Can anyone help me identify this gearbox and pumps. I'm trying to determine if these are correct for my 70 Challenger before I have them rebuilt. These were on the car when I got it.
Here are the pics of the pumps. Both have the same number on them
Anyone happen to have Galen's White book and can assist with checking these numbers.
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First thing I would do is check the parts book for the correct pump and gearbox. The parts book is located in the Resources section of this website. I would assume that the correct parts are dependent on engine in your Challenger. Here is a few photos of the parts that came on my 1970 Challenger R/T SE 383 with AC. My power steering pump is a Saginaw model. Can't quite tell from your photos but yours look like Federal pumps to me.
I hope they help you. :cheers:
power steering gearbox bare housing part numbers
1969 Parts Catalog:
2537397 = 1969 A & B-bodies
2537398 = 1969 C-bodies
1970 Parts Catalog:
2537397 = 1970 A, B & E-bodies (non-T/A box)
2537398 = 1970 C-bodies
2948900 = 1970 E-bodies w/quick ratio T/A box
1970-'71 Parts Catalog:
2948991 = 1971 A, B & E-bodies (non-T/A box)
2537398 = 1971 C-bodies
2948900 = 1971 E-bodies w/quick ratio T/A box
Here's mine, if it helps. 11/4/69 SPD 440 RT Challenger. I'd have every reason to think this is original.
this is in a '71 Challenger, curious to the origins of this steering box - from the Phillips screw heads, "CLOCK" hand w/o dots & an odd date :huh:
#6 - found in a Hamtramck assembled '71 Challenger
does + 1210 + decode as: Wednesday 1/21/70, Tuesday 12/1/70 or 121st day of 1970 (Friday 5/1/70) * G-2267282 R6
JH23 w/C22-SPD (Tuesday 12/22/70) the aluminum tag assembly date is 3080 (Wednesday 11/4/70), is this original to the car?
This is brilliant info guys! I am learning a lot.your knowledge is appreciated.
I just took this box out of my 71 road runner, 383, 4 speed, air grabber car. I'm the second owner since 1994 and car was built at the L.A. plant in early August 1970.
Just sent my box to Firm feel and a warning to remove the aluminum tag before you ship as they remove it and don't reinstall. My box had a lot of black paint on it.
Now I'm curious to check again. My date is correct but I never looked for the tag. Headed back to the shop.
Ok, so the only tag I found on mine was this one...
So what is the going rate to get one of these things rebuilt? And who rebuilds them? How nice of a job do they do?
Firm feel stage three. :perfect10:
I have not sent it out yet, must find the sores of a serious vibration first. My research led me to the discussion to go with them. And you retain the original box. :alan2cents:
Wondering the same myself. Mine has a 409 and is in an odd spot, bent at a perfect 90 degrees as pictured above.
Dick at Firm Feel is real easy to deal with and supports his product. Right now a recondition box is priced at $425. with a core charge of $250. Shipping for me from Cali to Washington was $58 and trying to box and pack one of these is a challenge. Their turn around time is 10 weeks. Also for the restoration purist you need to specify no bead blasting and Dick won't send a box out that doesn't show well so it will need to be very clean and rust free.
Quote from: mopar jack on March 09, 2020, 07:19:00 PM
Dick at Firm Feel is real easy to deal with and supports his product.
Right now a recondition box is priced at $425. with a core charge of $250. Shipping for me from Cali to Washington was $58 and trying to box and pack one of these is a challenge.
Get a Milk crate, some 1/8" plywood or metal.
Drill it on. Ready to go.
That's what I did. Works well. :bigthumb:
Help identifying this box please, its off my 70 challenger T/A
Spoke to firm-feel today, they said a T/A box may be marked with the letters T/A , never heard of that before.
G-2267262
yes, the "quick ratio" 1970-'71 power steering boxes have a large "TA" cast on them
when I put together the earlier pics in this thread - I also took a picture of this steering box in a mid-June '69 scheduled 383 Barracuda Formula S
cast 4-29 assembled 1399 (139th day of 1969 or 5/19/69) - this was the only unit I found with the big number cast on it 1N VS. your 4S :dunno:
best "TA" pic I could find :takepicture: anyone have a better pic?
Ply64,
You have one of the rare ones! So cool!
Yes: Thats a nice piece for sure.
This is the steering box that came out of my 70 LA built 383 car . I'm wondering if it's the original unit
Scheduled Production Date
I don't know does the VIN have that info?
Just post a pic of your fender tag(s). Should be on there.
Will do.
Quote from: headejm on March 09, 2020, 04:34:34 PM
What is the purpose of the small metal tag on the valve assembly? Mine says "429" but that number doesn't appear to match any of the numbers on the gearbox. :notsure:
a complete unmolested box will probably have a cast date, a machining/assembly date & a inspection/test date (or similar & this was probably different year-to-year & at different steering box plants)
429 = assembled/inspected 42nd week of 1969 mid-October
409 = assembled/inspected 40th week of 1969 early-October
the pressure hose also has a date stamped on it - from a 11/69 built 440+6 Superbird :takealook:
7-digit part number: 2891078
5-digit vendor code: 95165
4-digit date code: 308 9 308th day of 1969 = Tuesday November 4, 1969
& the power steering cooler (SAGINAW) from the same 440+6 Superbird
2 dates :thinking: assembled & tested ?? :dunno:
5-digit vendor code: 21042
4-digit date code: 3179 317th day of 1969 = Thursday 11/13/69
4-digit date code: 3219 321st day of 1969 = Monday 11/17/69