First, love the show. Love the cars and love the attention to detail. I am conflicted though. Just like the effort put into some of these amazing cakes on those shows. What happens when I start to drive the car or eat the cake? All the markings, the paint daubs, the sheen of the undercarriage paint. It's amazing but temporary or, it's a prison sentence for the car. Meaning it risks losing (without doubt) the cleanliness and beauty of the details. Or, it stays off the street. My own car, which I purchased 2 years back has all these finer details - the marks, the daubs, the soon-to-be lost stickers and tags. It was a $185k build which I became the beneficiary of the Hemi clone market downturn when I purchased.
Just throwing it out there, I love the details of these builds but it's like the 10k wedding cake. It doesn't last.
I've done motorcycle restorations. Some of them are complete "frame offs" and some of them are "refurbishments".
Refurbishment ones are infinitely more enjoyable.
There's one "Frame off" that I did is still sitting in the corner in the garage under a cover. Haven't seen it in 2 years.
Some people like trophy pets, I guess.
When you bought a brand new Hemi Cuda convt. in 1970 you drove it off the lot whether it was raining, sunny or snowing. I see it the same way today. Drive it and enjoy it. If you want to touch up the undercarriage in five years just do it and it will be good again.
I know a few guys with 30 or 40 cars they never drive and I honestly do not know what enjoyment they get out of it.
When I decided that after 40 years of wanting one, I was going to buy a '70 Cuda(BS) I couldn't find one. But I did find a Barracuda(BH) with every Cuda item possible on it. Looking back on it, I'm very happy that I didn't find my numbers matching dream car. Because this one I drive every time I get a chance.
Quote from: Racer57 on August 31, 2018, 05:43:26 AM
When I decided that after 40 years of wanting one, I was going to buy a '70 Cuda(BS) I couldn't find one. But I did find a Barracuda(BH) with every Cuda item possible on it. Looking back on it, I'm very happy that I didn't find my numbers matching dream car. Because this one I drive every time I get a chance.
I agree with this sentiment. I got back into Mopars for the driving experience and to enjoy the car. Certainly not for the modern amenities. I can't afford a graveyard cars level of refurb, but even if I could I would drive it every chance I got and live with the consequences. Really depends on what your priority is, competitive show car or driver. If both, you need two cars.
The older I get the more I realize life is to short so enjoy everything while you can. The cars are going to be sold off when your dead. So I'm going to drive them and if something happens I'll fix it and keep having fun with them. It's your car, your money if just looking at it makes you happy that's really all that matters. The next owner will love you for it. LOL
:iagree: Drive and enjoy them, and if you do the chips and dings are inevitable so don't worry about it. Besides, trailers are for boats!
There's a guy down here in Puerto Rico with a low miles, fully restored, Plum Crazy Hemi 4 speed Roadrunner that only goes to shows if he can back the trailer up to his parking spot to unload it. He won't even drive it through the venue to get to his parking spot. He built a 70 Satellite with a Hemi and 5 speed in Sassy Grass that he uses for donuts, smoke shows, getting the groceries etc. He probably hasn't put 100 miles on the Plum Crazy one in the last 5 years but the other one gets driven like it's stolen.
It's nice to be able to have multiple cars for different types of enjoyment, rather than trying have a one size fits all. I always liked messing around with my T/A, working on it and such. But for various reasons I didn't like driving it extensively in the area I live. Manual steering, poor ventilation, 3.91 rear, and exhaust fumes filling the interior while sitting in traffic etc. So I bought my Challenger convertible and happily found I'd made a perfect choice. Whether sitting in traffic or heading down the highway I'm always enjoying it.
I'm not comfortable making real long hauls though, 350-500 mile drives to out of state shows type uses. So I have in mind building a long haul car someday, with an updated FI engine, AC, maybe 4 wheel disc brakes.
Your results will vary and everyone is different. That's where I get irritated with people who seem committed to judging how others should use their cars. I get grief from some people at times. "If I had your T/A I'd drive the wheels off it!" Well, buy a stiff rear end manual steering hot car and knock yourself out Mr wonderful! I'll give you thumbs up while I'm stuck in traffic next to you behind the wheel of my vert! Restorations, resto mods, drivers, rat rods, customs, even Donk, there is a wide variety of niches in the car hobby and all gear heads should be celebrated, not criticized because they don't meet a "my way or the highway" criteria! :cheers:
You bring up a good point. A few decades ago there were less cars on the road and when I went somewhere in the Mopar it was generally moving fast and not terribly worried about texting drivers and sitting in traffic jams. These days it is mostly plugging along in heavy traffic and on edge every second that some soccer mom in her SUV is going to sideswipe my car during an important call.
