Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals, Nov 19th and 20th
The 13th all indoor show devoted to the country's finest Muscle Cars, Dealer-built Supercars and Corvettes. "The Center of the Muscle Car Universe" says Muscle Car Review magazine. Over 500 prime examples of American Muscle. Wings Over America, Class of 1967 Invitational, Class of '72 Invitational, Maple Leaf Muscle: A Salute to Canadian Muscle, Malaise Era Muscle, 1973-1987 Invitational, Performance Wagon Invitational, Corvette Central Triple Diamond display and competition and more.
Also featuring Vintage Certification for unrestored originals and our fun Barn Finds and Hidden Gems along with Muscle Bicycles, Mini Bikes and automotive only vendors. Held at the Donald E. Stephens Convention Center in Rosemont, IL. Minutes from Chicago's O'Hare Airport.
Title Sponsor; Mecum Auctions, Presenting Sponsor; Bill Stasek Chevrolet.
Info @ (586) 549-5291 or bashton426@gmail.com. www.mcacn.com
Check out pictures from last years event at (https://www.mcacn.com/2021-gallery)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51699795677_0e10f91a2e_b.jpg)
What's this all about exactly ? "Maple Leaf Muscle: A Salute to Canadian Muscle" :canada:
I probably should stop by there since I'm sponsoring the Malaise era muscle display. :thinking:
A friend of mine has one of the ultimate special Canadian muscle cars. Its a 68 Pontiac Parisienne convertible, 4 speed, 427.
I tried to get him and his wife to enter the car, and they'd love to have it there, but they spend October through May at their winter home in Hawaii so can't.
Oh well....
I am having better luck with my Malaise era display. We have around 25 cars registered so far! I think 8 are Mopars.
The only make I'm having trouble recruiting is Chevies. A collector is bringing 2 or 3 low mile Z28s. If anyone knows anyone with a very nice Cosworth Vega, V8 Monza, Laguna S3 or X11 that would be interested in entering to be in this display please let them know! I never thought I'd be saying I need some Chevys, but I do!
At Moparty a few weeks ago, Ryan and I talked to a guy displaying a never titled unrestored '69 Charger Daytona, it was always owned by the original dealer. We got him to sign up for the show so it will be there!
Here is a link to the MCACN page showing the invitational displays
https://www.mcacn.com/invitational-displays
Another interesting car slated for the Canadian cars display is a '71 Swinger 340. This one is a freshly restored purple example!
Can't wait for this show ! This will be my first year attending and can't wait to check out all these beautiful cars . This show sounds like it could an OVERLOAD of information . I'm a little nervous about all the unloading and loading of the cars , sounds like controlled kayos .
I may have to turn this into a yearly trip . :woohoo:
The loading and unloading process is pretty well organized so don't worry too much about it!
The biggest issue that seems to happen a few times every year is a few people will drive their rigs into the hall, unload their car, then disappear for a couple hours with their rig sitting there getting in the way.
Please don't do that! Get the car where it's directed to, then go get the rig out and to the marshaling yard to park it. There's a shuttle bus that will bring you back to the hall promptly. Then you can detail your car, chat with all your old and new friends, look at other cars, etc.
For leaving Sunday evening, trying to load up in the hall can take a while to get your rig in. The best trick to getting out quickly is to stage your rig outside west of the hall (on the other side of River road) a few blocks away. Then drive your car out and to your rig, load up on the street, and you're on your way. You can be on the road in 30 minutes or so after they open the doors and say cars can leave, as opposed to several hours if you try to load inside.
For those not on the mailing list, the show preview magazine just came out last week. Here's a link to the e-version!
https://online.fliphtml5.com/juqbu/bibw/#p=1
Quote from: johnshotrods on October 30, 2022, 07:31:39 PM
Can't wait for this show ! This will be my first year attending and can't wait to check out all these beautiful cars . This show sounds like it could an OVERLOAD of information . I'm a little nervous about all the unloading and loading of the cars , sounds like controlled kayos .
