I have been a Challenger fan, but especially an A66 fan for many years.
Over the years I collected information on many A66 cars when available in just tracking the market for these special Challengers. Something I have always wanted to do is to establish a registry for the A66 Challengers. I hope to collect information as any registry would; in a confidential manner, but with enough data to put together pertinent statistics for anyone that is interested. I think a formal A66 registry would go a long way in recording important data, and determine what number of cars are actually still out there.
I have established a dedicated e- mail, an introduction letter and registration form for this purpose.
Please consider registering your car so that our data is organized and available to registrants. All information submitted will be kept confidential and logged into an A66 Databank. Thank you all for your interest and support in documenting our A66 Challengers!
You can obtain the registration form by e-mailing me at the designated registry web site: a66challengerregistry61@yahoo.com. Please fill out the form and scan it to the registry email;
I will eventually convert the registration form to a PDF file for easy e-mailing and possibly look to establish a dedicated web site (one step at a time) I have included an into letter and registration form below if interested.
See letter and forms below.
Introduction Letter
1970 A66 Challenger Registry
I am excited about setting up an A66 Challenger members registry in order to document our special Challengers which were only made in this format for the 1970 model year. They are really "RT" Challengers with the same performance equipment, but with a powerful, high compression small block 340 engine. This is an area of strong interest of mine and I have a personal interest in these unique cars (having my A66 convertible since 1979, and owning a number of Challengers back in the day)
This is a collaborative effort with your help, as I hope to collect as much information as possible on our A66 cars in order to document and make the data and statistics available to A66 owners or enthusiasts of these unique Challengers. Our cars are experiencing the 50+ year anniversary of their initial production this year (2020) and I thought it would be great to put the information all in one place. It would be great to estimate how many are still out there?
I have also been collecting information about these cars for a number of years including available VIN numbers, broadcast sheets/build dates, and options and would enjoy communicating with others who share an interest and/or ownership in these cars.
Please consider registering your A-66 Challenger by completing the attached registration form. There is no cost or fees for this and the registry is being organized for the fun and interest of A66 owners.
I look forward to hearing from you and am always welcome any suggestions you may have. Please email me and I will quickly send you a sign-up sheet/registration form.
You can obtain the registration form by e-mailing me at the designated registry web site: a66challengerregistry61@yahoo.com. Please fill out the form and scan it to the registry email.
Please consider registering your car so that our data is organized and available to registrants. All information submitted will be kept confidential and logged into an A66 Databank. Thank you for your interest and support in documenting our A66 Challengers!
Sincerely, Phillip Haramia
a66challengerregistry61@yahoo.com
Registration Form (Best viewed on a wide screen monitor)
1970 Challenger A66 Registration Form
a66challengerregistry61@yahoo.com
Name: ________________________________________________________________
Address: ______________________________________________________________
City: _______________________ State/Province/Country: ___________________
Zip/Postal Code: _____________ Phone/Contact # _________________________
E-mail: _____________________ Date of Registration / /
Vehicle Identification Number: JH___________________________ Year Vehicle Purchased: ______
Fender Tag Information: Tag 1 Tag 2 (if applicable)
(Start at bottom, read left to right) Row 6 ______________________ ___________________
Row 5 ______________________ ___________________
Row 4 ______________________ ___________________
Row 3 ______________________ ___________________
Row 2 ______________________ ___________________
Row 1 ______________________ ___________________
Please identify possession of the following: (signify Y or N, or provide information as appropriate):
Original Owner ___ Original Dealership Sold (if known) ____________________________
Scheduled Production Date: ________Window Sticker___ Fender Tag___ Broadcast Sheet___
Ex color/Code _________/_______ Int. color/Code _______/_________ Vinyl___ Cloth ___ Leather___
Original Engine (if known) __ Engine ID #_________________________________ Cast date / /
Original Transmission (if known) ____ Automatic ____ 4 sp _____ 3sp___Transmission ID #_________________
Hood: Flat __Sport hood___ 340 Hood Callouts: Decal__ Emblem __ V-8 Fender callout __ Crunch Zones__
Power steering ___Power brakes ___ Rear Axle Ratio __:___ Sure Grip __
Rallye Dash ___ Steering wheel: wood grain ___ rim blow ___ Radio: AM __ AM-FM __ AM-8 trac __
Bumble Bee Stripe ___ Deleted ___ Color________________ Wheels: road __ rallye ___ wheel covers ___
Current condition: Survivor ___ Restored ___ Day 2 Modified ___ Resto-mod ____ Other ___________
Pg. 1 (form 3/2019)
Modifications and any additional information:
I'll see if I can figure out my computer so I can fill this out.
There is also a group on fb for A66 cars.
Do you want it registered even if I do not own it anymore ??
JS27
Yes, that would be great :cheers:
It would allow us to keep track of our cars and create a data bank with option numbers, colors, transmissions etc. Win win data to really see how many are still around.
It would be appreciated.
Thanks for participating
Phil
Thanks for your interest
I occasionally post on the FB A66 site
I wanted to communicate with the site administrator to let him know I will be posting the cover letter and registration form there. He is very involved with our A66 cars
I have the VIN & fender tag for one that is no longer in existence. Would you like that kind of information, too?
Just emailed the completed form for my car. :banana:
Quote from: erik70rt on February 11, 2020, 11:55:01 AM
I have the VIN & fender tag for one that is no longer in existence. Would you like that kind of information, too?
Erik, I would appreciate that information; it would recorded as a car that no longer exits.
Thanks
Phil
Quote from: 340challconvert on February 11, 2020, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: erik70rt on February 11, 2020, 11:55:01 AM
I have the VIN & fender tag for one that is no longer in existence. Would you like that kind of information, too?
Erik, I would appreciate that information; it would recorded as a car that no longer exits.
Thanks
Phil
I'll PM you the info later today.
Just some baseline information on the A66 Register information that I currently have;
Total of 67 partial and relatively complete records of A66 Challengers
40 - HD automatics D32
27 - 4 sp D21
Earliest SPD on file 9/25/69, a convertible, automatic in Y1/black
15 A66 Convertibles; 10 automatics, 5- 4 speeds.
A66 Owners; consider registering your Challenger
Thank you
Phil
Here's a pic of the tags. This was my car in high school. Literally broke apart from the rust. Wish I still had it.
I've set up a website to host the registry and the basic info on the A66 Challengers:
www.A66Challenger.com
The registration form is there, available for download!
Ben
Quote from: erik70rt on February 12, 2020, 07:31:34 PM
Here's a pic of the tags. This was my car in high school. Literally broke apart from the rust. Wish I still had it.
Erik
Thank you for posting your tags. I have added the information to the A66 Registry. I decoded your tag for the registry records. That was a nice car you had with the 4 speed in plum crazy
The applications are now available on a new website; http://www.a66challenger.com/ set up by Ben Lavigne who runs the A66 forum on Facebook.
Quick Link to A66 Registry Application form.
Please consider registering your A66 Challenger
Download form and return to fora66challengerregistry61@yahoo.com
https://www.forebodiesonly.com/forum/attachments/1970-challenger-a66-registration-form-feb-2020-2-pdf.68777/
Cool idea and good luck.
Although I have owned many e-bodies my first was an A66 convertible back in June of 1978. I'll send you the info I have on this car and the other A66 coupe I owned. The EV2 car had the decal engine callouts.
Quote from: jeff968 on March 03, 2020, 10:41:59 AM
Cool idea and good luck.
Although I have owned many e-bodies my first was an A66 convertible back in June of 1978. I'll send you the info I have on this car and the other A66 coupe I owned. The EV2 car had the decal engine callouts.
Jeff, thanks for the response; it would be great to add your data to the developing A66 Challenger Registry. You had an early car; the metal call outs were not available until November. My October 6th build still has the decals on the hood
I keep a spread sheet with option codes listed so I can track the number of certain options that were on the tag/build sheet. I also keep an individual electronic file for each car registered with any pertinent information owners can provide.
Would love to get an idea as to how many actually remain out there.Looking forward to your information
You may also want to check out the Challenger A66 Group on Facebook. Ben Lavigne who is one of the administrators there hosts the website and also has the Registration Form available.
Thanks again
Phil (340challconvert)
Hi Phil,
I've sent you an email. Happy to put my A66 on the registry.
A thank you to Ben Lavigne for forwarding A66 data including tags to be added to the A66 Challenger Registry Information.
A sample of information coming into the registry w unknown ownership:
A66 Challenger JH23H0B
340 engine
3 sp transmission (1st standard 3 sp on file)
FE5 w a black interior, black v top and a white bumble stripe.
October 28 Build Date
Car was ordered with dual racing mirrors, hood pins w the performance hood treatment!
Sounds like a stunning looking car
As always A66 Owners; consider registering your car.
Thank you
Phil
A66 Barn Find up for sale on eBay
Originally automatic, converted to 4sp
Original drivetrain comes w car
Body/frame look decent?
Currently bid to $3150
Looks to be FK5 with an Orange Bumble Stripe
:takemymoney:
Happy Hunting A66 Fans
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Challenger/193371138934?hash=item2d05d16b76:g:2-IAAOSwEaReYazH
Please check your email and reply in a timely manner. I have or know of several of these cars.
I thank you for responding and am very interested in any A66 data that you may have.
Been a busy 3 weeks since I initiated an A66 Registry, so I appreciate your interest and your patience. I am getting registration information from several sources, including here, also on FEBO, and on the A66 Challenger group on Facebook.
Response has been great. I take each car and list on a spreadsheet and additionally create an electronic file for each car submitted. The spreadsheet breaks down options by code so that I can track how many registered cars have specific options.
Anyway looking forward to any data you may have and thanks again
Phil
For any A66 aficionado, :banana:
I found a low mileage, original A66 Convertible in Y-1, automatic with a build sheet and tags; all matching. I spoke with Randy; he has several A66 Challengers and is a real A66 fan, along with other Mopars
Hard to find one with mileage in the 30's. For Sale information; Contact Randy 1-602-206-3509
This car is like a time capsule; blackout treatment on cowl, original polyglass tires on 15" rallyes, interior looks mint, early door panels w/o wood grain
Thanks to DetMatt who submitted pics of this A66 Challenger to the Registry; a friends car from back in the 80's. A burnt orange car w a white bumble, an automatic, with 15"wheels and AC
Found an interesting video of a 1970 A66 Challenger in hemi-orange and black bumble stripe. Anyone know this car? Posted February 2012
https://youtu.be/Zh1mrrqq3As
A-66
Registry
A-66 Registry Form for any interested owner;
https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/d0f32791-4881-4f68-933c-6c189d61bccb/downloads/1970-Challenger-A66-Registration-Form-Feb-2020.pdf?ver=1582657871414
Continuing to highlight examples of A-66 challengers listed in the A-66 Registry
This A66 convertible beauty was sold in March, last year; White interior, 4sp, 3:55 gears w rallye dash in stunning condition.