Still though if the car doesn't leave the garage unless on a stretcher I don't want to own it.
:thinking: I'm thinking there is a place for all of it. I sure like seeing them on the road and at shows and even in museums and I even dream of finding one in a barn someday :yes: :banana: The only place I don't like seeing them is in the "Wrecked and Mangled Mopar" thread. :stop:
I go to multiple cruise every week during our too short ~4 month cruise season. And participate in a handful of car shows. But I'm not comfortable driving a rare vintage ride in any daily driver type situations. 20 years ago, I'd drive my convertible to work 29 miles one way, once in a while. I was driving out toward the boonies, and after 5 or 6 miles, the rest of the drive was semi rural and OK. My office area overlooked the lot and I'd go to the window every now and then to look out and see if my car was safe! I'm a worrier.
I've got people at work now who ask why I never drive it to work. I've got a 26 mile commute in heavy crazy Chicago area highway traffic and honestly I'd rather rip my fingernails off with pliers than drive my Challenger in that zoo! Plus I can't see my car in the parking garage and would worry all day.
A gear head kid at my work drives his vintage cars a lot, including to work often. He lives 10 miles away. He bought a very cool '39 Dodge businessman coupe last year. On the 4th of July, he drove it to a friends 4th of July block party. While socializing at the party, some 14 year old punk shot fireworks at his car and damaged the original paint. They are going to try to repair the paint but it might need to be completely repainted. Things like that are what I really worry about.
It's hard to let go and just drive it, especially if you have a strong attachment both in sweat hours and financially. Hard to see those investments compromised via road trauma and the possibility of accidents.
Also, parts wear down and break, some of which are hard to replace. Ex. date coded parts. Do you just take those off and replace with generic? Then you lose the authenticity you can drive more comfortably.
You either accept it or you don't.... The Challenger I currently drive & have for over twenty years was basket case, I restored it to a high level, reproduced all the markings, had stamps created back when it wasn't nearly as common as today.... Lots of NOS parts, there wasn't nearly as much reproduction stuff available then & I really didn't want to use reproduction parts anyway.... Every gap & body line was worked to perfection... I started the engine for the first time in late July of 96, next day it when in for exhaust, alignment & VIN verification... Then it went to have the convertible top installed..... August 22 I drove it 500 miles down to Las Vegas for the first (and last) Pacific Nationals show by the time the weekend was over I'd put over 1500 miles on the car... At this point it's up around 95,000 miles...... Why would you do all that work & not use it?
I was talking to the owner of a '69 Hemi Superbee, last week, about this very thing. He was selling his car at Mecum, Monterey. It was perfect, restored by Badalson some ten years ago. In that time, he has put a total of TEN miles on the car! His advice to me was to keep my car at the clean driver level and enjoy it the way it was meant to be enjoyed. He said that is the best of both worlds. He said he was ready to move on and seemed to be tired of being a prisoner of the car. It sold for $110,00.00.
Quote from: Mopsquad on August 31, 2018, 11:08:18 AM
It's hard to let go and just drive it, especially if you have a strong attachment both in sweat hours and financially. Hard to see those investments compromised via road trauma and the possibility of accidents.
Also, parts wear down and break, some of which are hard to replace. Ex. date coded parts. Do you just take those off and replace with generic? Then you lose the authenticity you can drive more comfortably.
I love driving my cars.. I do complete nut bolt restorations on my cars. I love it. More so then driving the cars. But I will and do drive them. I do as much attention to detail as when the car was new. BUT I draw the line in NOS suspension part and parts that wear for that manor. I don't want that in the back of my head. Worried about wearing big dollar parts out. That don't make sense. :alan2cents:
Plate on the Charger... Last 426..... Great pictures! Thanks!! Yes we do have a pretty good climate for driving here but if you drive allot your still gonna get wet..... Worst drive was coming home from Bakersfield pouring down rain & somewhere ahead of me a truck hauling chickens was slowly losing it's load.... Imagine moderate traffic, pouring rain & trying to slalom around the chicken bombs..... Car was only done for a couple years at that point.... I was a little tweaked but soap & water fixed the car right up.... Well six hours under the car with a scrub brush, soapy water & a pressure washer helped...