I may have to turn this into a yearly trip . :woohoo:
as you should - I do! :twothumbsup:
Quote from: JH27N0B on October 30, 2022, 07:54:10 PM
The loading and unloading process is pretty well organized so don't worry too much about it!
The biggest issue that seems to happen a few times every year is a few people will drive their rigs into the hall, unload their car, then disappear for a couple hours with their rig sitting there getting in the way.
Please don't do that! Get the car where it's directed to, then go get the rig out and to the marshaling yard to park it. There's a shuttle bus that will bring you back to the hall promptly. Then you can detail your car, chat with all your old and new friends, look at other cars, etc.
For leaving Sunday evening, trying to load up in the hall can take a while to get your rig in. The best trick to getting out quickly is to stage your rig outside west of the hall (on the other side of River road) a few blocks away. Then drive your car out and to your rig, load up on the street, and you're on your way. You can be on the road in 30 minutes or so after they open the doors and say cars can leave, as opposed to several hours if you try to load inside.
For those not on the mailing list, the show preview magazine just came out last week. Here's a link to the e-version!
https://online.fliphtml5.com/juqbu/bibw/#p=1
Thanks for clarifing that , that will help calm my nerves . Unfortunately mine will be in the barn find section and will have to be pushed to its spot along with the engine on a stand . I was asked to bring it just the way i found the car so I'll bring help . did get my magazine last week and looks like some VERY interesting cars on tap .
Well if nothing else, the Barn Finds area is pretty close to the overhead door in back where the rigs all enter the hall. They'll direct you off to the side to unload and you shouldn't have to move your car and engine more than a couple hundred feet at the most to where it will be exhibited.
Another thing to know if it will make your life easier at the end, is that you can load up Monday morning to miss out on the Sunday evening rush to get out.
Ryan aka AutoArcheologist here runs the barn finds feature so he can give you more detailed advice on your setup and departing process.
My display I found out will be fairly close to the exit overhead door.
We have about 30 cars signed up for it, and thanks to one of my Mopar buddies George who spotted a nice Laguna S3 at a show in the far west burbs in early October and got the owners contact info for me, I did get it signed up and hopefully the bowtie crowd won't feel too slighted, as for some reason Chevies were the only make I had trouble recruiting. :notsure:
My first go and organizing a display, I'm pretty excited!
Quote from: johnshotrods on October 30, 2022, 07:31:39 PM
Can't wait for this show ! This will be my first year attending and can't wait to check out all these beautiful cars . This show sounds like it could an OVERLOAD of information . I'm a little nervous about all the unloading and loading of the cars , sounds like controlled kayos .
I may have to turn this into a yearly trip . :woohoo:
What car are you bringing ? :popcorn:
Quote from: anlauto on October 31, 2022, 05:35:33 AM
Quote from: johnshotrods on October 30, 2022, 07:31:39 PM
Can't wait for this show ! This will be my first year attending and can't wait to check out all these beautiful cars . This show sounds like it could an OVERLOAD of information . I'm a little nervous about all the unloading and loading of the cars , sounds like controlled kayos .
I may have to turn this into a yearly trip . :woohoo:
What car are you bringing ? :popcorn:
I'll be bringing my 1970 V code Cuda numbers matching car i picked up in may of this year . It was stuffed in a 1 1/2 car garage for 30 plus years .
Quote from: johnshotrods on October 31, 2022, 06:58:45 AM
Quote from: anlauto on October 31, 2022, 05:35:33 AM
Quote from: johnshotrods on October 30, 2022, 07:31:39 PM
Can't wait for this show ! This will be my first year attending and can't wait to check out all these beautiful cars . This show sounds like it could an OVERLOAD of information . I'm a little nervous about all the unloading and loading of the cars , sounds like controlled kayos .
I may have to turn this into a yearly trip . :woohoo:
What car are you bringing ? :popcorn:
I'll be bringing my 1970 V code Cuda numbers matching car i picked up in may of this year . It was stuffed in a 1 1/2 car garage for 30 plus years .
Hey there, welcome to Barn Finds! I can not wait to see your car in person!
