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Title: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: nsmall on April 13, 2017, 09:11:26 AM
Stole this from the Internet.  It was posted in 2013.

I've done about 20 E Body dash pads recently. The trick is to remove the dash assembly as a whole, restore it, then re-install it as a whole.

Here are 26 easy steps:

1)Open Hood
1.5) Dis-connect battery
2)Remove four plugged wire harnesses from bulk head
3)Remove two nuts holding bulkhead in place
4)Open doors
5)Remove A pillar trim and associated trim
6)Remove Kick Panels and associated trim
7)Unplug both door jamb light switches
8)Unplug E Brake warning wire
9)Unplug tail light harness
10)Unplug dimmer Switch
11)Reach up and unplug heater box
12)Unplug console light
13)Disconnect antenna
14)At the heater control, disconnect both heater cables
15)Unplug both steering column harnesses
16)Unplug brake pedal switch, both wires
17)Undo both vent cables and let them hang
18)Remove 3 steering column bolts at firewall
19)Remove to nuts on steering column at the dash
20)Lower column and allow to hang
21)Remove 4 bolts at windshield using a 1/4 drive flex
22)Remove 2 bolts at door pillars
23) Disconnect speedometer cable.
24)Prepare for a heavy dash to fall on your lap
25)Yell to wife for help
26) Have a cold beer, you're done

Im taking out the front glass so I am thinking this should be fairly easy. Did Alan miss anything?

Thanks Alan

PS Maybe you all know this but I just found out from the Ultimate Rides guy Alan that you NEVER USE ARMOR-
ALL on your dash or really any parts of your interior as it TRAPS the UV RAYS CAUSING DAMAGE.  He recommended using Pledge (furniture cleaner).  Thanks
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: Chryco Psycho on April 13, 2017, 09:21:33 AM
looks right except I do not remove the 2 bolts at he door pillars , the lower dash mounts are slotted so the dash can sit on these bolts once  the 4 bolts in the defroster are removed the dash will lift right off of the lower dash bolts , this also helps with  installing the ash s it can be set onto the same lower bolts & lifted up to align the 4 defroster bolts
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on April 13, 2017, 09:44:50 AM
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on April 13, 2017, 09:21:33 AM
looks right except I do not remove the 2 bolts at he door pillars , the lower dash mounts are slotted so the dash can sit on these bolts once  the 4 bolts in the defroster are removed the dash will lift right off of the lower dash bolts , this also helps with  installing the ash s it can be set onto the same lower bolts & lifted up to align the 4 defroster bolts

For that to work when you preform step 19 you should have double nutted the studs & removed the studs too rather than just the nuts..... And yes, thats how I do it too.... :cheers:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: anlauto on April 13, 2017, 10:01:44 AM
Wow...that's old :tired:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on April 13, 2017, 10:12:01 AM
Quote from: anlauto on April 13, 2017, 10:01:44 AM
Wow...that's old :tired:

Like we're not?  But still has value to those who haven't been there yet..... So thanks for typing it all up so the rest of us wouldn't have to... :rofl:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: anlauto on April 13, 2017, 10:29:24 AM
Yea...don't know what I was thinking...must have had a lot of time on my hands..... :rofl:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: Spikedog08 on April 13, 2017, 11:23:25 AM
Definitely some good information there!   :clapping:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: Cuda Cody on April 13, 2017, 11:32:08 AM
That's a great list...  thanks for writing it all down!!!!!   :bravo:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: Shoooter on May 20, 2017, 08:46:15 AM
I'm building my dash and getting it ready for install. What all do you put on the frame and what is left off until it's in the car? It's a a.c. car so there are a few more things to be put on.
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: Cuda Cody on May 20, 2017, 09:00:38 AM
I've not done an AC car, but EVERYTHING goes on my dashes before they go in the car.  As much as you can put on now will make it a lot easier later.  :alan2cents:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: anlauto on May 20, 2017, 09:18:47 AM
I'm with Cody...before the dash goes in, the firewall behind the dash is 100% complete. The dash assembly while on the bench is 100% complete.. Just install, hook up a few wires and cables and you're all set :alan2cents:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: Shoooter on May 22, 2017, 07:53:43 PM
Dash pad is the last to go on? Or is there pieces around the gauges that are last?
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on May 22, 2017, 08:00:59 PM
Pad goes on dash frame first... Then wiring, gauges, ducts, trim and so on... You install the dash as a complete assembly....
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: Cuda Cody on May 22, 2017, 10:32:05 PM
 :iagree:  Dash pad is the 1st item you put on the dash frame.
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: anlauto on May 23, 2017, 03:40:35 AM
Pad first for sure. :worship:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: Chryco Psycho on May 23, 2017, 09:06:05 AM
Make sure all the insulation , pedals & supports , heater box , etc are all in place before the dash is installed as Alan said
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: HP_Cuda on May 23, 2017, 10:51:58 AM

