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Title: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: ledphoot on October 26, 2021, 11:05:28 AM
As I start working on the interior of the car / finishing the electrical side of things I am pondering some additions / upgrades:

1) Power Windows
2) Remote Door Locks
3) Keyless ignition

I haven't driven a car with Crank Up windows in forever and reaching over to the passenger side to roll the window down isn't quite as easy as it was when I was a teenager with 8% body fat :)

The IDidIt steering column came with a GM key and they have a keyless ignition solution called touch-n-go which replaces the ignition locking integrates with door looks etc., using RFID like modern cars to gain access and start the vehicle.

On the surface this sound appealing / cool. But I also see how this adds unnecessary complexity to the car and increases the number of things that can go wrong.

What do you guys think?

Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: gzig5 on October 26, 2021, 11:15:03 AM
I don't need the keyless ignition part but I'll be going with power windows and locks for the reason you stated.  If the keyless comes along for the ride, more the better.  My 2020 Ram has it and I get spoiled not pulling the key out of my pocket.  I think doing it integrated all in one from a single vendor would minimize the risk.  And I'll of course let you work out the bugs.  :burnout:
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: Filthy Filbert on October 26, 2021, 12:21:09 PM
sounds interesting.  Does anyone make an aftermarket power window conversion for these cars? or do you have to source original or remanufactured parts?

Keyless entry/ignition would be neat, but not something I'm interested in.   I like having a featureless toy.    My daily driver has the power windows, seats, locks, mirrors, etc.   I don't need it for the toy that I drive occasionally.     In fact, that's what attracted me to my Dakota so much.  It essentially had 1 option: V8.   Everything else was base model stuff.     Manual windows, locks, mirrors, seats...  In an era where AC was pretty much a "standard option" my truck left the factory without AC.   Same deal on cruise control.    The truck did have a couple small options, which may have been part of 1 package.  Things like the fog lights, premium AM/FM CD player sound system with the additional tweeters and external amp.      V8.  Manual transmission, and no other options makes for modern day muscle car....er, I mean truck.
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: ledphoot on October 26, 2021, 12:38:08 PM
Nu-Relic makes a nice set of power regulators..

https://www.nu-relics.com/Mopar-s/477.htm

I am really on the fence on the whole thing, part of me wants the simplicity.. Another part of me likes the convenience. Just to be clear I have gone through a lot of struggles with fitment of aftermarket parts and I am leaning towards not doing it. KISS principle. It is an idea I will likely get over.
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: ledphoot on October 26, 2021, 12:40:48 PM


Here is a comparison of the two major players in the aftermarket power window gittups for e-bodies (and others)
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: anlauto on October 26, 2021, 01:21:40 PM
I bought the Nu-Relic set up for my convertible, haven't installed it yet of course :ohyeah:
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: ledphoot on October 26, 2021, 01:27:18 PM
Quote from: anlauto on October 26, 2021, 01:21:40 PM
I bought the Nu-Relic set up for my convertible, haven't installed it yet of course :ohyeah:

What switches are you going to use Alan? How difficult is the wiring?

The main reason I am considering this is it would be a lot easier now the. If I put the car all together and wanted to do it later.

Thanks

Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: anlauto on October 26, 2021, 01:43:15 PM
I went with the "nostalgic" switches...I'm pretty sure. :thinking:

The instructions are pretty vague, so much so, that I called the hot rod shop that I bought them from to confirm.....

Believe it or not there only two wires to hook up GROUND and POSTIVE ...you can choose full time live, or key operated live.

That's it....the kit's wiring is all self-contained from that point. :dunno:
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: ledphoot on October 26, 2021, 01:45:22 PM
Interesting.. I could still literally go either way on this. Ugh. You didn't make my decision easier ;)

But thanks for the input!

Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: Mopsquad on October 26, 2021, 01:57:18 PM
It's a hoot when I have a young passenger and they don't know how the crank windows go down.  Kinda like the rotary phone.
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: anlauto on October 26, 2021, 02:01:27 PM
Quote from: Mopsquad on October 26, 2021, 01:57:18 PM
It's a hoot when I have a young passenger and they don't know how the crank windows go down.  Kinda like the rotary phone.
:haha: :haha: :haha: YUP...took my 17 year old daughter out in that black Challenger I just finished...she was like WHF? :looney:
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: dodj on October 26, 2021, 03:30:13 PM
Window cranks are all part of the 'ebody experience' in my opinion. Keep crankin'!

Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: ledphoot on October 26, 2021, 03:32:11 PM
Quote from: Mopsquad on October 26, 2021, 01:57:18 PM
It's a hoot when I have a young passenger and they don't know how the crank windows go down.  Kinda like the rotary phone.