The car has been caught in heavy rain on seven occasions... Never very close to home.... Well, I've left home heading to Spring Fling twice when it was raining....
Oh, then there's the heavy fog.... Scary but if it's between you & where you want to be what are ya gonna do?
Oh, make that eight times, I forgot about the Wine & Walnuts cruise...... Absolutely pouring down rain.... We had 23 cars including a couple guys in Cobras (no roof) & a 64 Vette convertible also no top.... I was initially pleased to see so many guys willing to get their cars a little wet, but when the heavy stuff started coming I felt really bad for the guys with no roofs....
Not a fan of major restoration. You kinda become a slave to the car. Imagine getting a chip, dent, or scratch. The cars were meant to be driven fast and hard. Even raced. Honestly, the cars wern't even all that great out of the factory. It's a shame that prices are so high and people squirrel them away. Just glad I was able to get mine well before the market went nuts.
Tom
I bought raffle tickets last year for winning a modern Hellcat and an ultra rare numbers matching 1970 hemi challenger. It even came with $$$ to cover taxes if you won. If I was fortunate enough to win this raffle I decided that I would sell the 1970 Challenger since I would NEVER be comfortable driving such a rare car and I refuse to own a garage queen / show piece. Some people are in to that and that's cool.. I want to drive my muscle cars :)
I've owned several original Hemi cars and I've driven every one of them. They're just a car and insurance will fix a fender bender just like on a newer car too. I do admit though I would whip a new Hellcat like a rented mule every chance if I owned one.
I probably shouldn't reply to this thread. If you're seriously worried about driving your car because you're going to wear out date coded parts, you should just sell it. Cars are meant to be driven. Fix it, drive it, fix it, drive it, repeat until you're too old to fix it or drive it, or both. If you're worried about date coded parts wearing out sell your car and take up stamp collecting or something, that crap belongs in museums.
I've put about 70k miles on my Challenger so far. Sure, am I in the process of replacing the floors, parts of frame rails, quarters, roof, etc? Yes, yes I am. And most of that was a rusty mess when I bought it, I still drove it that much. And when I've finished the metal work I'll go right back to driving it- in the rain, in the snow, in the mud, whatever. If that means in 20 years I'll have to do the floors and frame rails again, so be it. I'm over 15k miles on my Duster, it's my daily driver. Yes it's loud, no it doesn't have AC, yes I still drive it when it's 108, it's my only working car so it's my primary transportation, not a weekend fair weather toy. Manual 16:1 steering, manual disk brakes, 4 speed with a kevlar/ceramic clutch, heck it's even got a .060" over 340 in it that's going to need 8 sleeves the next time it gets rebuilt, just a good excuse to go stroker. Drive it or sell it. If the reasons why these cars are so awesome have become your reasons NOT to drive them (hot, loud, smells, maintenance, etc), then maybe it's time to sell.
Loved you video.... I was expecting a flooded area that needed crossing..... BTDT in my Challenger..... I would have turned around but it was on one of our group drives & the guy in the lead crossed.... So I crossed... And the next guy hesitated but crossed...
Interesting thread and responses. After I sold my '09 Challenger and got things straightened out financially
I wanted to go back to an original muscle car. Mopar of course. After months searching for a car I thought to myself, I don't want a garage queen.
I want to drive it. My '71 was restored to an very acceptable condition ( in my opinion)with
a big block which is what I wanted. Engine, transmission, rear all Mopar but not original to the car. Doesn't matter to me because
it won't sit in my garage for 360 days a year and I didn't buy it as an investment. I bought it to have some fun driving it not looking at it. Sure I worry about the idiots out there
smacking into me but as stated above that's what insurance is for. At 59 and health issues I want to go out with a smile on my face knowing
that I went full circle. My first muscle car I bought at 16. 1965 GTO BB 427.
This will be my last muscle car....Full circle. :alan2cents:
Interesting thread and not the responses I was expecting... But interesting read none the less.
My take is that regardless of brand or model, all car guys and girls have their cars for their personal reasons. I remember building several cars and then realizing that I didn't give a shit about the car and selling it. My point is that sometimes the journey is better then the destination... yeah a bit cliche' I know.