I'd suggest setting up a frame to mount the dash  - makes things much easier to assemble.
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: cuda dad on August 21, 2017, 07:26:43 PM
The list makes it sound so easy, I've only ever replaced a dash pad with the dash still in the car.  Wasn't pretty.
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: 70/6chall on August 21, 2017, 07:57:09 PM
I can remember a few years back when I changed out my dash pad for the replacement I procured. Didn't know a damned thing about R&Ring an E-body pad. With nothing to go by, I sat in the drivers seat for about 20 mins looked at my job and started taking things apart methodically one after another. After 2 days on a weekend, I was sitting in front of completed task, I must have done something right it went back together the way it came apart. Except with a new pad. I found out there are about 9 or 10 PAL nuts up under the windshield I decided to change them to regular nuts. Got real tired of laying under the dash real quick. Did lay a heavy blanket down so I didn't break my back on the tunnel. Glad it's in, you can bet on it, it will be well taken care of.     Thanks,   Al
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: 7212Mopar on August 21, 2017, 11:45:37 PM
Wear long sleeves to avoid cuts of your arms but it makes it more difficult to get to some of the speed nuts. A little more work but should be easier to do it outside the car. I did mine in the car with sweat, blood and curse.
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: ksierens on August 22, 2017, 04:45:40 AM
All great information, just finished restoring my dash including removing the pad from the frame and repainting both. One thing I did not do was to install the trim below the radio until I put the dash back in the car because I was afraid it might be broken. Boy that was a pain getting at the screws, ended up having to take the radio and ash tray back out again to get to them.

A large piece of plywood and a few 2x4's worked great for me for a frame to hold it, kinda a rotisserie for the dash  :ohyeah:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: benlavigne on August 22, 2017, 08:16:50 AM
This how-to has some pics for those who nedd to visualize, like me...

http://www.justdashes.com/2011/08/instructions-1970-74-mopar-e-body-dash-pad-removal-and-replacement/

Ben
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: dave73 on November 01, 2017, 08:32:35 AM
This thread is a wealth of knowledge, I'll be going at this task over the winter so THANK YOU!

Any recommendations on the best way to get the fasteners out by the windshield?
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: Chryco Psycho on November 01, 2017, 09:03:42 AM
1/4 " drive with a flex extension works best , keep a magnet near too
installing the screws is another story , I fought with that for hours on one car , , my customers girlfriend showed up & was able to start the screws by hand !!
Nice to have small hands at times LOL
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: anlauto on November 01, 2017, 09:40:14 AM
Here's another trick.....Grab that long mirror off of the back of the wife's closet door.....lay it on the outside of the windshield and with a small light source, you'll be able the see those bolts no problem.... 8)

Get it done quick and put the mirror back before she sees it's gone  :pullinghair: :alan2cents:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: dave73 on November 01, 2017, 11:44:37 AM
Quote from: anlauto on November 01, 2017, 09:40:14 AM
Here's another trick.....Grab that long mirror off of the back of the wife's closet door.....lay it on the outside of the windshield and with a small light source, you'll be able the see those bolts no problem.... 8)

Get it done quick and put the mirror back before she sees it's gone  :pullinghair: :alan2cents:

Great idea! I'll do it on a day she is working...
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: HP_Cuda on November 01, 2017, 11:44:51 AM

How about an easier option, pull the window.

Done.
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: dave73 on November 01, 2017, 11:51:55 AM
Quote from: HP_Cuda on November 01, 2017, 11:44:51 AM

How about an easier option, pull the window.

Done.

Actually thinking about that as well. Current one has a small chip, I may get a new one so we'll see.

What size are the bolts by the windshield?
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: HP_Cuda on November 01, 2017, 11:53:19 AM

I think they were 7/16" heads but don't quote me.
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: anlauto on November 01, 2017, 11:56:57 AM
3/8  :alan2cents:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: HP_Cuda on November 01, 2017, 01:56:14 PM
I knew they were small but it's been awhile.
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: 303 Mopar on November 01, 2017, 02:45:03 PM
Quote from: HP_Cuda on November 01, 2017, 01:56:14 PM
I knew they were small but it's been awhile.

That's what she said...... :rofl: :veryexcited: :haha: :stop:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: Roadman on November 01, 2017, 02:47:46 PM
Quote from: 303 Mopar on November 01, 2017, 02:45:03 PM
Quote from: HP_Cuda on November 01, 2017, 01:56:14 PM
I knew they were small but it's been awhile.

That's what she said...... :rofl: :veryexcited: :haha: :stop:

                 Been in the pool.   :rofl:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: RUNCHARGER on November 01, 2017, 04:58:55 PM
I've never had a problem with the windshield in. I use a 1/4" drive setup and it goes pretty easy.
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: soundcontrol on November 02, 2017, 08:43:45 AM
The fun part is putting it back again, do the steps in reverse, you start out with having a beer!  :D
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: xx88man on November 02, 2017, 08:55:30 AM
Quote from: soundcontrol on November 02, 2017, 08:43:45 AM
The fun part is putting it back again, do the steps in reverse, you start out with having a beer!  :D

That will make it all good!   :drunk:     :rofl:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: anlauto on November 02, 2017, 09:29:16 AM
  :tool: :drunk: :drunk: :haha: :haha:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: HP_Cuda on November 02, 2017, 09:41:37 AM

Too funny but they is plural.

Quote from: 303 Mopar on November 01, 2017, 02:45:03 PM
Quote from: HP_Cuda on November 01, 2017, 01:56:14 PM
I knew they were small but it's been awhile.

That's what she said...... :rofl: :veryexcited: :haha: :stop:
Title: Re: Dash Removal in the words of Alan
Post by: Flatdad on January 05, 2021, 10:08:40 AM
Bumping this back to the top so its easier for others to find. I just used this list over the holidays to remove my Challenger's rallye dash & I was quite glad to have this. Maybe it should be a sticky/pinned item?