I have an box of old tech stuff out in the garage and my nephew was blown away by my Sony Walkman and cassettes. He thought damn you lived in the dark ages, I can just ask Alexa to play whatever song I feel like hearing any time I want.

Then I setup my turntable and introduced him to The Dark Side Of The Moon... LoL...
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: GoodysGotaCuda on October 26, 2021, 06:18:33 PM
I did a lot of modern upgrades on my car, but I have no interest in power windows, remote locks or keyless ignition personally. If there were factory retrofits that had solid components and factory reliability, maybe.

I haven't recovered the seats yet, but I will go ahead and add heated seats to the front, easy enough and very effective at keeping your core warmer. I do wish I had gone with an electric power steering retrofit, less fluids and such to deal with.


Quote from: ledphoot on October 26, 2021, 11:05:28 AM
As I start working on the interior of the car / finishing the electrical side of things I am pondering some additions / upgrades:

1) Power Windows
2) Remote Door Locks
3) Keyless ignition
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: dodj on October 26, 2021, 06:27:14 PM
Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on October 26, 2021, 06:18:33 PM
but I will go ahead and add heated seats to the front
You live in Texas and want heated seats?!?  :clueless:
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: chargerdon on October 26, 2021, 11:29:55 PM
I put a power seat track into the drivers seat of my 74 Challenger.   It was a ton of work since the normal MINIMUM height of the power seat track is at least a full inch higher than the manual seat track.   To save my headroom had to modify the fitting so that the track recessed into the seat itself.   

I used a track from i think a 90's Grand Cherokee seat track, because it was cheap.   Bought one that all of the motors and switch worked but had a broken frame for i think only $25 off of ebay.   Welded up the frame and it works well...allows my 5'5" wife to drive the car and see.. 
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: larry4406 on October 27, 2021, 04:05:12 AM
Quote from: anlauto on October 26, 2021, 01:21:40 PM
I bought the Nu-Relic set up for my convertible, haven't installed it yet of course :ohyeah:

When the time comes, please document all of the details of this.
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: larry4406 on October 27, 2021, 04:08:08 AM
Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on October 26, 2021, 06:18:33 PM
I did a lot of modern upgrades on my car, but I have no interest in power windows, remote locks or keyless ignition personally. If there were factory retrofits that had solid components and factory reliability, maybe.

I haven't recovered the seats yet, but I will go ahead and add heated seats to the front, easy enough and very effective at keeping your core warmer. I do wish I had gone with an electric power steering retrofit, less fluids and such to deal with.


Quote from: ledphoot on October 26, 2021, 11:05:28 AM
As I start working on the interior of the car / finishing the electrical side of things I am pondering some additions / upgrades:

1) Power Windows
2) Remote Door Locks
3) Keyless ignition

Please start a thread for your heated seats installation.  I would like to add heated seats to my 71 convertible.
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: GoodysGotaCuda on October 27, 2021, 12:46:03 PM
Quote from: dodj on October 26, 2021, 06:27:14 PM
Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on October 26, 2021, 06:18:33 PM
but I will go ahead and add heated seats to the front
You live in Texas and want heated seats?!?  :clueless:
Ponds froze over in Feb. I don't like to be cold. Ever!


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Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: 70vert on October 27, 2021, 02:51:44 PM
Although I drive mine often it is not my daily (have a JGC for that) so not that interested in convenience features. And since it doesn't stay outside I just leave the windows down 99% of the time. I'm also not sure about electric start, kinda enjoy hearing it fire up  :yes:

But it would make the car more unique to have some modern tech in it.
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: torredcuda on October 28, 2021, 03:18:12 AM
Very few of my daily drivers have had all the "bells and whistles", usually due to money/price of new vehicle but I really don`t care for too much anyways - just more things to go wrong. I do like the basic options - automatic. a/c, crusie control, power locks and windows, all the others I consider nice but not neccesary. My Barracuda is far from a daily only seeing a couple thousand miles a year in nice weather so there are really not many convenience options I would want in it, power windows would be nice so I could control the passenger one while driving but I wouldn`t bother with a/c as we don`tget that many really hot days here in New England. No interest in adding remote entry, power/heated seats or anything else like that.
Title: Re: Modern touches, should I bother? More to go wrong?
Post by: JpRngr on October 28, 2021, 08:56:48 PM
I put power windows and remote entry/locks in my Challenger. Really nice to be able to roll all the windows up or down from the driver's seat. I went with the XV Racing/NuRelics kit. Not difficult at all to install. The door locks is just another nicety that I've become accustomed to with my daily driver, so why not?

Modern niceties make the car more enjoyable. There's a reason on most cars now adays, it's standard equipment.