Unloading and loading is very easy with the Barn Finds. You'll be in the last group for unloading. You wait in the line for your assigned time. You roll in, drop near Barn Finds and we try to roll you basically right to your spot.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51698377297_8a1dba4ccd_c.jpg)
I know Brad posted this, but here is the new MCACN Magazine, it goes into more depth about everything going at the show.
https://online.fliphtml5.com/juqbu/bibw/#p=1
If you have any questions, let Brad or I know and I'd be happy to help. Or if you are really concerned drop me a DM and we can talk on the phone or such.
A bit of advice to those planning to attend. BUY YOUR TICKET ONLINE!!!. The lines to purchase tickets at the door seemed endless and almost not moving. I was there for the first and only time in 2019 and bought tickets online as a "minor" convenience. Wow...was I ever glad. I was enjoying the displays within two minutes.
Planning to go again this year. Any chance of an E-Bodies.org meet-up? Perhaps stick-on name tags with the club logo?
Quote from: 7E-Bodies on October 31, 2022, 10:06:19 AM
A bit of advice to those planning to attend. BUY YOUR TICKET ONLINE!!!. The lines to purchase tickets at the door seemed endless and almost not moving. I was there for the first and only time in 2019 and bought tickets online as a "minor" convenience. Wow...was I ever glad. I was enjoying the displays within two minutes.
Planning to go again this year. Any chance of an E-Bodies.org meet-up? Perhaps stick-on name tags with the club logo?
We have added more ticket lines, so this should not be issue this year.
After a few years of covid hiatus I'm looking forward to being there as well! As part of the Mr. Norm's display I'll be bringing my survivor '71 Hemi Challenger 4-speed, easy to spot with its unique day-2 lift-off fiberglass hood. But I also helped kickstart the Maple Leaf Muscle display, dedicated to all musclecars manufactured in or originally shipped to Canada. We've got a killer collection of cars arranged for this display, I think you'll be astonished to see all the great stuff our friends from up north ordered from new. For this display I'm bringing out my FM3 '70 440-6 Charger R/T SE 4-speed, one of one known to exist and ordered by Western Dodge in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, along with my FJ6 '71 Hemicuda 4-speed ordered by Norvan Plymouth/Chrysler of Vancouver for the owner who lived in Smithers, BC. While I'm not floating around I'll likely be at one of these two displays, stop by and say Hi!
- Wade
I wish I was going, if not to check out your cars, I would love to catch up with you Wade...I haven't been there since the Hemi convertible display.... :'(
Quote from: 7E-Bodies on October 31, 2022, 10:06:19 AM
Planning to go again this year. Any chance of an E-Bodies.org meet-up? Perhaps stick-on name tags with the club logo?
Kevin,
If you have any EBO "swag" (shirt, hat, etc.) to wear it helps people find you. I've had people tapping me on the shoulder saying "I see you're wearing an EBO shirt ... I'm so-and so". Perhaps I'll see you there??
I,m so excited to get there that I loaded up early today . Now its sit and wait . It's always nice to put a name to a face , excited to meet some of you in person . :handshake:
:crying: i can't go this year so many fantastic Mopar !!!
Only about a week to go until the big show!
I was at the employee meeting last weekend and Bob said the show is shaping up to be a great one.
Between the Wing car main feature display when you first enter which has 22 Superbirds and Daytonas in it, Wellborns aero feature and a couple wing cars in Barn Finds, there are supposed to be around 40 wing cars on the floor! :unbelievable:
Also right in front when you first enter the hall will be the black hemi cuda convertible that was recently purchased after being squirrelled away in storage by the original owner since 1978. Word on the street is that the buyer paid $4M for that car. It's heading off for a full restoration after the show ends, I believe to Apex, so maybe it will be making another appearance next year freshly concours restored.
I'm eager to see what cars are in the Mr Norms tribute display too.
I normally work the stage area over the weekend but this year I'll be at my Malaise era muscle display for the show. My idea for a display originally was envisioned to be 15 to 18 cars, but the idea got a lot of enthusiasm from the collector car crowd and really took off , and when the dust settled last month we ended up with over 30 cars lined up. Stop by and check it out, as the famous line from the classic Monty Python's Flying Circus show went, "and now for something completely different"!