But I am in this dilemma right now. I have a 1968 Hemi GTX that needs... well what it needs is tough to say since the debate will be created. So what I know for sure is that it needs new paint... the previous owner painted it in the early 80's and to be fair, it's awful. From 20' it looks decent, but once you get on it, it really shows how bad the prep work was. The interior is the one thing that needs NOTHING, it is immaculate.
That said, I am conflicted with how far I go with this restoration. For now, it is sitting and waiting while I wrap up two other projects. But whatever I do, I promise you this... I will drive the shit out of it. My last GTX was a garage queen and I vowed to myself that I would NEVER do that again.
Yup: I lived that. My 66 Hemi Coronet had acceptable paint from 20 feet but it was poorly painted in the 70's and had a bad repair on the right door. I wanted to paint it but these days if you paint a Hemi car it means doing the bottom too and getting all the details right over the whole car. I chose to drive it and I found as time went on the "Mopar" guys that poo-pooed it when I first owned it started to appreciate what the car was all about. I personally own my cars for myself and not others though and I just kept bringing the car out whether anyone appreciated it or not. However I did find that I wouldn't even bother to clean it up before a show just to really tick off the finger pointers.
I think that is why the hobby has pretty much died where I live. The big Mopar show here has a very poor turnout IMO for the amount of cars that I know are squirreled away. If guys bring out their non perfect iron and hear a few negative comments from the experts they end up not bringing them out at all.
These nut and bolt shows (including auctions) can be very influential. I feel indirectly they have influenced the garagization of a lot of Mopars. Years ago, even with the 90's classic car boom, we drove them more. The outstanding restorations and the beautiful appearance on television of Mopars has pushed many in permanent garages and off the street.
That's an excellent point and a new word to add to my vocabulary, "garagization". I know there was only one original Hemicuda, at Mecum, Monterey, and it was mine, out in the parking lot! You've gotta drive 'em!
Quote from: Mopsquad on September 13, 2018, 01:25:21 PM
These nut and bolt shows (including auctions) can be very influential. I feel indirectly they have influenced the garagization of a lot of Mopars. Years ago, even with the 90's classic car boom, we drove them more. The outstanding restorations and the beautiful appearance on television of Mopars has pushed many in permanent garages and off the street.
But is it wrong if the owner wants to "garage" his or her restored Mopar?
Let me ask this way... Does it bother you IF that is what they want to do?
For me, I will say that it does bother me a little because car shows are now filled with late model mustangs, camaros, challengers, and corvettes. Nothing wrong with those cars (to each their own) but I want to see what you restored... and not on-line.
Nope: Not at all, Everyone should enjoy their car in whatever way makes them happy. The only downside I see is that shows shrink and I like to see nice cars in person. The only way to see a lot of these cars is if you know the owners and go see them where they sleep. I miss the days when you would see these cars every day, however that will never be repeated.
Now I may get flamed for this :) As we age such as the classic car owner demographic has aged, we are more responsible and conservative. With that comes less chance taking, less impulse driving, less road tripping regardless of the conditions. More appreciation and value of our investment. Hence keeping it in the garage more and off the road. Of course this is arm chair psychology with absolutely no statistically significant data to back it up. LOL
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I actually enjoy driving the 73 more today than I did when I first got it back in '04...
Not only is it a LOT safer to drive from new brakes, tires, belts, u-joints, suspension components, frame fixes, bushing replacements, subtle upgrades, connector corrections, electrical upgrades, and tire, exhaust, interior corrections... but it just plain FEELS better knowing all the weak points have been minimized and all the corrections and improvements were accomplished by me (with a little help from my friends here)... and it just drives and handles so much better as well...
Yes, there's more risk driving today (due to cell phones, IMO), but that risk is the same whether I'm driving the Cuda or my other daily driver. The Cuda is the hands down winner if choosing which one I want to take out today...
Now my better half... different view altogether.... LOL
Very interesting read and I am amazed no one has flamed GYC yet
Quote from: Morty426 on September 15, 2018, 04:31:25 PM
Very interesting read and I am amazed no one has flamed GYC yet
To be completely honest, I know some people really hate the show... I cannot speak to the quality of the builds, however I will say that I wonder if the critics of the quality reference the older builds vs. the newer builds.
I just took my '69 convertible on a 11 hour drive this weekend to 9000'. Yes things broke, yes we fixed them, and hell yes we had a good time!
As for the show, I love it! There will always be some that nitpick every little thing about the way they restore cars, and Mark gets annoying at times but so do my kids.
