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Title: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: 72and86 on August 14, 2023, 11:47:54 AM
1970 BS23 'Cuda
Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs.
I'd like to replace the interior lights and exterior bulbs but NOT the headlamps.
I would like the turn signals, parking lights and brake lights to be brighter LEDS. Can I replace those with having to replace the flasher? In my C3 Corvettes I had to replace the flasher with a hybrid, in order for the LEDs lights to function properly.
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: Katfish on August 14, 2023, 12:31:46 PM
You will need a LED flasher.
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: 70vert on August 14, 2023, 01:14:34 PM
I swapped all my interior and exterior to LED from Super Bright. Not done the headlights yet but want to. I also bought a flasher from them but interestingly it worked without it, and when I did install it the turn signals would not flash so I swapped it back out to the original. Still that way, so far so good.
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: Mrbill426 on August 14, 2023, 01:33:19 PM
@70vert (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/70vert_4548) , being curious, what #LEDs fit the dome light and the dash light bar?


Quote from: 70vert on August 14, 2023, 01:14:34 PM
I swapped all my interior and exterior to LED from Super Bright. Not done the headlights yet but want to. I also bought a flasher from them but interestingly it worked without it, and when I did install it the turn signals would not flash so I swapped it back out to the original. Still that way, so far so good.
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: 70vert on August 14, 2023, 01:46:36 PM
Haha, mine is a Vert so no dome. I'll have to check what the other numbers were but their site should show everything you need.

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Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: MoparCarGuy on August 14, 2023, 04:32:00 PM
This chart will assist you with converting to LED from incandescent bulbs.
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: Mrbill426 on August 15, 2023, 09:19:05 AM
@70vert (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/70vert_4548) oh, yeah, duh, "vert" should have been my first clue  :looney:
Thanks


Quote from: 70vert on August 14, 2023, 01:46:36 PM
Haha, mine is a Vert so no dome. I'll have to check what the other numbers were but their site should show everything you need.

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Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: Mrbill426 on August 15, 2023, 09:21:07 AM
@MoparCarGuy (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/moparcarguy_1103) that should help a lot, thanks!
:bigthumb:

Quote from: MoparCarGuy on August 14, 2023, 04:32:00 PM
This chart will assist you with converting to LED from incandescent bulbs.
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: 72and86 on August 15, 2023, 10:22:28 AM
The pic is mostly unreadable (too small). Can you send that to my email illstudio@snet.net
thx
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: 72and86 on August 15, 2023, 10:24:02 AM
Quote from: Katfish on August 14, 2023, 12:31:46 PM
You will need a LED flasher.

And the flasher is located...?
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: Jay Bee on August 15, 2023, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: 72and86 on August 15, 2023, 10:22:28 AM
The pic is mostly unreadable (too small).
Even if you download it to your PC.
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: anlauto on August 15, 2023, 10:41:52 AM
I think you'll have grounding issues with some of the LED bulbs... :pullinghair:
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: 70vert on August 15, 2023, 11:22:44 AM
The flasher is under the dash right by the steering column. I did not have any grounding issues (I think) but can see how that is possible since many of them don't have positive+negative feeds.

Here is the link for the LED bulbs I used, you can change the year if yours is not a '70.

https://www.superbrightleds.com/vehicle/?find=1970-dodge-challenger-6823393
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: Deezel on August 15, 2023, 11:27:44 AM
Here's a bigger copy of the chart. It's on Classic Industries website - https://news.classicindustries.com/restoration-tips/mopar-lighting-guide-bulb-charts/ (https://news.classicindustries.com/restoration-tips/mopar-lighting-guide-bulb-charts/)

(https://i.imgur.com/OJIck2j.jpg)
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: Rumple on August 15, 2023, 11:56:38 AM
Here's the spreadsheet I put together. I bought from superbright. They do have a vehicle bulb finder (https://www.superbrightleds.com/vehicle) on their website which helped and I cross refenced that with the chart from the classic industries catalog. The green dash illumination bulbs, front parking, side markers, taillights, and reverse bulbs all swapped in without issue. Flashers I got from classic industries. I did have to use the polarity gadget with the turn signal flasher. Haven't replaced the hazard flasher yet.

My trunk light was added later and it was from another mopar (m-body maybe). In my case this trunk light used the same bulb as the map light. You may want to double check what you have in this case so you don't order the wrong bulb. All the exterior bulbs fit fine in my 1970 Gran Coupe
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: Rumple on August 15, 2023, 12:01:18 PM
Left is red LED, Right is clear incandescent. LED is on/off where incandescent seems to flash in a "warm up/cool down" manner. LED is brighter which is what I wanted.
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: 70vert on August 15, 2023, 12:06:31 PM
FYI: I initially bought all clear LED bulbs (thinking they'd be the brightest) but then replaced them with red/rear and amber/front colored ones and like them way better.
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: 72and86 on August 15, 2023, 12:29:16 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 15, 2023, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: 72and86 on August 15, 2023, 10:22:28 AM
The pic is mostly unreadable (too small).
Even if you download it to your PC.

Yes. I couldn't read it the first time you posted it and I was on a 27" iMac! Download or on the post it was reduced too small.
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs Flasher Locations & Polarity
Post by: MoparCarGuy on November 29, 2023, 04:25:03 PM
Reference for hazard and turn signal flasher locations & how to change polarity on your turn signal flasher when using LED bulbs.

See picture for locations. The polarity can be changed by removing the small fused pigtail harness for the turn signal flasher at the ashtray location. Use a small pick or jeweler's screwdriver to release both the RED and BLACK brass female blade connectors and swap their locations. Instant polarity change without purchasing an adapter. $ saved. You may find that you need to use an electronic flasher that has a separate ground lead (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BBWLY8XD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1). Just ground it to the dash frame and your turn signals should work properly.
Title: Re: Replacing LED interior and exterior light bulbs
Post by: bc3j on December 11, 2023, 07:50:10 AM
Might consider a neutral polarity turn signal flasher. Don't have to change the factory wiring at the plug. I ground mine at the ash tray frame. Still use the factory hazard flasher as it still flashes, but slightly slower.