It certainly is for me, though no worries, E bodies are still my first love and I'm not jumping ship. Just expanding my car passion into some new areas to learn about and have fun with. :)
Here is my "disco boy" car that will be in the display.
Educate ne...What years does the Malaise Era cover ? I've never heard that term before :thinking:
What type of cars are included in your 30 ?
$4M for a car needing restoration ? What's a fully restored one worth these days ? $3M? :))
The way high end muscle car values have been going lately, that triple black 4 speed hemi cuda convertible will probably be worth 1 billion dollars when its done. :looney:
The "malaise era" is generally considered to be '73-'83, when gas shortages, smog motors and 5 mph bumpers were causing the big 3 a world of hurt.
Sometimes the end of the era is cited as '87, as that is when the despised 55 mph national speed limit was repealed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaise_era
The cars of the time have mostly been looked down on with few exceptions (like Trans Ams). But they still mostly had the same basic chassis as the cars of the 60s and early 70s. They were RWD V8s. So it didn't take a lot of effort to wake them up, with headers, a cam, a new manifold and cam.
Many cars of this era like Monzas and Aspens can still be found every weekend bracket racing at just about every dragstrip.
But otherwise most of these cars have disappeared and become like unicorns you rarely see.
We've got cars like a '73 Grand Am, '74 GTO (the only year the GTO was on the Nova platform), a very cool orange King Cobra Mustang, a 6 figure rotisserie restoration of a '77 Can Am, one or two Supercoupes, 2 '75 Roadrunners (the only year roadrunner on that body style), several prototype or factory car show display type cars (like the '80 Magnum Mirada), and of course my 1 of 861 '78 Magnum GT.
All pristine examples as is the standards of MCACN (except the Barn Finds display of course).
Every year there are a 100s of cars like hemi cudas, Superbirds, Yenko Camaros, L88 Corvettes, Ram IV Pontiacs, Shelbies, and the like at this show.
Though those museum pieces never will get boring, the malaise display is something a little out of the ordinary and I think it will get a lot of attention.
Thank you, sounds interesting, and I agree, people will likely walk right by a Hemicuda to see something different :twothumbsup:
Honestly my Magnum seems to get more attention at local shows and cruises than my Challengers.
I like to be the only one at an event with a certain kind of unusual car.
It's the 180 degree opposite of owning a Fox body Mustang or late model Vette, the proverbial feet of the car world (everyone's got 'em).
This display has 30 cars like that, with the exception of a '79 Trans Am. It's not unusual to see a late 70s Trans Am, at least the one in the display isn't black.
But pretty much all the rest of the cars we have lined up will be unicorns or near unicorns!
A 1973 Grand Am ! Boy its been awhile since i seen one of those . I remember when the Grand Am and the Laguna came out , needless to say I was stunned and thought the muscle car world was GONE FOREVER !
:rubeyes: LOL
Hey all , Not sure where to post this but I have an extra room for friday and saturday night across from the convention center . A couple of our friends cant go so if someone on here knows of someone needing a room we could work something out .
Its to late to cancel the reservation or I would .
i hope they'll never restore the hemi cuda !if it's original paint that would be a big mistake !!!
Quote from: johnshotrods on November 15, 2022, 07:00:55 AM
Hey all , Not sure where to post this but I have an extra room for friday and saturday night across from the convention center . A couple of our friends cant go so if someone on here knows of someone needing a room we could work something out .
Its to late to cancel the reservation or I would .
Room is no longer available .
I was at the show setup yesterday. Another great year in store.
Yes I've taken some pictures, but unfortunately it'll take some time to get them organized and uploaded into Flickr albums so I don't have them to share now.
Since starting working from home my work laptop and monitors takes up my desk. I've been using my iPads for 95% of my personal computer needs, and my old laptop gathers dust.