2nd pic of the interior
And another stunning example of a more rare TX9 w white bumble stripe. This former car of Mat M, this A-66 has an automatic, black interior, factory hood pins, and the molding package. It is an early A66 build on A03 (October 3rd)
As always, I would enjoy hearing from other A-66 owners and invite you to add your name to the A-66 Registry
https://www.forebodiesonly.com/forum/attachments/1970-challenger-a66-registration-form-feb-2020-2-pdf.68777/
Forms can be sent to; a66challengerregistry61@yahoo.com
Additional A-66 information and Registry Form also available on Facebook's"ChallengerA66Group" site.
Quote from: 340challconvert on April 26, 2020, 02:19:48 PM
As always, I would enjoy hearing from other A-66 owners and invite you to add your name to the A-66 Registry
https://www.forebodiesonly.com/forum/attachments/1970-challenger-a66-registration-form-feb-2020-2-pdf.68777/
Forms can be sent to; a66challengerregistry61@yahoo.com
Additional A-66 information and Registry Form also available on Facebook's"ChallengerA66Group" site.
... And on www.a66challenger.com if you are not the Facebook type... :yes:
Ben
I posted on this thread back on March 10th that I had emailed about questions that I have. As of today, still no reply.
Hi 198
Went looking for your email to address questions you may have.
Did you send the email to http://www.a66challenger.com/
or a66challengerregistry61@yahoo.com
Do you go under another name on your e mail
Please send any questions you may have to A66 Registry yahoo address,
Thanks
Phil
Found a pic of a nice A66 Challenger convertible in my older A-66 files (unidentified)
Looks to be B-5 blue, black interior and top, automatic, with a rallye dash, chrome driver's mirror, rallye wheels, with the grill painted black w an RT emblem. Very clean looking trunk for a convertible (non-restored?) Metal 340 hood call outs and chrome gas cap. NICE A66 vert.
Any one know about or own this car?
Here is what I have on my A66. Since the original motor and Trans were gone I restored it MY way. I sold the car in the 90's to a guy in Maryland. I saw it at Carlisle a for the first few years after I sold it. He may still have it. I know it was a late built car and was the last 340-4sp Galen had on record at that time. Use any info you need for the registry.
JS27
Quote from: js27 on May 27, 2020, 06:46:23 AM
Here is what I have on my A66. Since the original motor and Trans were gone I restored it MY way. I sold the car in the 90's to a guy in Maryland. I saw it at Carlisle a for the first few years after I sold it. He may still have it. I know it was a late built car and was the last 340-4sp Galen had on record at that time. Use any info you need for the registry.
JS27
jsThanks for posting the information on your A66 Challenger. I will add it to the A66 Registry so it is on file.You did an exceptional job of rebuilding her into an RT.
It is the latest A66 SPD I have on file in the Registry to date.
Anyone remember this A66 Challenger 4 sp that was restored by the original owner (Mom) about 6 years ago and was featured in Mopar Muscle? :thinking:
Mom is Linda C in Pennsylvania and bought the car new in B5 Blue with a white interior and top.
Hope Mom's A 66 Challenger is alive and well!
As always; any A66 Challenger owners are welcome and encouraged to add their car to the A66 Challenger Registry. :handshake:
This registry focuses only on the A66 cars.
As this registry expands with new information, I can cite better and more accurate information and data about our cars.
Every A66 Challenger owner is WELCOME!
Registry forms available on;
https://a66challenger.com/?fbclid=IwAR2jvShuOsaOsiSGPnQNFTR985AGcwex_STrhIbGqEoPB96fp9uxXE0hIc8
Nice original color FM3 A66 Challenger
Thanks for the posting! I picked up on it, not many Panther Challenger A66's around
A point of interest is continually raised specific to A66 Challengers in the application of the V-8 fender emblem on A66 Challengers?
One of the reasons I included the designation of V-8 emblems on the A66 Registry Form is to determine how early or late the emblem was used on the A66 Challengers.
It continues to be a question for many A66 owners. Was the V8 emblem put on the early A66 Challengers during the time that the metal call outs were not yet ready? The use of 340 hood decals could be related to this question, as early A66's did not have the metal callouts on the hood until just about December (give or take).
When submitting a formal Registry Form, I would be able to compare and contrast the data. Were the V8 emblems used on just the early cars with decals, later with the metal callouts, or for that matter; was there a difference in using V8 emblems between the LA and Hamtramck plants?
Registering your A66 cars can help answer these questions, or at least to narrow down approximate dates where the emblem was used.
All A66 cars welcome!
[IMG] Here is a link to the form: https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/d0f32791-4881-4f68-933c-6c189d61bccb/downloads/1970-Challenger-A66-Registration-Form-March%2020.pdf?ver=1585576002523
Stunning A66 Challenger in Hemi Orange with a 4speed and white bumble stripe listed on Ebay with an asking price of $59.5K.
Appears to be all numbers matching, regular dash, and factory hood pins. Great cloth interior
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Challenger-/143639260171
Great idea!
If possible, I think it would be really cool to have more of a web-based form that requires a login-sign in. I think you may get more forms that way. For example, if I fill out a PDF, I'm going to need to know 100% of the information up front (some of it may take an our or so to dig up and needing to crawl under the car with a light to get). But if there was a way I could submit information when I have the time, I would have already submitted a "partial" registry and would definitely log back in to build upon it. It could be a good place to also have users submit photos and such. Just an idea.
The form isn't a whole lot to ask, but some of the information I have locked in a file cabinet in a folder somewhere, in emails, and lose forms here and there.
There's also the 14" -> 15" rally change as well. Or was that something that went 15" -> 14" -> 15". :)
kawahonda
Thanks for your thoughts
I enjoy tracking the statistics on our A66 Challengers
Since I started the A66 specific registry in March, I now have data on about 120 A66 cars.
I should have noted that the A66 Registry Form is currently a PDF Form and is available here, on FEBO, on Facebook and on the "a66challenger.com" website.
Owners are downloading the pdf form to fill out, then send/download them to the A66 Challenger Registry site; a66challengerregistry61@yahoo.com
Any registrations are welcome and appreciated.
Quote from: kawahonda on June 24, 2020, 11:06:04 AM
Great idea!
If possible, I think it would be really cool to have more of a web-based form that requires a login-sign in. I think you may get more forms that way. For example, if I fill out a PDF, I'm going to need to know 100% of the information up front (some of it may take an our or so to dig up and needing to crawl under the car with a light to get). But if there was a way I could submit information when I have the time, I would have already submitted a "partial" registry and would definitely log back in to build upon it. It could be a good place to also have users submit photos and such. Just an idea.
The form isn't a whole lot to ask, but some of the information I have locked in a file cabinet in a folder somewhere, in emails, and lose forms here and there.
There's also the 14" -> 15" rally change as well. Or was that something that went 15" -> 14" -> 15". :)
kawahondaI saw the intensive work you put in to your brake rebuild. NICE JOBI noticed from the pics that you have an A66 with the V-8 emblems,
Does your car have the 340 decals on the hood or the metal callouts?
If you do decide to submit a Registration Form; here is the actual address for submission.
a66challengerregistry61@yahoo.comSome A66 owners take a short cut and just post the information here on ebodies.org too.
Right now I have only 4 verified A66 Challengers with V8 emblems on file.
I hope to expand the information on the "V8" emblem cars.
Thanks
Phil
All A66 cars welcome to join the A66 Registry
Here is a link to the form: https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/d0f32791-4881-4f68-933c-6c189d61bccb/downloads/1970-Challenger-A66-Registration-Form-March%2020.pdf?ver=1585576002523
FORMS SHOULD BE SENT TO THE REGISTRY WEBSITE: A66CHALLENGERREGISTRY61@YAHOO.COM
How many cars do you now have in your registry ?
Quote from: anlauto on June 26, 2020, 09:33:07 AM
How many cars do you now have in your registry ?
A66 Registry initiated in March 2020 (only A66 Challengers)Currently, there is data (partial and complete) on 124 A66 Challengers
Earliest SPD: 929
Latest SPD: 708
This includes: 81 hardtops, and 43 convertibles
3 A66 WSS Challengers
Most common color in Registry FK5 12%
Quote from: 340challconvert on June 26, 2020, 10:24:05 AM
Quote from: anlauto on June 26, 2020, 09:33:07 AM
How many cars do you now have in your registry ?
A66 Registry initiated in March 2020 (only A66 Challengers)
Currently, there is data (partial and complete) on 124 A66 Challengers
Earliest SPD: 929
Latest SPD: 708
This includes: 81 hardtops, and 43 convertibles
Hey, that's pretty excellent, good job :worship: :drinkingbud:
part of the A66 package was RWL tires early (U82 E60-15s) VS. late (T87 F70-14s)
the early ~$250 package mandated the additional OPTIONs: Rallye wheels & space-saver spare - this caused the 340 JH car to be as expensive as a 383 JS car - not good!
a 10/28 scheduled (November built) 340 car currently on eBay - the window sticker shows a $47.95- credit for 14" tires ..... & NO space-saver
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Challenger/143639260171?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
I don't recall if the repriced "LATE A66" package mandated a wheel OPTION ??? does the registry have info (BS or WS) that show an A66 car with hub caps or wheel covers?
I found a b'cast sheet for a black A66 Challenger with RWL F70-14s & "deluxe" wheel covers (W11)
Mine was a November A66 with grandpa-sized 14" Ralleyes. :(
I just thought I heard somewhere that they started with 15s, then cost reduced to 14s', then raised it back up again....
From the last posts I still don't understand I guess. Good picture--it shows that A66s came with 14s as standard. Curious if that was always true throughout 1970.
EARLY A66 9/69 - 10/69 E60-15 tires STANDARD
LATE A66 11/69 - 7/70 F70-14 tires STANDARD, E60-15 tires OPTIONAL
So I was partially remembering correctly.
What makes it also stupid weird is:
Early A66s: 15" Ralleyes, Hood Decals
Late A66s: 14" Ralleyes, Hood badges
Intermediate A66s: 14" Ralleyes, Hood Decals. Do I have the only not-yet-registered intermediate A66?
Then there's the "V8" fender thing, which I have assumed every A66 got. That would be interesting to map out too.
Mine was delivered to its owner in December 14, 1969. Scheduled build date was November 3rd.
A lot of good discussion here;
6bblgt broke down the tire size change nicely
and nice catch on the credit for the F70-14 tires on the ebay car.