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Quote from: 303 Mopar on September 17, 2018, 07:47:28 AM
I just took my '69 convertible on a 11 hour drive this weekend to 9000'. Yes things broke, yes we fixed them, and hell yes we had a good time!
As for the show, I love it! There will always be some that nitpick every little thing about the way they restore cars, and Mark gets annoying at times but so do my kids.
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Thats awesome!
As soon as I'm done my EFI and AC on my vert I'm getting one of these and taking my GF cross country.
The Barracuda should be able to handle it
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I enjoy the GYC show and the craftsmanship put into these old cars. Its amazing what can be saved these days. Makes me think of all the cars I saw in junk yards back in the 1980's, some with desirable combinations. If some of them were put away back then, but who would have thought...
There is a need for durable coatings that better replicate some of the natural steel finishes, black oxide, etc. Many want to restore their car as close to OEM as possible, but also drive the cars. To leave something in a natural finish means flash rust very quickly. Flat clears might be an option. Most rattle can paint chips way to easily. You almost have to be able to mix and spray 2K paint to find a balance for protection and drivability. The alternative is to powdercoat what you can for durability even if it is not "technically" correct. But then again base clear paints and perfect panel gaps were never something that came with these cars.
Quote from: PLUM72 on September 17, 2018, 08:24:26 AM
I enjoy the GYC show and the craftsmanship put into these old cars. Its amazing what can be saved these days. Makes me think of all the cars I saw in junk yards back in the 1980's, some with desirable combinations. If some of them were put away back then, but who would have thought...
There is a need for durable coatings that better replicate some of the natural steel finishes, black oxide, etc. Many want to restore their car as close to OEM as possible, but also drive the cars. To leave something in a natural finish means flash rust very quickly. Flat clears might be an option. Most rattle can paint chips way to easily. You almost have to be able to mix and spray 2K paint to find a balance for protection and drivability. The alternative is to powdercoat what you can for durability even if it is not "technically" correct. But then again base clear paints and perfect panel gaps were never something that came with these cars.
Natural finishes can be protected with RPM - works pretty damn good.
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Very interesting read and I am amazed no one has flamed GYC yet
To be completely honest, I know some people really hate the show... I cannot speak to the quality of the builds, however I will say that I wonder if the critics of the quality reference the older builds vs. the newer builds.
I have only seen the older episodes as I got rid of cable TV about 3 years ago. I have seen some of the older cars and they are terrible and I have seen one of the newer cars and it was pretty good. Not OEM but good enough for 99% of the people out there.
Quote from: Morty426 on September 17, 2018, 09:56:27 AM
Natural finishes can be protected with RPM - works pretty damn good.
For how long ?
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Quote from: Morty426 on September 17, 2018, 09:56:27 AM
Natural finishes can be protected with RPM - works pretty damn good.
For how long ?
I have parts that I did at least 5 years ago and still holding up but this might also be a condition of where I live.
Yea I think there is a lot of variables when it comes the longevity of products like that. :alan2cents:
Quote from: anlauto on September 17, 2018, 01:42:33 PM
Yea I think there is a lot of variables when it comes the longevity of products like that. :alan2cents:
Also I use way more than the directions call for
Wish they would give a cost breakdown like Wheeler Dealers does. I love most of the restorations, but I have a feeling some are north of $100K.
Quote from: madmax2b on September 17, 2018, 03:21:10 PM
Wish they would give a cost breakdown like Wheeler Dealers does. I love most of the restorations, but I have a feeling some are north of $100K.
Yes, I'd love to see the bill too!
Does anyone else simply watch GYC and other car based shows as an access to TV based entertainment that is not a music, dance, singing, dating, fighting, survival, etc... based competition based show.
I swear my DVR is setup to watch all of these shows,I like some more than others for various reasons, but mostly because they speak to me as a person who loves cars.... and they are NOT fill in the blank got talent.
I think the deadline based car fix it/restoration shows have had their moment. I guess they served a purpose and did offer some suspense to the show, maybe to attract the non car audience.
Not my cup of noodles anymore.
Quote from: Mopsquad on September 18, 2018, 11:15:08 AM
I think the deadline based car fix it/restoration shows have had their moment. I guess they served a purpose and did offer some suspense to the show, maybe to attract the non car audience.
Not my cup of noodles anymore.
I don't like the imposed deadlines either. What do you watch then?
