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Title: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: Cuda Cody on October 30, 2020, 09:17:58 AM
Do you have a 3 speed wiper motor on your e-body?

1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974 Cuda and Challenger (E-Body) Wiper Date Codes only.  This can help people when they are missing their original wiper motor and want to find a date that should be correct for their car. 

Dates are shown as 4 digit numbers on the wiper motor. For example, 1170 would be the 117th day of 1970. SPD is Scheduled Production Date and is found on the fender tag. For Example, 917 would be 9th month and 17th day (Aug 17th) of the production year.

Post your Wiper Date / SPD and I will update the list

1970 Hamtramck Built
- 1749 = A06
- 1749 = A06
- 1749 = A12
- 1749 = 829
- 2309 = 829
- 2309 = 908
- 2659 = A09
- 2939 = A13
- 2939 = B04
- 2939 = B04
- 2939 = B11
- 3079 = B20
- 3079 = B25
- 3079 = C19
- 3079 = C19
- 3079 = 109
- 3079 = 401
- 3079 = 402
- 3289 = 401
- 3429 = 115
- 3429 = 209
- 3429 = 403
- 0050 = 320
- 0820 = 407
- 0820 = 414
- 0820 = 427
- 0960 = 413
- 0960 = 515
- 0960 = 613
- 1030 = 508
- 1170 = 625
- 1520 = 707
- 1870 = 702

1970 LA Built
- 2939 = 311

1971
- 1870 = 812
- 2220 = 829
- 2990 = C03
- 0111 = 401
- 0391 = 303
- 0391 = 430
- 1161 = 520

1972
- 0062 = 403

1973
- 2632 = 927

1974
- 2323 = 824
- 2713 = A17
- 0524 = 218


PLEASE INDICATE WHAT MOTOR YOU HAVE IF IT DOES NOT LINE UP WITH THESE PART NUMBERS
1970 = 3431077
1971 = 3431077
1972 = 3431534 early before 9-1-1971
1972 = 3431624 late after 9-1-1971
1973 = 3431665
1974 = 3431906


Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: TGGodfrey on October 30, 2020, 09:43:16 AM
Here is the info that Dave Wise shares regarding date range

https://www.mmcdetroit.com/Production_Date_Code/
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: moreparts on October 30, 2020, 09:45:36 AM
Mine is a 0960 for a 5/15/70 build Hamtramck car.

1970 (Please indicate if LA built car)
- 1749 = Cuda A06
- 2939 = Challenger R/T 311 (LA BUILT)
- 3079 = Challenger R/T B25
- 3429 = Challenger T/A 403
- 0960 = Challenger R/T 515 (Hamtramck)

1971
- 2990 = Cuda C03

1972


1973


1974
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: SgtSuperbird on October 30, 2020, 12:02:13 PM
1970 (Please indicate if LA built car)
- 1749 = Cuda A06
- 2939 = Challenger R/T 311 (LA BUILT)
- 3079 = Challenger R/T B25
- 3429 = Challenger T/A 403
- 0960 = Challenger R/T 515 (Hamtramck)
- 0820 = Challenger T/A 414

1971
- 2990 = Cuda C03

1972


1973

Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 76orangewagon on October 30, 2020, 01:03:52 PM
0391= Monday Febuary 8, 1971.... car's SPD is 430 April 30,1971
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 7E-Bodies on October 31, 2020, 05:05:19 AM
JS23U0B
11/4/69 SPD
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: JH27N0B on October 31, 2020, 06:03:41 AM
Could the intention of this thread be clarified?  Are you looking for members who still have their original 3 speed motors on their cars, or just want everyone to post what they have chosen to install regardless of if it was the original one or not? 
I have 3 cars with them, on each I installed a wiper motor dated a month or so prior to the car's build. But sadly none of the cars had their original parts on them when I bought them, so my choice was just an educated guess.
Working in manufacturing I can tell you their has always been variation on when parts are received and when they were installed.  Unless you have your original or documentation of what was on it, you will never know, so like me you try to find one dated 4-8 weeks prior to your build date and call it good.
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: JP426 on October 31, 2020, 12:17:05 PM
1970 JS29 Hamtramck built
2939  B11

Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: Cuda Cody on October 31, 2020, 01:27:48 PM
Great question @JH27N0B (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/jh27n0b_308)   For this database it would be best to only include original 3 speed wiper motors that are known to have come on the car.  It's just a fun way to help anyone who might be missing their 3 speed wiper motor find one that would be close.  Some people will never care about the dates and that's perfectly fine, but for those that do want to know what would be most likely a correct date for their car this database should be helpful.

Quote from: JH27N0B on October 31, 2020, 06:03:41 AM
Could the intention of this thread be clarified?  Are you looking for members who still have their original 3 speed motors on their cars, or just want everyone to post what they have chosen to install regardless of if it was the original one or not? 
I have 3 cars with them, on each I installed a wiper motor dated a month or so prior to the car's build. But sadly none of the cars had their original parts on them when I bought them, so my choice was just an educated guess.
Working in manufacturing I can tell you their has always been variation on when parts are received and when they were installed.  Unless you have your original or documentation of what was on it, you will never know, so like me you try to find one dated 4-8 weeks prior to your build date and call it good.
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: Cuda Cody on October 31, 2020, 01:47:56 PM
The database list in the first post has been updated.  It's starting to paint a nice range of what dates fit what cars.
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: headejm on October 31, 2020, 02:07:55 PM
1970 JS29 Hamtramck built
1030 date code
508 SPD
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: fuscobros on October 31, 2020, 02:46:57 PM
0111= January 11, 1971
SPD = 401  (April 1, 1971)
1971 383 Shaker Cuda
Hamtramck
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: PLY474 on November 01, 2020, 09:02:03 AM
1974 BS23
2713 Wiper (9/28/1973)
A17 SPD (10/17/1973)
1010 Build (10/10/1973)
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: worthywads on November 01, 2020, 09:39:59 AM
1970 Challenger Hamtramck
2309 date code 8/19
829 SPD
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: Ns1aar on November 01, 2020, 10:52:42 AM
Wiper motor date codes changed every 7 days
This predates the 68 calender
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: Cuda Cody on November 01, 2020, 11:18:49 AM
That's great to know!

Quote from: Ns1aar on November 01, 2020, 10:52:42 AM
Wiper motor date codes changed every 7 days
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: HP2 on November 01, 2020, 04:24:47 PM
'74 Challenger
JH23
SPD  824
motor is 2323
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: Skdmark on November 03, 2020, 12:20:10 PM
JS23N1B
SPD 520
1161

BH23G1B
SPD 812
1870

Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 6bblgt on November 06, 2020, 12:40:46 PM
1970 BS23U0B:

3-speed wiper - 2659 = 265th day of 1969 * Monday September 22, 1969
SPD - A09 = Thursday October 9, 1969 (actually "In Plant/In Process" on Saturday 10/11/69)

17 days before "scheduled" & 19 days before "actual"
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 6bblgt on November 08, 2020, 09:14:27 PM
1970 JS23N0B:

3-speed wiper - 1870 = 187th day of 1970 * Monday July 6, 1970
SPD - 702 = Thursday July 2, 1970 (actually "In Plant/In Process" on/after* Friday 7/17/70)

4 days after "scheduled" & ~11 days before "actual"

* K-frame is dated - 1980 = 198th day of 1970 * Friday July 17, 1970
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 6bblgt on November 08, 2020, 09:44:56 PM
Quote from: Skdmark on November 03, 2020, 12:20:10 PM
BH23G1B
SPD 812
1870

@Skdmark (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/skdmark_284) - I just noticed your '71 Barracuda's wiper motor is the same date as my '70 R/T's

@Ns1aar (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/ns1aar_541) or anyone, when did they stop using the red Glyptal?  I thought it was for '71 but my wiper motor has no remnants

were there numerous vendors or just 73692, do "WE" know who this was?