I currently track the only tire code on A66 Registry cars (need a build sheet or Monroney sticker to know hub caps or wheel covers for sure.) I do track if I have a build sheet (currently 12 out of 120 cars in the Registry)
I will add a tracking column for Monroney sheets. I believe I have very few for registered cars.
The Dodge Dealer Data book only indicated the T87 option on the October 20 notice; no mention of wheels with the early 9/23 version specifically listed the 15" rallyes.
per the '70 Dodge "salesman's pocket guide" 9/23/69 version:
CODE A66 - Challenger 340 CID engine package - $258.90
NA Special Edition (29), NA R/T (JS)
15" Rallye wheels (W21) - required at EXTRA cost
collapsable spare (W34) - required at EXTRA cost
"10/20/69:
Effective immediately, F70x14-inch RWL tires (T87) are standard with the 340 Performance Package. The E60x15-inch tires (U82) will be optional at extra cost. The Collapsible Spare (W34) and Rallye Wheels will no longer be required with the 340 Package. A Rear Spoiler in Dull Black (J81) will be available in early November. Effective immediately, Performance Axle Packages A31 and A36 are available with the 340 Package.
=================================================
kawahonda; it would make sense that your November 1969 would have the F70-14 standard tires with a delivery of December 14th. unless otherwise ordered.
My A66 vert had a SPD of October 6 and was delivered on November 17th (I have the 15" rallye wheels.)
Specific to the V-8 fender emblems and decal/metal callouts; I now track that information for each car. It roughly seems at this point that the cars receiving the V8 emblems coincides with the use of the decals. The metal call outs came out roughly late November/early December and eliminated the need for the V8 emblems. Remember they never planned to initially offer the 340 engine in a Challenger; hence the decals short term. The data so far seems to support this.
Of course the more registrations; the more I can assess this question.
How many 14" wheels + hood decals do you have registered?
Also a curiosity, not so much A66, but it would be interesting if anyone has seen "J" heads on a 340 for a 1970 car. Some people will argue yes, but there has been no proof.
plenty of "J" heads for 1970 340s - just none of them during calendar year 1969 (where the changeover from "X" cast #2531894 to "JUO" cast #3418915 is the question)
Quote from: 6bblgt on June 27, 2020, 01:36:16 PM
plenty of "J" heads for 1970 340s - just none of them during calendar year 1969 (where the changeover from "X" cast #2531894 to "JUO" cast #3418915 is the question)
Yep, and if 100% true, I have myself a conundrum when I rebuild my 340, which has J-heads. My guess is the owner had a "head rebuild" and they just used off-the-shelf J-heads. Do I invest a boatload of money in X-heads (which are not any better as long as the J heads have 2.02 valves), or just refurbish my current heads. Current engine has great compression. How important is it to see that "X" for a 1970 Challenger that was built in November '69?
How far down the rabbit hole do you want to go. I guess that's for me to answer. It doesn't make sense paying $1000 for rusted "X" heads that are not better than what I have. Ugh. At some point, the history of the car becomes more important than A66 history. The man had a head rebuild and the shop used "J" heads. That's part of the car's history, which I have documented more than A66 history. Slapping on "X" heads erases that.
My thought is that the "J" heads belong on the car, and will stay..even with a blue-printed rebuild.
Quote from: kawahonda on June 27, 2020, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on June 27, 2020, 01:36:16 PM
plenty of "J" heads for 1970 340s - just none of them during calendar year 1969 (where the changeover from "X" cast #2531894 to "JUO" cast #3418915 is the question)
Yep, and if 100% true, I have myself a conundrum when I rebuild my 340, which has J-heads. My guess is the owner had a "head rebuild" and they just used off-the-shelf J-heads. Do I invest a boatload of money in X-heads (which are not any better as long as the J heads have 2.02 valves), or just refurbish my current heads. Current engine has great compression. How important is it to see that "X" for a 1970 Challenger that was built in November '69?
How far down the rabbit hole do you want to go. I guess that's for me to answer. It doesn't make sense paying $1000 for rusted "X" heads that are not better than what I have. Ugh. At some point, the history of the car becomes more important than A66 history. The man had a head rebuild and the shop used "J" heads. That's part of the car's history, which I have documented more than A66 history. Slapping on "X" heads erases that.
My thought is that the "J" heads belong on the car, and will stay..even with a blue-printed rebuild.
Just some information on X Heads, really no big advantage of one over the other:894 heads: 1} ~ #2531894 'X-Head'................July 1967 - thru - October 1970 'Casting'
Note; Called the 'X-Head'Note; Generally considered the 'best' 340 Cylinder Head. Consistent 'Port Measurements' of 160 CC's Intake and 70 CC's Exhaust.
Note; The 'tightest' Combustion Chambers with levels between {67.0 to 69.0 CC's}.
Note; The 'X-Head' has the best Intake CFM Flow at High RPM's.
2} ~ #2531894 'X-Head'........................ October 1970 - thru - June 1971 'Casting'Note; Also with consistent 'Port Measurements' of 160 CC's Intake and 70 CC's Exhaust.
Note; These later 'X-Head' Castings will have approximately +2.0 CC greater Combustion Chamber volume, usually between {69.0 to 72.0 CC's}.
Note; When these later Castings were machined by the Factory, less material was removed from the Head Deck Surface than early Castings.
Note; This was done to lower the 340 Engine's Compression Ratio from 10.5-1 to 10.3-1 to meet the EPA's Emissions at lower RPM's.
x heads vs others;
1968-1969-(first half) 1970 model year 340s used "X" heads cast # 2531894 with 2.02"/1.60" valves
(second half) 1970-1972 model year 340s used "J", "O", "U", "Z" heads cast # 3418915with 2.02"/1.60" valves (at some point & on 360s with 1.88"/1.60" valves)
340+6 T/A heads are "J", "O", "U", "Z" heads cast # 3418915 with offset intake pushrod holes and 2.02"/1.60" valves
1973 model year 340s used heads cast # 3671587 with 1.88"/1.60" valves (also used on 360s)
Going back into an old file; found a beautiful A66 y1, 4 speed car with a black interior and black bumble. Car has pdb, and chrome Magnum 500 wheels w e60-15 tires and Black out hood. Sold for a very reasonable $35K in the April 2014 Mecum auction
Here's a shot of my A66 with some new deeper dish 15x8 TT's.
Quote from: Mark_B on July 23, 2020, 02:05:58 AM
Here's a shot of my A66 with some new deeper dish 15x8 TT's.
Looking really good. I like the stance of the car with the deep dish wheels! :drinkingbud:
The RT style side stripe really sets the car off.
The A66 Registry now has full or partial data on 129 A66 cars.
I drill down as specific as possible on option details so that I can determine percentages of certain details. I am started to see patterns in color selections, when V8 emblems were used, when hood decals/metal callouts were started/ended, ratio of automatics to 4 speeds, build dates, percentages of cars with the A62 rallye dash, how many of our cars came w factory AC, what type of radio was factory installed, how many factory hood pin cars?, how many rare WSS A66 Challengers were made?.
This is just part of what I track. As always; registering your car will help the information grow. Thank you[ :driving:
Thanks. I used a none designated stripe, so it's not pretending to be an R/T.
@ Mark_B, great looking car. Can you post some pics showing the side view with the new TTs? I'm thinking about getting some day-2 wheels for my car and keep going back and forth between Torq Thrusts and slots.
Here we go.
A66 Go Mango/orange interior 4 speep, Project car For Sale with most parts going with it. Non original motor. Chassis looks very clean and needs assembly. Car is in Texas
http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/dodge/414635-rare-1970-dodge-challenger-340-4-speed-a66-package-car-rare.html
Would love to see the tag on this one! N96 would be a coup! :wrenching:
Not an original N96, unfortunately! Not a very long window of opportunity to get a Shaker on an A66, as it was made available on April 13, so less than three months... Have not seen any yet,
@6bblgt (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/6bblgt_211) , any numbers on N96 production, combined with A66?
THis one does have C15 Deluxe Belts, also a rare option!
Ben
Quote from: 340challconvert on March 25, 2020, 07:43:01 AM
Found an interesting video of a 1970 A66 Challenger in hemi-orange and black bumble stripe. Anyone know this car? Posted February 2012
https://youtu.be/Zh1mrrqq3As
A-66
Registry
Yes, I know the owner well. He is a member here. If he has not piped up, I'll have to assume he prefers not to. Car is still alive and well. :)
I was floating around FEBO and came across a thread about the A66 Challengers. Questions were popping up about A66 cars having R/T emblems on them. I've owned my A66 for 30 years. It had emblems on it when I bought it and I just assumed that some PO had put them on. Is there any indication that they could have been factory or maybe dealer installed, or just purely speculation? The car is going in for an extensive resto and if there is any chance that they were there from the beginning, I want to put them back. Thoughts? :dunno:
Quote from: 340Challman on August 04, 2020, 01:53:39 PM
I was floating around FEBO and came across a thread about the A66 Challengers. Questions were popping up about A66 cars having R/T emblems on them. I've owned my A66 for 30 years. It had emblems on it when I bought it and I just assumed that some PO had put them on. Is there any indication that they could have been factory or maybe dealer installed, or just purely speculation? The car is going in for an extensive resto and if there is any chance that they were there from the beginning, I want to put them back. Thoughts? :dunno:
Wéll, as has been said before, never say never with Chrysler's infamous quality control in the 60's-70's..... But all A66's are JH code, so none are supposed to have R/T emblems. I have pictures of my car litteraly since new sitting on the dealer lot, no R/T... Then some from 1973, and it has them on.... If you want to restore a car with an unusual or incorrect item, you need solid evidence it was really there when the car was on the trailer or on the lot.... Lots happened to those cars in the first couple years, still happens, look at all the new Challengers on the road with Hellcat or SRT badges!
Ben
Agreed. That's why I assumed that a previous owner did it. Well, it seems that there is no way to know for sure. The likelihood of finding someone that has prior knowledge of this car is unlikely. I bought the car in San Diego in 1990. B5 blue, 4 speed without console, tail stripe delete, AM 8 track with three speaker dash. Vinyl roof that was removed before I bought it. Car might not have been a California car since it had more rust than I would have expected for a local car. So could have come from anywhere. Someone installed a correct complete six pack setup on it. The air cleaner however is off of a 440 car. Also they put a Dana 60 with 4.10's in it as well. Correct E body Dana. Quite the conglomeration of parts. What can I say though, I love the car. :D
I was going to ask,
are there any A66 cars in the registry with the OPTIONAL "V6_" stripe?from another thread:
QuoteThat stripe was not an option on the A66, Bumblebee was standard, could be deleted, or body side moldings deleted it.