One of the few personal use things I did on the work computer was uploading my pictures, but early last summer they changed to a different security system, and I then found Flickr is now blocked. :pullinghair: :verymad:
So instead of spending a half hour throwing an album together I have to set up my old laptop on a table in my living room and fight with that wheezing and moaning 12 year old Thinkpad. Now takes 2+ hours to do what took a fraction of that on my work PC. And my blood pressure goes up 20 points in the process. Time to retire and get my desk back, and buy a newer laptop as a retirement gift to myself!
The hemi cuda convertible is there, but covered to be unveiled Saturday morning.
There must be more wing cars than have ever been at a show before. I heard 40 were registered.
The Superbird that got a lot of press recently after being blasted out of its garage ad heavily damaged by the hurricane storm surge is there on display by an Illinois shop tasked with restoring it.
There's also a bunch of Charger 500s.
And of course some e bodies!
I can't wait for your pictures, always enjoy them....thank you for putting the albums together :worship:
I was excited to see this video yesterday on the feature display I put together.
Kudos to you for all your hard work putting that great group of cars together :clapping: :clapping: :worship: :worship: Awesome display :ohyeah:
Only cars missing were the Volare Road Runner and Aspen R/T , My favorites :dunno:
Quote from: 7E-Bodies on October 31, 2022, 10:06:19 AM
A bit of advice to those planning to attend. BUY YOUR TICKET ONLINE!!!. The lines to purchase tickets at the door seemed endless and almost not moving. I was there for the first and only time in 2019 and bought tickets online as a "minor" convenience. Wow...was I ever glad. I was enjoying the displays within two minutes.
Planning to go again this year. Any chance of an E-Bodies.org meet-up? Perhaps stick-on name tags with the club logo?
Well I took your advice ... and the complete opposite happened!! The pre-paid ticket line was loooooooooooooong; snaking through the lobby and almost out the door!! Meanwhile, the day of show ticket booths were only 2-3 deep. Go figure?? :looney:
Sorry I missed you Kevin ... I was wearing my EBO shirt and was hoping you would have flagged me down ... maybe next year?? :yes:
Quote from: JH27N0B on November 20, 2022, 04:44:02 AM
I was excited to see this video yesterday on the feature display I put together.
Congratulations Brad!! I thought your display was outstanding!! It's not often ... if ever ... that you see a collection of cars from that era on display. Most gearheads seem to just want to forget that time even existed!! But it DID exist and at the time those cars were the "best" that you buy new. I thought it was a fun display to revive those long suppressed memories of that inglorious era!! :ohyeah:
Quote from: chris NOS on November 16, 2022, 12:25:16 PM
i hope they'll never restore the hemi cuda !if it's original paint that would be a big mistake !!!
I was lucky enough to be present during a discussion on this very subject between Darryl Wischnewsky (the new owner) and several prominent convertible owners. Darryl had Apex Autosports "clean it up" for the show. Forget all of those dusty pics you may have seen when it was pulled out of the garage - it cleaned up really nice and looks GREAT!!
So what will he do with his new convertible?? I don't know. By his own admission, Darryl said he prefers "restored cars." To kind of emphasize that point he also had his recently acquired black over white '71 HemiCuda on display - fresh off a concourse restoration by Apex. Darryl is acutely aware of the originality of his new convertible and as he said during his discussion with the other owners "it is a bit of a dilemma for me now isn't it??" We'll have to wait and see what he does, but whatever he does, it's his prerogative to do so.
Quote from: RzeroB on November 20, 2022, 01:31:59 PM
Quote from: chris NOS on November 16, 2022, 12:25:16 PM
i hope they'll never restore the hemi cuda !if it's original paint that would be a big mistake !!!
I was lucky enough to be present during a discussion on this very subject between Darryl Wischnewsky (the new owner) and several prominent convertible owners. Darryl had Apex Autosports "clean it up" for the show. Forget all of those dusty pics you may have seen when it was pulled out of the garage - it cleaned up really nice and looks GREAT!!
So what will he do with his new convertible?? I don't know. By his own admission, Darryl said he prefers "restored cars." To kind of emphasize that point he also had his recently acquired black over white '71 HemiCuda on display - fresh off a concourse restoration by Apex. Darryl is acutely aware of the originality of his new convertible and as he said during his discussion with the other owners "it is a bit of a dilemma for me now isn't it??" We'll have to wait and see what he does, but whatever he does, it's his prerogative to do so.