@Cuda Cody (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cuda-cody_1)  -  maybe add the part numbers to the first post to confirm at what dates the stamped part numbers actually changed on the assembly line

1970 = 3431077
1971 = 3431077
1972 = 3431534 early before 9/1/71
1972 = 3431624 late after 9/1/71
1973 = 3431665
1974 = 3431906
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on November 09, 2020, 12:07:52 AM
SPD A13, actual production date appears to be around A31
Wiper Date  Stamping...  2939
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: headejm on November 09, 2020, 08:22:47 AM
Quote from: 6bblgt on November 08, 2020, 09:44:56 PM

@Ns1aar (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/ns1aar_541) or anyone, when did they stop using the red Glyptal?  I thought it was for '71 but my wiper motor has no remnants


@6bblgt (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/6bblgt_211)  My SPD 508, 1030 date code has no sign of the red Glyptal paint. Maybe others can chime in on what is on their wiper motor and we can figure it out?
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: Ns1aar on November 09, 2020, 09:37:14 AM
It seems the red insulating varnish disappears early 70 and comes back in 72 although I have seen some in that time frame with it on them. Could be replacement motors.

I have 3 vender codes here.

Prestolite 73691(went bankrupt date unknow) seems to 70 A/B and earlier based on what I have on hand and pics
I'm assuming 73692 is Prestolite( status unknow at this time) 70 E and most everything after 71
7280 unknow at this time so far I have only found these on 0820. I see these mostly on AAR's and T/A's. Could be a separate department for quick turnaround orders

Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: Skdmark on November 09, 2020, 12:04:39 PM
This motor has signs of Glyptal on it.

JS23N1B
SPD 520
1161

Were the over the counter rebuild kits for the wiper motors be a possible explanation of the differences in switch plates?
It looks like Ma Mopar had several different kits over the years, the kit below looks like it is from '73 and has the plastic switch cover for example.

From the Ebay ad I grabbed the picture from :
"NOS Mopar 3620736 variable or 3 speed windshield wiper motor plate and latch repair package as pictured for 1969 1970 1971 1972 1973 1974 Plymouth, Dodge, Chrysler vehicles. Kit includes gear, latch, bushing, switch plate and grease and fits the following Chrysler wiper motors; 2926919, 2983033, 2983116, 3431077, 3431408, 3431532, 3434534, 3431535, 3431624, 3431632, 3431665, 3431666, 3431739.  Replaces NOS Chrysler Mopar 3420870, 3420918, 3837326, 4049727."
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 198D13 on November 09, 2020, 12:16:50 PM
Quote from: Ns1aar on November 01, 2020, 10:52:42 AM
Wiper motor date codes changed every 7 days
This predates the 68 calender

FYI:
The first 3431 077 made had a date 0f 1609, every motor made after that was dated seven days later until the end of 1971 production. So, 1609, 1679, 1749, 1819, 1889, etc, etc. The last date for 1969 would be 3639, then the first date into 1970 would be 0050. If a date does not correspond exactly with this lineage, it is because someone has stamped a barrel himself, and it is not original. There are no exceptions.
BTW, the exact same dates and rules also apply to blower motors(A/C and non A/C) for your heater box, again on E Body cars.
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: Northcuda on November 09, 2020, 02:29:42 PM
1970 Barracuda BH23N08
Wiper 1819
No SPD ( No plate)
One of the first 3 Barracuda arrived in France in September 1969.
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: Cudino on November 09, 2020, 06:09:49 PM
Thanks Cody for doing this!  I can add the following (all 3 are 1077s from survivor cars):

BS23R0B
SPD 401
3079

BS23R0B
SPD 402
3079

JS23R1B
SPD 829
2220

- Wade
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: floorit426 on November 12, 2020, 10:25:02 AM
BS23R0B
SPD A06
1749
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: RusTy/SE on November 27, 2020, 07:59:25 AM
Original 3431077 wiper unit to car;