:stop: NOT TRUE
mid -year 1970 the "R/T" sport side stripe was available on Deputy, base Challenger and SE (
without the "R/T" cutout) but it was significantly "RARE"
of the ~60,000 non-R/T Challengers ~200 had the V6? side stripe
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 11:40:06 AM
I was going to ask, are there any A66 cars in the registry with the OPTIONAL "V6_" stripe?
from another thread:
QuoteThat stripe was not an option on the A66, Bumblebee was standard, could be deleted, or body side moldings deleted it.
:stop: NOT TRUE
mid -year 1970 the "R/T" sport side stripe was available on Deputy, base Challenger and SE (without the "R/T" cutout) but it was significantly "RARE"
of the ~60,000 non-R/T Challengers ~200 had the V6? side stripe
Thanks Dan,
I stand corrected... Do you have any bulletin, etc... on this? Since it was an option on cars without stripes, they'd still offer it on A66's?
Ben
FROM AN ORDERING STANDPOINT the 340 cars were "just" base Challengers with an "engine package", so yes they would be included with the stripe offering
I looked but can't locate the memo/bulletin/etc. that mentions it ....... I thought I had info on a 318 Mr. Norm's car with a side stripe, :-[ also unable to locate
but here's an A66 car 8)
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
the 340 cars were "just" base Challengers with an "engine package"
I have to respectfully disagree with you there. From everything I have read, the A66 has an almost identical suspension, Well it is identical to the 383 R/T cars. They had 383 torsion bars and HD suspension. Most had sway bars front and rear. An A66 car is for all intents and purposes a small block R/T car. :cheers:
Oh and my 340 4 speed A66 Challenger loses to my buddies 68 440 727 Charger R/T by about three feet. I'll take that. :banana:
Quote from: 340Challman on August 07, 2020, 05:44:18 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
the 340 cars were "just" base Challengers with an "engine package"
I have to respectfully disagree with you there. From everything I have read, the A66 has an almost identical suspension, Well it is identical to the 383 R/T cars. They had 383 torsion bars and HD suspension. Most had sway bars front and rear. An A66 car is for all intents and purposes a small block R/T car. :cheers:
Oh and my 340 4 speed A66 Challenger loses to my buddies 68 440 727 Charger R/T by about three feet. I'll take that. :banana:
Yeah, but if there is a dead man's curve at the end of the run you'll make the turn and be fine, but your buddy will suffer a different fate. 8)
Quote from: 340Challman on August 07, 2020, 05:44:18 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
the 340 cars were "just" base Challengers with an "engine package"
I have to respectfully disagree with you there. From everything I have read, the A66 has an almost identical suspension, Well it is identical to the 383 R/T cars. They had 383 torsion bars and HD suspension. Most had sway bars front and rear. An A66 car is for all intents and purposes a small block R/T car. :cheers:
Oh and my 340 4 speed A66 Challenger loses to my buddies 68 440 727 Charger R/T by about three feet. I'll take that. :banana:
Well said! Let's not forget the 340 was a performance engine from start . There is only one other power-plant that I'm aware of in the 1970 lineup that holds this distinction. We all know what that is! All other BB " performance" engines are just derivatives ! In that if one was to go digging they'll find a 2- barrel low compression variant very easily.
I'm glad they weren't branded with the "R/T" moniker. Makes them even that much more intriguing and charming!
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
the 340 cars were "just" base Challengers with an "engine package", so yes they would be included with the stripe offering
I looked but can't locate the memo/bulletin/etc. that mentions it ....... I thought I had info on a 318 Mr. Norm's car with a side stripe, :-[ also unable to locate
but here's an A66 car 8)
Wow, that's quite an interesting tag! Late car, A66, three-speed manual, N95, V6X... So V6 deletes V9?
Thanks for posting!
Ben
Quote from: 340Challman on August 07, 2020, 05:44:18 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
the 340 cars were "just" base Challengers with an "engine package"
I have to respectfully disagree with you there. From everything I have read, the A66 has an almost identical suspension, Well it is identical to the 383 R/T cars. They had 383 torsion bars and HD suspension. Most had sway bars front and rear. An A66 car is for all intents and purposes a small block R/T car. :cheers:
Oh and my 340 4 speed A66 Challenger loses to my buddies 68 440 727 Charger R/T by about three feet. I'll take that. :banana:
I think Dan's comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek, based on the fact that our A66 are JH models, even with all of the special equipment...
Ben
Quote from: 340Challman on August 07, 2020, 05:44:18 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
the 340 cars were "just" base Challengers with an "engine package"
I have to respectfully disagree with you there. From everything I have read, the A66 has an almost identical suspension, Well it is identical to the 383 R/T cars. They had 383 torsion bars and HD suspension. Most had sway bars front and rear. An A66 car is for all intents and purposes a small block R/T car. :cheers:
Oh and my 340 4 speed A66 Challenger loses to my buddies 68 440 727 Charger R/T by about three feet. I'll take that. :banana:
Sorry for being away the last few days; just got my power and internet back after the hurricane.
340 A66 cars came with HD brakes, suspension with the same front torsion bars as a 383 RT Challenger. The 727 trans on an automatic was a HD unit for the small block. Many A66 cars came with the 3:55/gearing and all had HD rear leaf springs. (And let us not forget the standard E60-15:",wheels on the early A66 cars). Yea they had the RT hood, bumble stripe, and bee in the window, but they were essentially an RT Challenger with a high performance small block and a JH serial code. Later in the model run, you could get different stripes, spoilers, a TA hood, and even a shaker on an A66 car. Rear sway bars were not standard on the package, but optional suspensions were available that included this. ( I believe the rear bars were standard on a TA) Interestingly, a high number of A66 Challengers came with front disc brakes as I expand on data from the A66 Registry. In 1971, RT Challengers could be ordered with a 340 (no A66 designation code) with basically the same standard and optional equipment. They were a little more then just a 340 engine! Cheers all Phil
:cheers:
Quote from: benlavigne on August 07, 2020, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: 340Challman on August 07, 2020, 05:44:18 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
the 340 cars were "just" base Challengers with an "engine package"
I have to respectfully disagree with you there. From everything I have read, the A66 has an almost identical suspension, Well it is identical to the 383 R/T cars. They had 383 torsion bars and HD suspension. Most had sway bars front and rear. An A66 car is for all intents and purposes a small block R/T car. :cheers:
Oh and my 340 4 speed A66 Challenger loses to my buddies 68 440 727 Charger R/T by about three feet. I'll take that. :banana:
I think Dan's comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek, based on the fact that our A66 are JH models, even with all of the special equipment...
Ben
Well, I hope I didn't come across as disrespectful or offensive. That was not my intent. I was merely standing up for my beloved, as we all would do. :grouphug:
As mentioned above, the V6 stripe did become available later in the model run. Pretty rare. Only way to tell is a build sheet. Keep the Registry forms and associated data coming. I would like to better track this rare option! I will review the Registry data on this; I have listed stripe codes when available.
Interestingly, Quite a few A66 Challengers with the factory hood stripe! (V21) on file.
Another reference point; standard torsion bars on an A66; 778-779. I am finding a few A66's with the 780-81 bars indicating the original owner ordered the xtra HD suspension. Wonder how many were ordered like that?
Phil
my comment was not to "dis" the 340 Challenger -
it was in reply to the question regarding the V6_ stripe being available on a car with an OPTIONAL package that includes a V9_ stripe
Quote from: 340Challman on August 07, 2020, 05:44:18 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
the 340 cars were "just" base Challengers with an "engine package"
I have to respectfully disagree with you there. From everything I have read, the A66 has an almost identical suspension, Well it is identical to the 383 R/T cars. They had 383 torsion bars and HD suspension. Most had sway bars front and rear. An A66 car is for all intents and purposes a small block R/T car. :cheers:
Oh and my 340 4 speed A66 Challenger loses to my buddies 68 440 727 Charger R/T by about three feet. I'll take that. :banana:
if you look at the big picture - for 1970 the fact that there was a 383HP Challenger R/T probably caused many discussions in Dodge's product planning - prior to 1970 all R/T cars were 440 or HEMI powered
rear sway bars for the e-bodies came out as part of the A53 "TRANS AM" package after which they were included with the S13 suspension (STANDARD in R/T & part of the A66 package)
Quote from: TA/Z06/GSXR1100 on August 07, 2020, 07:52:53 PM
Quote from: 340Challman on August 07, 2020, 05:44:18 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
the 340 cars were "just" base Challengers with an "engine package"
I have to respectfully disagree with you there. From everything I have read, the A66 has an almost identical suspension, Well it is identical to the 383 R/T cars. They had 383 torsion bars and HD suspension. Most had sway bars front and rear. An A66 car is for all intents and purposes a small block R/T car. :cheers:
Oh and my 340 4 speed A66 Challenger loses to my buddies 68 440 727 Charger R/T by about three feet. I'll take that. :banana:
Well said! Let's not forget the 340 was a performance engine from start . There is only one other power-plant that I'm aware of in the 1970 lineup that holds this distinction. We all know what that is! All other BB " performance" engines are just derivatives ! In that if one was to go digging they'll find a 2- barrel low compression variant very easily.
I'm glad they weren't branded with the "R/T" moniker. Makes them even that much more intriguing and charming!
so where exactly would someone find that 2bbl low performance 440 at?
Quote from: 340challconvert on August 07, 2020, 08:44:58 PM
Sorry for being away the last few days; just got my power and internet back after the hurricane.
340 A66 cars came with HD brakes, suspension with the same front torsion bars as a 383 RT Challenger. The 727 trans on an automatic was a HD unit for the small block. (it was a HD unit for the 340, there was no 727 for a passenger car 318) Many A66 cars came with the 3:55/gearing (I'd bet most were 3.23 OPEN) and all had HD rear leaf springs. Yea they had the RT hood, bumble stripe, and bee in the window, but they were essentially an RT Challenger see R/T comment above with a high performance small block and a JH serial code. Later in the model run, you could get different stripes, spoilers, a TA hood, and even a shaker on an A66 car. Rear sway bars were not standard on the package (again, the rear sway bar became part of S13 after the T/As existence), but optional suspensions were available that included this. Interestingly, a high number of A66 Challengers came with front disc brakes as I expand on data from the A66 Registry. In 1971, RT Challengers could be ordered with a 340 (no A66 designation code) with basically the same standard and optional equipment. They were a little more then just a 340 engine!
As mentioned above, the V6 stripe did become available later in the model run. Pretty rare. Only way to tell is a build sheet (or fender tag). Keep the Registry forms and associated data coming. I would like to better track this rare option! I will review the Registry data on this; I have listed stripe codes when available.