I just watched the new one on Netflix, not sure the name, but their "deadlines" were absolutely ridiculous......"we only have a week to build this car"......yea right :crazytalk:
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I just watched the new one on Netflix, not sure the name, but their "deadlines" were absolutely ridiculous......"we only have a week to build this car"......yea right :crazytalk:
LOL, I have spent months getting a car ready for paint.
It's just entertainment. I find fault with all the shows but just watch them for fun anyways. GYC is about Mopars so it's fun to watch for that, I mute the dialogue. I would enjoy a show with in depth metal shaping and welding, painting etc. They would not get alot of other viewers though.
The one reality show that is pretty realistic is Highway through hell. I've run the Coq. a few winter seasons and it's just as they show it on T.V. complete with a lot of "drivers" who don't know how or when to put chains on.
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Quote from: Mopsquad on September 18, 2018, 11:15:08 AM
I think the deadline based car fix it/restoration shows have had their moment. I guess they served a purpose and did offer some suspense to the show, maybe to attract the non car audience.
Not my cup of noodles anymore.
I don't like the imposed deadlines either. What do you watch then?
I do enjoy Wheeler Dealers and Fantomworks. WD, has the resale angle as its hook which is fine. FW, has some overreactive hyperbole from Dan but maybe that's just the way he is. Both shows are totally enjoyable and informative.
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Quote from: Mopsquad on September 18, 2018, 11:15:08 AM
I think the deadline based car fix it/restoration shows have had their moment. I guess they served a purpose and did offer some suspense to the show, maybe to attract the non car audience.
Not my cup of noodles anymore.
I don't like the imposed deadlines either. What do you watch then?
I do enjoy Wheeler Dealers and Fantomworks. WD, has the resale angle as its hook which is fine. FW, has some overreactive hyperbole from Dan but maybe that's just the way he is. Both shows are totally enjoyable and informative.
I find entertainment in them all for varying reasons. But FW is great because I think they set realistic expectations of restorations when they show the number of days that go by and how long it can take to do the work. However, you are correct, Dan gets overly excited and creates drama in the weirdest ways.
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Quote from: Mopsquad on September 18, 2018, 11:15:08 AM
I think the deadline based car fix it/restoration shows have had their moment. I guess they served a purpose and did offer some suspense to the show, maybe to attract the non car audience.
Not my cup of noodles anymore.
I don't like the imposed deadlines either. What do you watch then?
I do enjoy Wheeler Dealers and Fantomworks. WD, has the resale angle as its hook which is fine. FW, has some overreactive hyperbole from Dan but maybe that's just the way he is. Both shows are totally enjoyable and informative.
I find entertainment in them all for varying reasons. But FW is great because I think they set realistic expectations of restorations when they show the number of days that go by and how long it can take to do the work. However, you are correct, Dan gets overly excited and creates drama in the weirdest ways.
At least when you get your car back from FW, you'll know the brakes work.... :haha: :haha:
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Quote from: Mopsquad on September 18, 2018, 11:15:08 AM
I think the deadline based car fix it/restoration shows have had their moment. I guess they served a purpose and did offer some suspense to the show, maybe to attract the non car audience.
Not my cup of noodles anymore.
I don't like the imposed deadlines either. What do you watch then?
I do enjoy Wheeler Dealers and Fantomworks. WD, has the resale angle as its hook which is fine. FW, has some overreactive hyperbole from Dan but maybe that's just the way he is. Both shows are totally enjoyable and informative.
I find entertainment in them all for varying reasons. But FW is great because I think they set realistic expectations of restorations when they show the number of days that go by and how long it can take to do the work. However, you are correct, Dan gets overly excited and creates drama in the weirdest ways.
At least when you get your car back from FW, you'll know the brakes work.... :haha: :haha:
:haha: :haha: :haha: That is true. Or he will fly to Germany for an off part to complete a build. Again, silly drama.
The brake thing is kind of silly however I have seen a lot of restored cars that really were not driveable. It's amazing what some of these cars with nice paint jobs are really like under the skin.
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Quote from: madmax2b on September 17, 2018, 03:21:10 PM
Wish they would give a cost breakdown like Wheeler Dealers does. I love most of the restorations, but I have a feeling some are north of $100K.
Yes, I'd love to see the bill too!
The guy with the blue Hemi RR conv wasn't real thrilled with the work. Was interesting seeing it parked next to the 69 Hemi GTX Restorations by Julius restored. I heard the owner wished he went with Julius. And a little less $$ too. Oh well, live and learn.