Did he pay 4 MILLION for it ?
You gotta love when people make videos for all of us to enjoy.... however it's funnier when it seems the guy has no idea of what he's filming. :rofl: :rofl:
Yep, that is pretty embarrassing! Hope he didn't get paid for that :haha:
just home from MCACN & here's a few pics to hold "US" over until Brad's pics drop 8)
one of the few Mr. Norm's convertibles - a '70 440 4bbl R/T
a ~5,000-mile Mr. Norm's '71 4-speed HEMI R/T
the Texas "KING KONG" 4-speed hemi'cuda convertible
a '71 hemi'cuda hardtop at Tom's "'cuda club" Saturday evening party
and a pair of FJ6 "sassy grass" '71 hemi'cudas
you may recognize the color but not the car ..... a "special order paint" factory 1970 Oldsmobile W30 automatic 442 convertible in Dodge's "PLUM CRAZY" :unbelievable:
a surprise of the weekend .....
the 1985 Muscle Car Review SHOOTOUT cars: a HEMI Plymouth GTX (couple owners in the past 37 years) & STAGE I Buick GS (same owner)
:takealook: the only production ponycar FoMoCo put a 427 into: a RARE (1 of ~356) 1968 Cougar GTE :wowzers:
Thanks for the pictures Dan, great to hear Tom is still doing the parties, I remember being blown away when I was there years ago...great guy :drinkingbud:
Wasn't that plum crazy Olds something? Or should I say wasn't it crazy?
I sometimes step on my fellow Mopar enthusiasts feet saying I've seen so many FC7 cars in my 40+ years in the hobby that I don't care if I ever see another one. Well I take that back, a GM someone just had to have in a Chrysler hue fascinated me!
Though wasn't there a special order color on a batch of late 60s B bodies that was a GM color, maybe it was Omaha orange?
I survived the weekend. Took almost 500 pictures and I'll need to fight my wheezing old Thinkpad to get my Flickr albums together.
I got to meet Ralph Giles yesterday and he posed with me by my car which was one highlight.
I survived only a little worse for wear. As did my car.
I had a friend trailer it since I was concerned about salt on the roads. When we got home last night he got it out and I got in and found a plastic tab for the 6 way power seat broken off.
I think his foot kicked it contorting himself into it to get it out.
For some reason he doesn't believe in side escape doors on his trailers. :dunno:
I worked on my pictures this afternoon.
Here are the setup days pictures-
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111914442@N04/albums/72177720303945124
And the big show-
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111914442@N04/albums/72177720303955213
Thank you for posting fantastic photos :australia:
Its nice to see the malaise era cars getting some love. There were still some cool looking cars in that era.
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Thanks Brad, as always awesome pictures and much appreciated :worship: :drinkingbud:
I had an amazing uncle that used to sell those new at Peoria Lincoln Mercury (Illinois). As an 8-9 year old, I got many thrilling rides in these. Great memories from a great guy.
Thanks for posting the pictures Brad. The display of cars that you put together was very cool also
Thank you for the photos!
Quote from: 6bblgt on November 20, 2022, 09:48:18 PM
:takealook: the only production ponycar FoMoCo put a 427 into: a RARE (1 of ~356) 1968 Cougar GTE :wowzers:
A friend of mine used to own a '67 fastback Mustang with a side oiler in it. Not Original?
Quote from: dodj on November 24, 2022, 01:37:11 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on November 20, 2022, 09:48:18 PM
:takealook: the only production ponycar FoMoCo put a 427 into: a RARE (1 of ~356) 1968 Cougar GTE :wowzers:
A friend of mine used to own a '67 fastback Mustang with a side oiler in it. Not Original?
correct - ZERO factory built 427 Mustangs
Ryan's article on the Mopars at MCACN just dropped today.
https://moparconnectionmagazine.com/gallery-winged-mopars-invade-mcacn-2022/