Interestingly, Quite a few A66 Challengers with the factory hood stripe! (V21) on file.
Another reference point; standard torsion bars on an A66; 778-779. I am finding a few A66's with the 780-81 bars indicating the original owner ordered the xtra HD suspension. Wonder how many were ordered like that? (I should have those numbers)
Phil
if an axle package was ordered A31 (3.91s) or A36 (3.55s) on an A66 Challenger, the "axle package" included the S15 (XHD suspension) torsion bars 780-781, leaf springs 024-034 & shocks and on a "LATE" car (A31, A36, S15) would eliminate the rear sway bar
I'm not looking to play 50 year old musclecar one-upmanship :whiteflag:
a 340 is "just" a performance variant of the first "LA" engine: 273
a 426 HEMI is "just" a performance variant of the first "RB" engine: 383 or 413, whichever came first
a 383HP is "just" a performance variant of the first "B" engine: 350
all are based on pedestrian transportation powerplants
GG's numbers on 1970 A66 Challengers with an axle package:
A31 (3.91s) ~152
A36 (3.55s) ~114
RARER than I thought they'd be
I have record of 7 with 3.91s & 6 with 3.55s (of those 13: 2 are 340 convertibles & 4 are 340 hardtops with rear window louvers :wowzers: )
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 08, 2020, 12:09:25 AM
GG's numbers on 1970 A66 Challengers with an axle package:
A31 (3.91s) ~152
A36 (3.55s) ~114
RARER than I thought they'd be
I have record of 7 with 3.91s & 6 with 3.55s (of those 13: 2 are 340 convertibles & 4 are 340 hardtops with rear window louvers :wowzers: )
Thanks again for sharing the info!
Mine is one of those 114 A66 hardtops with A44 Louvers... and A45 spoilers, V21, but only 14'' Road Wheels!
Ben
Quote from: benlavigne on August 07, 2020, 12:36:32 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 11:40:06 AM
I was going to ask, are there any A66 cars in the registry with the OPTIONAL "V6_" stripe?
from another thread:
QuoteThat stripe was not an option on the A66, Bumblebee was standard, could be deleted, or body side moldings deleted it.
:stop: NOT TRUE
mid -year 1970 the "R/T" sport side stripe was available on Deputy, base Challenger and SE (without the "R/T" cutout) but it was significantly "RARE"
of the ~60,000 non-R/T Challengers ~200 had the V6? side stripe
Thanks Dan,
I stand corrected... Do you have any bulletin, etc... on this? Since it was an option on cars without stripes, they'd still offer it on A66's?
Ben
Looking back at my notes, I see that V6 Stripe availability was announced on 02/12/70, on JH models, and as a no-extra-cost option with the 340 Performance Package...
Ben
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
FROM AN ORDERING STANDPOINT the 340 cars were "just" base Challengers with an "engine package", so yes they would be included with the stripe offering
I looked but can't locate the memo/bulletin/etc. that mentions it ....... I thought I had info on a 318 Mr. Norm's car with a side stripe, :-[ also unable to locate
but here's an A66 car 8)
@6bblgt (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/6bblgt_211) This has N95 California emissions, but also N42 chrome exhaust tips? Didn't N95 mandate turned-down tips?
Ben
Always found this time frame helpful (from Barry)
7/23/69:
The 340 Performance Package (A66) will be available on the hardtop and convertible models in conjunction with the 340 engine in early September. The 340 engine will only be available in combination with the 340 Performance Package.
10/20/69:
Effective immediately, F70x14-inch RWL tires (T87) are standard with the 340 Performance Package. The E60x15-inch tires (U82) will be optional at extra cost. The Collapsible Spare (W34) and Rallye Wheels will no longer be required with the 340 Package. A Rear Spoiler in Dull Black (J81) will be available in early November. Effective immediately, Performance Axle Packages A31 and A36 are available with the 340 Package.
2/12/70:
Longitudinal Tape Stripes on the Challenger high-Iine models (JH23, JH27, JH29) will be available in mid-March as an extra-cost option. Color availability and codes are: Black (V6X), White (V6W), Red (V6R), Green (V6F) and Blue (V6B). This tape stripe will be similar to the standard R/T stripe but without the R/T nomenclature. This stripe is a no-extra-cost option with the 340 Performance Package (A66).
4/13/70:
The Shaker Hood is now available on the Challenger R/T with the 440-6V and 426 engines. In addition, this hood is also available with the 340 Performance Package (A66) and will be available on the 383 and 440-4V engines on R/T models in late April. The Challenger T/A Fiberglass Hood (N94) is now available on all Challenger models with 4-barrel engines.
Quote from: benlavigne on August 07, 2020, 08:12:51 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on August 07, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
the 340 cars were "just" base Challengers with an "engine package", so yes they would be included with the stripe offering
I looked but can't locate the memo/bulletin/etc. that mentions it ....... I thought I had info on a 318 Mr. Norm's car with a side stripe, :-[ also unable to locate
but here's an A66 car 8)
Wow, that's quite an interesting tag! Late car, A66, three-speed manual, N95, V6X... So V6 deletes V9?
Thanks for posting!
Ben
@6bblgt (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/6bblgt_211) Here is another shot of the tag, and of the car, I am waiting on more info, looks like it's been modified with a Six-Pack setup, wonder if it's still a 3-speed? It does still have the V6X...
Ben
Looking good Ben; posting the plum crazy A66 Challenger
:yes:
Another TX9 A66 Challenger in my files; I have no other information on this beauty.
Automatic, black interior, black vinyl roof. non-rallye dash, 15" rallyes, and molding packages. Looks to have tinted glass and front bumper guards
A66 Challenger sold cheap on e bay for $31.6 k
Panther Pink 4 speed car. Added TA hood, 71 RT stripes, window louvers, TA spoiler and newer e body interior. No tag. Not sure it was an original Panther car?
A lot of incorrect add on's but reasonable price for a fun car. IMO Could be put back to original if there is any documentation. Does not look to be the case.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Challenger-NO-RESERVE/143676014509?hash=item2173c1ffad%3Ag%3AcXIAAOSwJoJfLMzb&LH_ItemCondition=3000%7C2500&fbclid=IwAR3doXZINUBwj5HADNEjm5FuD2OQeJKfH3wdahx2g8cSKK2DgBJHTNVVj2I
I don't see that as "cheap" - what are you getting for your $30K, a driver - nothing more & I see NO up-side :stop: it is way too early to be an original pink car
don't get blinded by that 340 VIN - what else is there of quality - NOT MUCH - it is a modified CHALLENGER with no claims and/or documentation
when the "TERMS of SALE OVERVIEW" is 10X longer than the description of the car, it's time to: see the car in person or run away!
6bbl
Your price premise may pan out yet; the pink A66 sale must have not gone through!
Car is back on auction and currently has been bid to $25.2 K with 18 bids from 9 bidders so far. :huh:
Last time there were over 30 bids that brought the price to the $31K winning bid.
Current auction ends in 9 days. Should be interesting
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Challenger-NO-RESERVE/143687496796?hash=item217471345c:g:fPcAAOSws-JfPHnP
Quote from: 340challconvert on August 19, 2020, 05:30:14 PM
6bbl
Your price premise may pan out yet; the pink A66 sale must have not gone through!
Car is back on auction and currently has been bid to $25.2 K with 18 bids from 9 bidders so far. :huh:
Last time there were over 30 bids that brought the price to the $31K winning bid.
Current auction ends in 9 days. Should be interesting
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Challenger-NO-RESERVE/143687496796?hash=item217471345c:g:fPcAAOSws-JfPHnP
Interesting enough; the Challenger sold for $32.3K with a total of 30 bids! :takemymoney:
Thank you to Ola for forwarding to Ben, data for a nice B5 blue, automatic A66 Challenger convertible.
:thankyou:
Interesting car; blue interior, white-power convertible top, and AC. Car was coded for the J54 sport hood, and had the V5B blue side stripes! Another one added to our Registry. Phil
A66 Challenger 4 sp w power windows found for sale on classiccar website. Customized. Original listing in late June 2020. No price listed
http://classiccardb.com/dodge/509594-nice-1970-dodge-challenger-real-h-code-340-pistol-grip-4-speed-car.html
Like that! Very rock n' roll.
Interesting modifications to the A66's dash
RJ was kind enough to pass on info on an A66 Challenger convertible in an auction. Car is rough and comes with an extra Challenger parts car!
http://americanclassicscars.com/.../28191778-1970-dodge...
I would like to welcome project-A66 to the A66 Challenger Registry.
He forwarded his tag; He is the proud owner of a green on green A66 Challenger with an Automatic, rallye dash, factory hood pins and a rare coded two tone factory paint. Great project project waiting to happen! It is an early build LA car A16.
Would be great to see that restored correctly with a painted roof...not many of those around :bigthumb:
Interesting A66 4 sp ad.
I cross referenced the ad to an old file I had with the same serial number; JH23 H0B 186988. Decoded, the factory color was listed as FY4 (light gold poly) with an H6F8 green interior.)
Car is now painted green, coded for a green vinyl top (now gone) Data codes listed (seller listing- not from tag) V88- tranverse stripe delete? and Y85? Car is in Grand Rapids, Michigan
Seller Listed tag info; Fender identification tag numbers are
26 EN2
M21 N41 N42 R11 V88 Y85
V1F A66 C16 C55 G31 G33
FY4 H6F8 000 B11 031428
E55 D21 JH23 HOB 186988
Engine Production Stamp
FW340P30370002
Engine Vin Stamp
0B186988
Trans Vin Stamp
0B186988
Trans Production Stamp
PP8333037
Listed with a 4:10 sure grip, dash w cracks, and elelbrock carb.
An A66 Challenger came up for sale in Escondido, California; Mopar Swap/Buy Face book site.
Needs some work from the mods made on the car, but appears to be a very solid Challenger. Was originally a plum crazy car, now in green. Claims original drivetrain. Seller asking $30.5k.
Some mods to the above A66 challenger that would need to be corrected
Color change from plum crazy
71 stripe
Newer rallye dash
Interior
Dash replacement/repair
Need to change to 3 speed wiper since rallye dash added
A66 Challenger convertible for Sale
A66 Challenger CONVERTIBLE listed on topclassiccars. 4 sp car in my favorite color B7. Not highly optioned. Does have a white interior and white power top. stripe delete car. Seller looking for Forty Five K. Galen decoded
http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/.../431876-1970-dodge...
2nd A66 Challenger convertible For Sale (more of a project)
Another A66 Convertible project (needs torsion bar frame work) automatic up for sale. Owner claims matching numbers w 43k miles.