307 9 Date code on wiper motor barrel - vehicle SPD of 109.
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: antonellomopar on December 09, 2020, 09:15:58 AM
Here are pics of my 70 Hemicuda wiper, 115 spd,  and my 71 Challenger 440 six pack 303 spd.
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 6bblgt on February 13, 2021, 04:21:57 PM
a friend bought a 707-SPD '70 Challenger R/T last month - I got to see it today
missing the engine, but otherwise original/complete desert dog (has '80 NV plates on it) & unmolested - I pulled the BS from a front seat  :banana:

wiper motor 1520 = June 1, 1970
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 7E-Bodies on February 13, 2021, 07:21:01 PM
@6bblgt (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/6bblgt_211) do tell more...in another thread if need be. Love seeing all the stats on an old find.
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 71383bee on March 26, 2021, 10:57:02 AM
1973 Challenger 3 Speed Wiper: 2553 - SPD of 319  (Likely a replacement from a 74) 
1970 Challenger 3 Speed Wiper: 1749 - SPD of 829  (seems pretty legit to be the original)

Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: JS23U on August 12, 2021, 06:11:43 AM
Hamtramck built 1970 Challenger
1170 (April 27th)          SPD 625
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 704406 on November 01, 2021, 11:09:13 AM
70 Cuda BS23V0B SPD A12
O77 wiper motor, date 1749
Hamtramck built
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: plymouthbelvy on November 01, 2021, 01:55:54 PM
3431077 with 3429 date and SPD209
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: js27 on November 01, 2021, 04:52:37 PM
Build Date was  B-20--69--70 R/T
JS27
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: MoparCarGuy on December 17, 2021, 07:51:43 PM
1970 BS23H0B:
Original 3-speed wiper - 0960 = 96th day of 1970 * Monday, April 6, 1970
SPD - 613 = 164th day of 1970 * Saturday, June 13, 1970
No Glyptal on switchplate.
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: DeathProofCuda on February 07, 2022, 12:50:01 PM
BS23N0B
SPD = 908
3431077
Wiper date code = 2309 (August 18, 1969)
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 70vert on February 07, 2022, 03:26:50 PM
I am fascinated by the fastination with 3-speed wipers. I get that they were an upgrade, and look cooler but doesn't feel like a brag point. I seriously doubt if many/any on here drive their E-Body in the rain (:

I'm sure you can tell I have a lowly 2-speed  :-[
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: DeathProofCuda on February 07, 2022, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: 70vert on February 07, 2022, 03:26:50 PM
I am fascinated by the fastination with 3-speed wipers. I get that they were an upgrade, and look cooler but doesn't feel like a brag point. I seriously doubt if many/any on here drive their E-Body in the rain (:

I'm sure you can tell I have a lowly 2-speed  :-[

I don't think there is any 3-speed wiper motor bragging going on here, just people geeking out about date codes.  Probably one of the very few parts that has an easily viewed date code when the hood is open.
Title: Re: What's your 3 Speed Wiper motor date?
Post by: 70vert on February 07, 2022, 09:05:44 PM
Quote from: DeathProofCuda on February 07, 2022, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: 70vert on February 07, 2022, 03:26:50 PM
I am fascinated by the fastination with 3-speed wipers. I get that they were an upgrade, and look cooler but doesn't feel like a brag point. I seriously doubt if many/any on here drive their E-Body in the rain (:

I'm sure you can tell I have a lowly 2-speed  :-[

I don't think there is any 3-speed wiper motor bragging going on here, just people geeking out about date codes.  Probably one of the very few parts that has an easily viewed date code when the hood is open.

I wasn't just referring to this post, have seen several of people looking for (geeking out) about them. Your explanation makes sense, I kinda wish other parts had that much identifiable info. Meant no offense, just find it kinda funny.