01:58 AM
Where did they find that phantom car?
Quote from: Cuda Cody on July 06, 2017, 08:12:47 AM
I think it was found in a wrecking yard? :notsure:
Quote from: Shoooter on July 06, 2017, 08:01:58 AM
Where did they find that phantom car?
It was dug out of a grave...didn't you see the first episode :haha:
At least it wasn`t up on barrels! :pokeeye:
Quote from: torredcuda on July 06, 2017, 11:31:40 AM
At least it wasn`t up on barrels! :pokeeye:
:newfoundland:
here's a pre-Graveyard Carz pic & a recently un-Earthed pic
When I was at Darren's house he showed me where they buried it for the show. I remember thinking, why did you bury a car just to dig it out? :Thud:
If that was the original paint it looks like it wasn't a Billboard car like it is now....still curious about the Argent grill, maybe it was built around the time of the truck accident with the load of painted bumpers I read about.
I was wondering about the early history of that car. Some one here was telling me they thought the car was around the Boise area for a while. He thought he saw a Firebird raceway sticker (the local drag strip) in the 1/4 window in an earlier photo. I noticed the car has Oregon plates on it. Does anyone know where the car is from??
Quote from: 76orangewagon on July 06, 2017, 12:29:14 PM
If that was the original paint it looks like it wasn't a Billboard car like it is now....still curious about the Argent grill, maybe it was built around the time of the truck accident with the load of painted bumpers I read about.
The best I remember the Billboard was added at the request of the new owner.
Quote from: Cuda Cody on July 06, 2017, 12:21:18 PM
When I was at Darren's house he showed me where they buried it for the show. I remember thinking, why did you bury a car just to dig it out? :Thud:
You went to Darren's house? Cool maybe, lol. I'd guess they buried it for ratings, it is after all a TV show.
Quote from: EV2RTSE on July 03, 2017, 03:33:46 PM
Not unlike a certain 71 hemi convertible... basically a whole new car built around a cowl.
Is this the one that sold at Barrett Jackson a few yrs. ago for $1 mil? If so when is the line drawn between real and clone?
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Quote from: EV2RTSE on July 03, 2017, 03:33:46 PM
Not unlike a certain 71 hemi convertible... basically a whole new car built around a cowl.
Is this the one that sold at Barrett Jackson a few yrs. ago for $1 mil? If so when is the line drawn between real and clone?
I had that same exact question. When is the line drawn between a rebody and saying it's original? Seem like there isn't really a line drawn in the sand on that topic. While most might agree that something is or isn't a rebody without an exact measure of what is or what isn't it's just speculation and opinion. Personally I think there should be a standard to what is considered a rebody. Either saying you must have these specific parts of the body or saying you have to at least have X percentage of the original body. Makes the survivors and originals more rare and worth more imo.
A 71 hemi vert that was basically a rebody built around a cowl is an insane price at 1 million (assuming more of the original wasn't part of it). But someone thought it was worth that price and paid it. But then again I'm just your average joe, and I don't have that kind of money and likely never will.
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A 71 hemi vert that was basically a rebody built around a cowl is an insane price at 1 million (assuming more of the original wasn't part of it). But someone thought it was worth that price and paid it. But then again I'm just your average joe, and I don't have that kind of money and likely never will.
Well, I think the purple 71 Rag sold for over one million. It's history is well known that's why it went so cheap compared to other 71 Hemicuda convertibles that sell in the three million range. :alan2cents:
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A 71 hemi vert that was basically a rebody built around a cowl is an insane price at 1 million (assuming more of the original wasn't part of it). But someone thought it was worth that price and paid it. But then again I'm just your average joe, and I don't have that kind of money and likely never will.
Well, I think the purple 71 Rag sold for over one million. It's history is well known that's why it went so cheap compared to other 71 Hemicuda convertibles that sell in the three million range. :alan2cents:
Speaking of the history of this car. How does one put a car back in the system/road that was stolen, cut up and a partial piece found on an Indian reservation in Canada? I think that's how the story went .
Quote from: MoparJunkie on July 11, 2017, 04:50:09 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Child on July 11, 2017, 04:40:06 PM
Quote from: EV2RTSE on July 03, 2017, 03:33:46 PM
Not unlike a certain 71 hemi convertible... basically a whole new car built around a cowl.
Is this the one that sold at Barrett Jackson a few yrs. ago for $1 mil? If so when is the line drawn between real and clone?
I had that same exact question. When is the line drawn between a rebody and saying it's original? Seem like there isn't really a line drawn in the sand on that topic. While most might agree that something is or isn't a rebody without an exact measure of what is or what isn't it's just speculation and opinion. Personally I think there should be a standard to what is considered a rebody. Either saying you must have these specific parts of the body or saying you have to at least have X percentage of the original body. Makes the survivors and originals more rare and worth more imo.
A 71 hemi vert that was basically a rebody built around a cowl is an insane price at 1 million (assuming more of the original wasn't part of it). But someone thought it was worth that price and paid it. But then again I'm just your average joe, and I don't have that kind of money and likely never will.
I think its a fine line but discernable line.
If you are replacing body panels, frame rails etc. on a rusted out hulk, I think you have a hard time saying that is a rebody.
If you are taking pieces from one car, vin numbers or the larger parts of the body that contain the vin number, and placing those on a different / better car, that IMHO is a rebody, and likely illegal.
One is a car that once existed and has been fixed, the other something that was one thing and now represented as something else.
The purple convertible from the Indian reservation is the grey area...if it was documented that everything was built out from that cowl, I think there is an argument that it is not a rebody. There would not be any of the other VIN stampings on the car, which as documented impacts the value of the car. THat and the history of the car is know.
If you take the existing vin stampings from that cowl and transplanted them to a different car, then I think you have a rebody.
:alan2cents: and yes :deadhorse:
Jason
Quote from: Voodoo Child on July 11, 2017, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: anlauto on July 11, 2017, 04:57:45 PM
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A 71 hemi vert that was basically a rebody built around a cowl is an insane price at 1 million (assuming more of the original wasn't part of it). But someone thought it was worth that price and paid it. But then again I'm just your average joe, and I don't have that kind of money and likely never will.
Well, I think the purple 71 Rag sold for over one million. It's history is well known that's why it went so cheap compared to other 71 Hemicuda convertibles that sell in the three million range. :alan2cents:
Speaking of the history of this car. How does one put a car back in the system/road that was stolen, cut up and a partial piece found on an Indian reservation in Canada? I think that's how the story went .
I'm sure the car still had a title...