Nice color combo; FK5 w matching color interior with white vert top and bumble bee stripe. Another power top car!🤓 Car is in New Jersey, down the shore in Beach Haven.
Car has rallye wheels (unknown size) hood has no holes for emblems (early decal car?) Regular dash w after market radio
http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/dodge/348320-1970-dodge-challenger-convertible-340-performance-package-mopar-cuda-charger.html
I kept tabs on this A66 Challenger convertible that was for sale on Fast Lane back in May of 2011. Nice, loaded A66 vert, automatic with ps, pb, pw, 6 way seat and factory AC. Car also has hood pins, rim blow wheel and is in FK5/black. Car was sold somewhere down the line. I have it originally listed on Mid American auction and sold in March, 2010. I do have a file on it as JH23 H0B 171654. Anyone know of this car? https://youtu.be/8hHqFWk1XEA
Stunning and well equipped A66 vert;
Thanks to Chris K's info; with his tip on Farlandcars. Looks like they detailed the car and sold it to someone in the Mid-West. Apparently they buffed the paint out, re-jetted the carb and did some electrical repairs. I looked up Farland's completed projects and the A66 vert came up. Car is still wearing the RT emblems that were on it 20 years ago. Thanks for the tip. 🤓 https://farlandcars.com/arch.../1970-dodge-challenger-rt-340#
Mystery A66 Challenger blue convertible build sheet;
Came across an old post on dodgechallenger.com. Poster found a build sheet in the back seat of his WSS 318 Challenger for an A66 convertible. Poster, Dan lives in Glenwood, Iowa (70westernsport) Only have a Vin from the posting from July 2006.
Anyone know about this car? JH27 H0B 379264 :thinking:
Picture I had on file of a very sad A66 Challenger. Anyone know of this car? :wrenching:
Found a post on Classic Nation about "the aggressive" look of a 70 Challenger convertible.
Posted about 5 years ago. Listed as an RT; has 340 emblems and added RT emblems.
Black with white interior. Looks to have the 15" rallye wheels.
Very likely an A66 convertible
https://www.classicnation.com/this-aggressive-1970-dodge-challenger-convertible-looks-excellent-in-black/
Tom Roland A66 Registry;
Still looking for his A66 70 Challenger
JH23 H0B 169296 :thinking:
Thanks to Ola on this
A66 Challenger was converted to a SS 440-6 race car way back.
Car is now for sale
Looking to clarify the serial number for the Registry,
Anyone want to take a shot at it; difficulty reading one number of the serial number.
I am reading; JH23 H0B 1_5312 Missing number possible a 5?
I would GUESS "8" maybe :huh:
How man cars do you have in your registry now ?
There's a tiny chance the convertible I posted this morning in the "eBay ad" section is an A66 ??
:iagree: 0B185312
Looks to be an A66 4 speed that went through Mecum on Friday.
Black on black with a 6 pak added. 3:91 gears with some upgrades: firm feel steering, and rebuilt carbs by Scott Smith (Harm's)
Compensation on this one- $68.2 K
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0521-479409/1970-dodge-challenger/
Black Challenger turned out to be a 318 car cloned as an A66. Top price paid on this one :takemymoney:
Alan
As of May, 2021; there are over 150 partial and or full A66 cars in the Registry.
Along with what is formally submitted, I scope out what comes up at auctions, for sale ads and other related Mopar web sites. I also note and record any info on an A66 car I cannot ascertain a serial number for possible future correlation.
I also note cars that have "special" designations" or options such as a WSS A66 cars, A66 cars that come with V-8 fender emblems, moulding groups, 6 way seats, window louvers, and sunroof cars along with other more common options. The more data obtained allows a really cool drill down of the A66 cars.
Phil
I sent you a PM with a VIN number wondering if it's in your registry, a friend just bought it.
I also recently posted an A66 car in the Interesting Ebay section, did you get that info ?
A Back in the Day pic of an A66 Challenger vert
(courtesy of A66 Registry registrant Jeff Coe; his former car)
The car is a plum crazy/white interior automatic A66 which was sold to Australia. Was for sale in Hemmings in November 2019 for $75K Car is listed in the A66 Registry,
Challenger A66 (unidentified) Thanks to Dan G. Check out the Colorado license plate
Mecum Blast from the Past.
A66 Challenger 4 sp in Y1 w original V-8 emblems sold at Mecum Houston in April 2014 for $35K
Looks like auction prices have increased for clean A66 cars in the last 7 years. I think this car was picked up back then and has been put up for sale at a significantly higher price more recently!
A66 Challenger, a 4 speed car.
An original Panther Pink car now painted black. Matching numbers, AC car. Needs restoration. On e bay now.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165043437828
Currently bid to $13.1k
I was asking you about this car back in May when my friend bought it...You never answered my PM, but I had all sorts of photos and the tag to share at the time. Then the guy returned my buddies deposit, so I never pursued it... :dunno:
Quote from: anlauto on September 01, 2021, 04:46:40 AM
I was asking you about this car back in May when my friend bought it...You never answered my PM, but I had all sorts of photos and the tag to share at the time. Then the guy returned my buddies deposit, so I never pursued it... :dunno:
Sorry about not getting back to you. Busy spring/early summer with a new grandchild and daughter moving back to New Jersey.This is an interesting car; There is an almost duplicate to this car in the registry with a very close serial number (898), but is an automatic car. Both were built on April 2nd. Order numbers are also VERY close; 501 vs 503. Both are Y16 sales bank cars. These two a66 cars are the closest A66 Challengers we have in the Registry.
It was also televised as part of a Graveyard Cars episode (Season 14 episode 3)
Any information you have on this A66 would be greatly appreciated.Thanks, Phil
Quote from: 340challconvert on September 01, 2021, 04:38:31 AM
Currently bid to $13.1k
Has reached $16,3K with three days left to the auction
The topic of when A66 Challengers were coded with the J54 sport hood on the fender tag continually comes up. Based on the A66 Challenger Registry, here is the breakdown;
Total of partial or full information on 185 A66 Challengers as of October 2021
A total of 37 A66 Challengers IN THE REGISTRY have the J54 code.
HOE coded cars = 5 (1 Jan, 1 Feb, 3 April)
HOB coded cars = 31.
No cars for October, November or December. (3-January, 2-Feb, 6-March, 2-April, 4-May, 10-June and 3-July)
----+++++Bottom line; ALL J54 cars are coded starting in January on -
Info corrected
My understanding concerning the J54 code is the following:
The sport hood J54 became available on standard Challengers at a certain time. I don't remember the exact date, but I'd say there is some kind of bulletin/introduction sheet announcing it. I would have to dig for it.
Consequently it makes sense that starting at about that date the hood needed a code on the tag (and BS). To mount a sport hood on a standard Challenger the code was necessary. That was about the same date the code J54 appeared on the cars that had it as standard, R/Ts and A66s. My personal notes say the first J54-coded A66 was scheduled at the end of January (L.A.) and early December for Hamtramck cars. It doesn't make sense to me if a car built in November or earlier shows the J54 code.
Quote from: JS23U on November 23, 2021, 01:02:22 AM
My understanding concerning the J54 code is the following:
The sport hood J54 became available on standard Challengers at a certain time. I don't remember the exact date, but I'd say there is some kind of bulletin/introduction sheet announcing it. I would have to dig for it.
Consequently it makes sense that starting at about that date the hood needed a code on the tag (and BS). To mount a sport hood on a standard Challenger the code was necessary. That was about the same date the code J54 appeared on the cars that had it as standard, R/Ts and A66s. My personal notes say the first J54-coded A66 was scheduled at the end of January (L.A.) and early December for Hamtramck cars. It doesn't make sense to me if a car built in November or earlier shows the J54 code.
Thanks for your thoughts! Your data coincides with what I see in the A66 Registry. Hamtramck A66 Challengers look to be coded from January 1970 on . HOE A66 California cars also started to be coded in January.
JS23U; I went back to the full file on the potential early build A66 with a code of J54 sport hood. Glad you pointed this out. The tag only was submitted to the A66 Registry and was difficult to read (was posted backwards) Who Knows Why? The tag decode list that came with the tag was incorrect. It is an A66 Challenger with a SPD of June 18th. (partial serial number with blocked out numbers) and is coded J54. So JS23U; thank you for pointing this out. The January on-ward J54 code is still accurate based on the Registry data. :iagree:
the "sport hood" J54 was never a stand-alone OPTION on any Challenger - at any date 1969-1974
it was STANDARD on R/T (1970-'71) & Rallye (1972) cars "JS"
it was part of an OPTION package A66 (1970) or A57 (1973-'74)
and
it was included with the purchase of a 340 4bbl (1971-'73) or 360 4bbl (1974) engine
Dan, thanks for the input! So the single J54 hood was only an option for Barracudas and Gran Coupes !? I thought it included Challengers, my bad. Anyway, even that should still have been the reason for adding the code to the tags and BSs.
JS23U
You mentioned that you have notes on Hamtramck A66 Challengers coded J54 in December. As I mentioned above, the A66 Registry's earliest coded Hamtramck J54 is in January. Could we share the information you have on the December H0B A66 cars so I can update the Registry? It would help to have the data when questions come up from A66 owners on this code.
Thanks
Phil
340challconvert
Just sent you a pm
RJ
Would be great to fill out the form or post the info you have. Every bit of info is valuable. The serial numbers in the A66 Registry are sequential and when I add your info, I can see where your car sits in relation to other cars around the same or close build dates. You are also formally documented as the owner. Every entry is important and I look forward to adding your car. There are now records on over 170 A66 Challengers and growing.
Thanks
Phil
RJ
I matched your serial number against A66 Registry data.
There is a Hamtramck built car in the Registry very close to yours 868 vs 873 with a scheduled build date of May 21, 1970. The 351873 was a Y07 Canadian built car. Most likely your car was also built for Canada on or close to the May 21st date.
Below is the link if you have not already checked it out.
Thanks
Phil
https://www.facebook.com/groups/744982502372801/
A66 Registry member looking for his A66 convertible;
FE5 w red interior black top and white bumble. Automatic trans. Sold 20 years ago. Any leads appreciated and will be forwarded.
Beautiful A66 Challenger, automatic with a great color combination with the white interior and side stripe.
This A66 has a rallye dash, factory am fm thumbwheel radio and the rim blow wheel. Thank you to Mark L for posting on the A66 Registry site.
A66 Resto Mod on Barrett Jackson up for auction.
Lot #1272 1970 DODGE CHALLENGER CUSTOM COUPE
Heavily modified with 5.7 hemi and 5 sp manual
Custom green with many up-dates
Another A66 resto-modded
NICE CAR; Wish it still had the 340.
