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Technical Shop => Electrical & Audio => Topic started by: Cudamike on April 29, 2017, 10:11:28 AM

Title: No start
Post by: Cudamike on April 29, 2017, 10:11:28 AM
Turn the key started to crank then nothing. Had been starting fine until this.
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Post by: Chryco Psycho on April 29, 2017, 10:15:19 AM
so it is  cranking & not  firing or just stopped cranking, cranking problem is probably a bad relay on the inner fender
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Post by: Cudamike on April 29, 2017, 10:32:59 AM
It stopped cranking.
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Post by: A.Gramz on April 29, 2017, 10:53:17 AM
Are you hearing any clicking or just dead silence?
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Post by: Cudamike on April 29, 2017, 11:02:56 AM
Silence it's not battery
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Post by: GoodysGotaCuda on April 29, 2017, 11:12:18 AM
Id check the ground cable at the battery and block.

Screwdriver to the starter solenoid bump things over?


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Post by: Cudamike on April 29, 2017, 11:23:35 AM
Started to take off relay. Had 2 bottom wires from relay off. I touched 2 wires left on relay and it cranked.
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Post by: Spikedog08 on April 29, 2017, 11:46:41 AM
Sounds to me like it is time to replace the relay . . .  :D
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Post by: Cudamike on April 29, 2017, 11:53:14 AM
Thanks for help
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Post by: Cudamike on April 29, 2017, 02:39:13 PM
I replaced the relay still no crank.
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Post by: GoodysGotaCuda on April 29, 2017, 02:49:49 PM
Can you provide a picture in focus? You need a wire on each of the bare spade connectors for it to crank. One switched 12v, other is grounded by the neutral safety switch or clutch switch.


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Post by: Cudamike on April 29, 2017, 03:32:22 PM
The pic is when I took the wires off the spades.  Here is a new pic of it back together. The 2 wires on the bottom of the relay 1 goes to ground the other go into fire wall.
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Post by: Cudamike on April 29, 2017, 03:39:34 PM
It actually started to crank while I was removing the relay. The 2 bottom wires were off and I was taking off nut holding two top wires.
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Post by: Cuda Cody on April 29, 2017, 03:50:54 PM
You should be able to get it to start by shorting (with a screwdriver) the starter solenoid like GoodysGotaCuda said.  That will tell you is it's bad or if it's before that solenoid.  Seems like it a loose wire or a simple electrical thing.   :thinking:
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Post by: Cuda Cody on April 29, 2017, 03:53:34 PM
Not the same solenoid but might give you an idea of how it works to short it out and start the car.


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Post by: Chryco Psycho on April 29, 2017, 04:00:51 PM
test the brown wire with an ohmmeter,make sure it has a good ground , if auto it will ground on the trans safety switch
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Post by: HP_Cuda on April 29, 2017, 07:03:33 PM
 :iagree:

Most likely the NSS/CSS stopping you from starting
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Post by: Cudamike on April 30, 2017, 05:33:44 AM
It's a 4 speed
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Post by: Cudamike on April 30, 2017, 07:03:15 AM
Pushed,pulled and jiggled all wires that came out of relay and it started. I don't know which one it was.  :notsure:
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Post by: Cuda Cody on April 30, 2017, 08:18:29 AM
Have you checked your Clutch Safety Switch?
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Post by: Cudamike on April 30, 2017, 08:35:25 AM
Car was originally an auto and it doesn't have one.
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Post by: Cuda Cody on April 30, 2017, 08:38:31 AM
Have you checked the safety connection at the trans?

Quote from: Cudamike on April 30, 2017, 08:35:25 AM
Car was originally an auto and it doesn't have one.
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Post by: Chryco Psycho on April 30, 2017, 05:23:20 PM
the brown / second wire / not yellow /has to be grounded somewhere
th yellow wires should have power in the crank position
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Post by: Cudamike on May 11, 2017, 03:50:43 PM
So if brown wire is not grounded the yellow will have no power?  The green wire is grounded under the bolt that holds the relay to fender.
Sorry for the delay I have been VT my son got a job as a forester.
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Post by: Chryco Psycho on May 11, 2017, 06:26:54 PM
You are ok the green wire is the ground
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Post by: Cudamike on May 11, 2017, 07:48:09 PM
Thanks and what does the yellow wire do. I think it might be the problem.
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Post by: Chryco Psycho on May 13, 2017, 12:38:29 PM
Yellow feeds power from the ign switch which closes the relay & shunts power to the starter