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1970-DODGE-CHALLENGER-CUSTOM-COUPE-253649
Beautiful A66 4speed convertible green/black w black bumble on Pinterest
A66 Challenger automatic was auctioned in January 2022. Anyone know if it was sold? Looks to be still on the market!
(Raleighclassics.com) Nice car with matching numbers, rallye dash, AC, burnt orange w matching color interior. Came with build sheet. California car https://www.raleighclassic.com/.../1970-dodge-challenger
Thanks to Dan G for sharing a back in the day ad for an A66 340 for $2300
"A66 Registry Retread"
This beautiful A66 Challenger convertible 4 speed (one of 66 made) was sold at Mecum Harrisburg, July 2015 for $75K. Seller at the time claimed it was the last 340 Challenger convertible made in 1970. It is a late serial number car (390295). It is the highest SN convertible number in our Registry. Sold with 88.6k miles at the time. Original sales highlights includes a copy of the original Monroney sticker. Enjoy
https://www.mecum.com/lots/PA0715-217213/
Beautiful A66 Challenger convertible in black, day after RT emblems
Quote from: 340challconvert on April 28, 2022, 05:35:01 AM
Beautiful A66 Challenger convertible in black, day after RT emblems
European owner has since removed the "offending" additions. (wheel well chrome, RT emblems) 8)
Interesting data on A66 serial numbers and production plants from the A66 Challenger Registry;
Here is some data; What is interesting are the date codes in relation to serial numbers and order numbers against specific plant production.
The earliest SPD in the A66 Registry is an HOE car with a 9/29 date and SN starting with 108.
(Keep in mind that the A66 package was a late production decision and they did not become "formally" available until mid October 1969.)
The earliest A66 HOB car is dated 9/22 w a SN starting with 130, with heavy Hamtramck production in October, November and December.
Early serial numbers 108 though about 129 was all HOE (as per the A66 cars in Registry) September through December. 🤓
On the later end of A66 Production (as per the Registry);
The latest listed HOE hardtop is dated May, 1970 (door sticker only) w a SN starting with 143.
No A66 verts were ever made or listed for H0E.
The last H0B hardtop listed is dated 708 w a SN starting with 421. The latest listed H0B vert is dated 622 with a SN starting with 390. 🤓
This beautiful A66 4 speed Challenger sold back in December for $46.9K, on e bay from Blueline Classics. Was FE5 now white. Some day two mods (interior, wheels)
The question of the use of 340 hood decals vs the metal callout emblems continually comes up as a question about their usage on Mopar sites. Just some thoughts on this
if you are unfamiliar. The A66 package was a late addition to the 70 Challenger lineup. Ma Mopar originally planned to not offer the 340 in the Challenger. The A66 package was not formally available until October. No metal 340 callouts were available yet and the decals were quickly made as callouts and used in production September/October through about December when the metal emblems finally became available.
The 340 decals had a factory part number.
My faded originals;
A66 Challenger vert from the Registry Archives. Nice color combination. Anyone own this one?
thought about this over the weekend :looney:
all 1970 Challenger R/Ts (JS) have the "sport" hood with engine callout emblems - someone mentioned these hoods would be pre-pierced with holes for the emblems (all in the same locations & spacing)
late to the party, along comes the A66 340 engine package for the base Challenger (JH) - the emblems are not ready yet and stickers have a shorter lead time, so Dodge puts in an order for stickers
BUT - now Dodge needs a hood without the pre-pierced emblem holes, so Dodge puts in an order for "sport" hoods without emblem holes
could the flat hood 340 cars exist because the assembly plant randomly ran out of the now needed "sport" hoods without emblem holes early in the model year because there was a limited supply :crazytalk:
On a 1970 A66 340 Challenger SPD C09 What is correct air cleaning used.
Bob
Quote from: VCODE on November 21, 2022, 06:47:56 AM
On a 1970 A66 340 Challenger SPD C09 What is correct air cleaning used.
Bob
Bob, the 4 barrel 70-71 340 used a non restrictive (no extensions) air cleaner with opening on both sides,
2nd pic of the inside of the 340 air cleaner
Thank You
Does anyone please know if the A66 was referred to as a 340 Scat Pack? It wasn't mentioned in the 1970 Scat Pack brochure but it had the decal of the rear quarter windows.
Color Percentages of EW1 A66 Challengers listed in the A66 Registry; A member of a forum wanted to know how many A66 Challengers were in the A66 Registry that are EW1 white;
As per the Registry; There are a total of 6 original EW1 A66 Challenger hardtops in the A66 Registry. 1 with a blue interior, 2 black, and one red. (2 unknown color interiors)
4.2% of all JH23 V-8 Challengers (includes 318 and 340 cars) were EW1. If you take 4.2% of 340 Challenger production of 6399; there would be a total of 291 A66 Challengers produced in this color, as a rough estimation.
Another inquiry about how many FK5 A66 Challengers are in the Registry;
Currently, there is a total of 25 FK5 A66 Challengers in the Registry.
17 automatics, 6- 4 speeds, and 1- D13 3sp.
Interestingly, 14 of these A66's have the H6K4 interiors.
9 have the black X9,
1 with white and 1 with the vinyl/cloth H6K4.
This is out of a total of 235 A66 Challengers in the Registry (with and full or partial data).
Again FK5 was 10.1% of ALL JH23 V-8 production and 9.5% of all JH27 V-8 production. Take the total color percentages for what they are worth!
I think it's great that you openly share this info :worship:
It's great that A66 challengers have registry, but are 340 Cuda's not worthy of a list?
I don't know the answer as I'm uninformed. (And living in a Cuda bubble)
Is it just the interest level of the list maker?
Quote from: Mr Cuda on December 26, 2022, 09:27:25 AM
It's great that A66 challengers have registry, but are 340 Cuda's not worthy of a list?
I don't know the answer as I'm uninformed. (And living in a Cuda bubble)
Is it just the interest level of the list maker?
I'm die hard Cuda guy as well, but there's nothing really unique or odd about a 340 Cuda. :dunno: The A66 is odd because it's a high performance engine in a non-RT car, just a basic Challenger, like some sort of after thought. :thinking:
....and ALL it takes is one enthusiast to start a registry. If you feel there would be enough interest, put a side some time to start collecting info....place ads looking for people to donate info, and even one day, build your own website dedicated to 340 Cudas :stayinlane:
It won't be me doing a registry. I work off an android smart phone, thats out of memory.
We know that dodge is higher option typically, so offering a 340 in a base challenger, is probably still better equipped than the average drum brake, standard dash Cuda.
Besides they made almost twice as many challenger's so more interest.
Heck, Cuda people can't see past 440-6 and hemi.
Look how hard cudahunter works on m46 cars, which are unique
A66 Challengers were conceived as a late decision to offer the 340 engine A66 package in a Challenger that was not available formally until early October 1969. There is one A66 Challenger in the A66 Registry that has a late September date. The package was listed in the 70 Dodge salesman's pocket guide dated 9/23/69.
When Dodge realized that the Cuda would get the 340 engine, they did scramble to develop the A66 package.
The A66 Challenger, even though it was based on the "standard" Challenger, all A66's came with the RT equipment sans the big block; heavy duty 11 in brakes, heavy duty suspension, the R/T hood and bumble stripe and scat pack bee decals. It initially also came with required 15" rallye wheels, a collapsible spare and a 26in radiator. The wheel lip moldings were deleted due to the use of the 15" wheels. On October 20th formally, the F70-14 wide oval tires became the standard, the same tire standard on a Challenger RT. The A66 Challenger was basically an RT with the small block 340. I always found it odd that the 340 Cuda had the BS designation while the A66 Challenger came with the JH designation.
Just sharing my own personal thoughts on starting a specific genre Registry; I have been collecting information on A66 340 Challengers for many years before I formalized the information in a data bank. You also need a base to gather the information while building a following of interested enthusiasts. In my case The A66 Group on Facebook.
In organizing the data; it is labor intensive. I use a general spread sheet in documenting option demarcations and create a supplemental file for each entry with information and pictures. The spreadsheet containing options "evolves
with the data collection. Examples of this includes adding option categories such as metal or decal hood callouts or demarcating 2 tone A66 Challengers as just two examples.
As with most Registries; the data is based on code breakdowns from information that is really already out there along with data collected for the Registry.
The more cars you are able to Register for your specific genre allows a more accurate count of the number of cars that are still out there and what are the dominant option choices on those cars.
It is a labor of love and I encourage anyone who has an interest to pursue creation of a Registry for their favorite model. My personal take; I will never monetize the information when requested by enthusiast owners.
My 2 cents worth:
The A66 Challenger is a very cool package. It is unique and worthy of it's own registry because it is so specific, only offering a 340 engine and it's unique trim such as no wheel lip moldings for example. The registry is a great place to find A66 specific information that can't be readily found anywhere else. I own an A66 numbers matching plum crazy Challenger that I have owned since 1986. It's my own barn find since it has been parked in my garage since 1999. Now that I am retired and the kids are out of the house am starting to restore it. The registry is a great place to find info.
Another notable data fact from the A66 Challenger Registry;
It is rare for any V8 Challengers to have come from the factory with a 3 speed manual trans.
A66 Challengers w a 3 speed are even more rare.
In the A66 Registry, we have only 6 total.
4 hardtops and 2 verts.
Total production of 3sp A66 cars were; 343 HT's and only 20 verts.
Quote from: rusty409 on January 05, 2023, 10:30:59 AM
My 2 cents worth:
The A66 Challenger is a very cool package. It is unique and worthy of it's own registry because it is so specific, only offering a 340 engine and it's unique trim such as no wheel lip moldings for example. The registry is a great place to find A66 specific information that can't be readily found anywhere else. I own an A66 numbers matching plum crazy Challenger that I have owned since 1986. It's my own barn find since it has been parked in my garage since 1999. Now that I am retired and the kids are out of the house am starting to restore it. The registry is a great place to find info.
Rusty; glad you kept your A66 since 1986. Your ownership is similar to mine. Bought my A66 vert in 1979 and drove it until 1984 when I then put it into storage. Only took her out of storage 4 years ago to finally work on after my retirement. Looking forward to some pics of your restoration
Phil
Some have seen mine. Some have not. Here is my originally 340 A66 Challenger. Now a 528" Hemi car.
Thank you for sharing the A66 pic
That is a great looking Challenger; it must really fly with that drivetrain
Do you have any data that I can register the car in the Challenger A66 Registry,
That would be great.\
Thanks
Phil
A66 Registry highlight! A rare A66 Challenger from the Registry files in FM3. Was for sale on e bay in September 2021 No other documentation.
Did you ever add this one ?
Quote from: anlauto on March 16, 2023, 04:07:46 PM
Did you ever add this one ?
AllenThanks for posting
I did have a file on this car with some pics
Rare and interesting A66; it was listed for sale on e bay in August of 2021 and sold.
There is another FM3 A66 in the Registry almost identical, but with a white interior and automatic, two serial numbers away from this one. Both have SPD's of 402.
When I went back to check the files, the picture of the FM3 A66 Challenger I posted above is the other car. Your prompt helped me identify the other car. :twothumbsup:
Some other pics of the FM3 A66 relating to the tag;
My buddy was supposed to buy it, but Mark Worman (GYC) scooped it up... :'( I saw it on their show a while ago..
From the A66 Registry archives; an A66 Challenger at a car show in 2017
Congratulations to Rich Gengo with his A66 Challenger convertible making it into Mopar Action :twothumbsup:
Thanks but it's (Gengo) lol🤣
Sorry Rich, corrected
LOL. Not a problem, I was just hoping they didn't misspell it in the magazine. 🤣🤣🤣
Registry Statistics; A66 Verts w AC
Just some A66 Registry Statistics;
In responding to Justin's inquiry regarding A66 Challenger verts with AC in the A66 Registry; I went through the files in our Registry. There are 46 A66 convertibles listed in our Registry with full or partial data recorded. From the 46 verts in the A66 Registry, there are only 9 A66 verts with AC. Justin's car is one of them. Additionally, only 8 A66 verts in Registry came with automatic transmissions and AC. Only 6 A66 Challenger verts in the Registry came with an automatic, a rallye dash and AC.
A66 Statistical Information from the A66 Challenger Registry;
Bryon H. raised the question of how many A66 cars came with the Rallye Dash option. Specific to our A66 Registry; out of a total of 227 A66 cars in the A66 Registry with full or partial information, 63 A66 cars have the Rallye dash. Not included in the count are 3 A66 Challengers where owners added the Rallye dash. That translates into 27.7% of A66 Challengers in our Registry have the Rallye dash option
A66 Challenger bill of sale in Alabama in 1975 for $595.00
Posted on A66 FB site by a member
JH23 HOB 176023
Car sold very cheap for a 5 year old Challenger at the time.
Any one own or know of this car?
It just occurred to me, when I got the Mr Norms sales paperwork for my Challenger T/A, it showed that when the car was purchased new in February of 1971, the buyer traded in an H code '70 Challenger towards his purchase. I'll have to remember when I get home and dig out the sales envelope and post the VIN of that trade in.
I just pulled out the paperwork folder and here is the info on the A66 Challenger traded in on my T/A in February of 1971 by Patrick Willford of Rolling Meadows Illinois.
It was orange though which orange wasn't specified.
It's VIN was JH23H0B268210
They marked down it had an automatic and a radio, no other details.
I wonder if JH23H0B268210 still exists by any chance?
Thank you for sharing the A66 data. The serial number was not in the Registry and I added it with the related information that you had.
Greatly appreciated in your data adding to our Registry information.
Based on the serial number, it looks to have been scheduled to be built in late February or early March 1970.
Again, would love to know if the car still exists!
Thanks again
Phil
It's interesting that the owner bought a 340 Challenger most likely in spring of 1970 around the time that T/As were being introduced, then less than a year later bought a leftover T/A in early 1971.
Maybe he'd had buyers remorse after getting the A66 and finally months later decided he'd get a T/A after all?
I tracked down an address for who I believe the Patrick Willford who owned these cars, still in the area, but he never responded to my attempts to contact him.
I would say that it isn't all tgat unusual.
My 71 cuda, of which I'm the 3rd owner, was bought by my buddy in 72, with 8000 miles on it.
The original owner sold it to buy the hemi cuda he missed.
A66 Challenger for sale in Switzerland; Tx9, 4 speed. Very clean. Car is in A66 Challenger Registry. Some day 2 options added Looking for 93,500 Swiss Franks (about $108,380 US with todays exchange rate
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...NFbWacssnU_wWVPeq3ysEEzYeX7qKSMe8fWHHAbBlAR6M
Something from the A66 Registry archives; Beautiful and rare A66 Challenger convertible w some day 2 wheels;
Picture from the A66 Registry Archives; nice A66 convertible at a car meet in a rare color;
Quote from: JH27N0B on June 29, 2023, 10:05:42 AMIt just occurred to me, when I got the Mr Norms sales paperwork for my Challenger T/A, it showed that when the car was purchased new in February of 1971, the buyer traded in an H code '70 Challenger towards his purchase. I'll have to remember when I get home and dig out the sales envelope and post the VIN of that trade in.
I just pulled out the paperwork folder and here is the info on the A66 Challenger traded in on my T/A in February of 1971 by Patrick Willford of Rolling Meadows Illinois.
It was orange though which orange wasn't specified.
It's VIN was JH23H0B268210
They marked down it had an automatic and a radio, no other details.
I wonder if JH23H0B268210 still exists by any chance?
Sorry for my late answer, haven't been here for quite a while. Are you sure that you read the VIN right? I have 0B268310 as an EF8 JH23G, see attached FT, downloaded in 2017.(https://i.ibb.co/0FRBvBQ/FT-JH23-G-EF8-V1-X-0-B268210.jpg)
From the A66 Registry Archives; a partial build sheet from a FC7 4 speed A66. Was added to the archive in March 2020 with no other information. Hopefully the car still exists!
A guy on the East Coast of Canada was trying to sell me this one, sorry no fender tag pic, but it's an A66 auto car
Quote from: anlauto on December 03, 2023, 02:19:28 PMA guy on the East Coast of Canada was trying to sell me this one, sorry no fender tag pic, but it's an A66 auto car
Thanks for posting; looks to be a nice A66 with FC7, an automatic, 15" rallye's, hood pins, factory bumper guards, sill moldings, dual chrome mirrors and tinted windows. It is listed for sale publicly?
Quote from: 340challconvert on December 03, 2023, 02:48:56 PMQuote from: anlauto on December 03, 2023, 02:19:28 PMA guy on the East Coast of Canada was trying to sell me this one, sorry no fender tag pic, but it's an A66 auto car
Thanks for posting; looks to be a nice A66 with FC7, an automatic, 15" rallye's, hood pins, factory bumper guards, sill moldings, dual chrome mirrors and tinted windows. It is listed for sale publicly?
Also factory power windows, and air conditioning...a boat load of factory documentation. I don't think it's advertised, he wanted to trade me, valued at $65K CDN...this is the guy owns this dealership https://www.campbellsauto.com/
A66 Convertible Sold on Ebay this week. $25K
Body work done nicely.
No drivetrain and only partial serial number. Hard to place in the A66 Challenger Registry. Nice looking roller body! JH27H0B21XXXX
Hey did you get my replies to the message you sent me about my old A66 fender tag ?
I sent you two or three replies and never heard back from you.
JS27
Thank you to Todd who added an unknown A66 Challenger to the Registry. The car was converted to a 440-6 w a shaker hood and 4 speed and was sold by a dealer in Florida for $68K in 2022. Early production car A27; nicely optioned. Was one of only 178 made. I always wonder how many A66 Challengers were converted to big blocks.
From the A66 Registry Archives; Convertible 4sp sold at Mecum in 2012 for $74,250k. Car appears to be DY3 with tan leather interior. Factory AC, power top, rallye dash, console, dual chrome mirrors, drum brakes, collapse spare, 5 spoke wheels. Data from pictures only. Anyone know about this beautiful A66? Car is a cloned 318 car cloned to perfection!
That's a nice one. No way would I order that car but I have to admit it's a knockout.
Searching for her lost A66 Challenger :wave:
Charlene Billie former owner
"Would like help in locating my college graduation gift....a 1970 Dodge Challenger, 8 Cyl., manual 340 4 BBL. VIN JH23H0B232825 Owned it for 7-8 years. Purchased in Erie, PA, sold independently to a buyer when I lived in Hatboro, PA."
Any information appreciated on this A66 Challenger!
Rare A66 Challenger 4 sp convertible For Sale on FB
New entry for the A66 Registry. Interesting A66; came w a four speed and 3:91 gears w power brakes from the factory.
Rare A66 convertible w the 4 speed; one of 66 made.
Nice with the R22 radio and power top! Looks to also have the 15"rallye wheels.
Car is listed for sale for $25K. Owner says solid frame, floors and trunk, and needs patches on lower panels
A66 Challenger hardtop, automatic with power brakes, rallye dash and factory AC and rallye wheels in a great color FK5 with an H6k4 interior. Up for auction on Hemming Motor News Auction Site. Looking forward to see what she sells for?
Looks to be in GREAT condition!
Hemmings website; https://www.hemmings.com/classified...Ohr2BLwKfmnirZwn3XcARq_UyCvh30ZKql6zeeQxkv2il
Scam Alert
There is an A66 Challenger 4 speed listed for sale on the Milwaukee Craigslist page. FJ5 with yellow bumble stripe. It is a SCAM Ad so Buyer Beware on this one!
The real owner is registered on the A66 Challenger Web site on FB. The car is for sale by Johnny Davis in Indianapolis. Not in Milwaukee!
https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/d/milwaukee-dodge-challenger/7734362257.html
Have you got this A66 convertible JH27H0B363589 in your files yet?
Interesting car with lots of options like PW and AC. Too bad about the front end damage.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/285815249597?
Quote from: JS23U on November 22, 2023, 05:25:18 AMQuote from: JH27N0B on June 29, 2023, 10:05:42 AMIt just occurred to me, when I got the Mr Norms sales paperwork for my Challenger T/A, it showed that when the car was purchased new in February of 1971, the buyer traded in an H code '70 Challenger towards his purchase. I'll have to remember when I get home and dig out the sales envelope and post the VIN of that trade in.
I just pulled out the paperwork folder and here is the info on the A66 Challenger traded in on my T/A in February of 1971 by Patrick Willford of Rolling Meadows Illinois.
It was orange though which orange wasn't specified.
It's VIN was JH23H0B268210
They marked down it had an automatic and a radio, no other details.
I wonder if JH23H0B268210 still exists by any chance?
Sorry for my late answer, haven't been here for quite a while. Are you sure that you read the VIN right? I have 0B268310 as an EF8 JH23G, see attached FT, downloaded in 2017.(https://i.ibb.co/0FRBvBQ/FT-JH23-G-EF8-V1-X-0-B268210.jpg)
I did misread my Norms sales paperwork. The traded in car was JH23H0B268218. And the notes said it was orange automatic.