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Title: Convertible glass
Post by: Rich G. on November 09, 2017, 09:37:25 AM
Is the quarter window glass and frame the same on all E Bodies or are the hardtops and convertibles different?
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: Cuda Cody on November 09, 2017, 09:38:04 AM
I think it is the same?   :notsure: 
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: 6bblgt on November 09, 2017, 09:53:25 AM
they are NOT the same:
convertible quarter glass is the same between Barracuda & Challenger

hardtop quarter glass is specific to either Barracuda or Challenger
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: anlauto on November 09, 2017, 11:13:13 AM
The door glass and 1/4 window glass on a CONVERTIBLE is the same for both Cuda and Challenger.

The door glass and 1/4 window glass from a HARDTOP is completely different from a CONVERTIBLE.

The door glass from a HARDTOP is the same for both Cuda and Challenger HARDTOP

The 1/4 window glass for a HARDTOP is different for Cuda HARDTOP or Challenger HARDTOP or E Body CONVERTIBLE

Clear as mud :crazytalk:
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: Cuda Cody on November 09, 2017, 11:23:12 AM
Thank you for the correction!  I learned something new.   :thankyou:
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: 6bblgt on November 09, 2017, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 09, 2017, 11:13:13 AM
Clear as mud :crazytalk:
put that way, YES!

E-body side glass (not getting into years)

1/4 window - Barracuda hardtop ONLY
1/4 window - Challenger hardtop ONLY
1/4 window  - convertible (Barracuda & Challenger are SAME)
door - hardtop (Barracuda & Challenger are SAME)
door - convertible (Barracuda & Challenger are SAME)
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: anlauto on November 09, 2017, 12:33:07 PM
Tomato ---- Toemahtoe   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :drinkingbud:
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on November 09, 2017, 02:49:50 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 09, 2017, 12:33:07 PM
Tomato ---- Toemahtoe   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :drinkingbud:

Tequila...
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: Rich G. on November 09, 2017, 06:33:34 PM
Thank for clearing that up.....I think.  LOL
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: Cuda_mark on November 19, 2017, 02:32:56 PM
I have a full set of driver quality clear very glass if anyone is interestedly.
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: Bpret on November 19, 2017, 04:30:13 PM
Hardtop or convertible. Selling as a set only?
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: Topcat on November 19, 2017, 07:31:53 PM
Quote from: Cuda_mark on November 19, 2017, 02:32:56 PM
I have a full set of driver quality clear very glass if anyone is interestedly.

Put a picture of the date code and you will get more interest.

What are they out of?

interestedly...that's a new word I haven't  heard out here in the West.

Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: Cuda_mark on November 20, 2017, 05:29:53 AM
Quote from: Topcat on November 19, 2017, 07:31:53 PM
Quote from: Cuda_mark on November 19, 2017, 02:32:56 PM
I have a full set of driver quality clear very glass if anyone is interestedly.

Put a picture of the date code and you will get more interest.

What are they out of?

interestedly...that's a new word I haven't  heard out here in the West.

Haha...it's a word I made up to attract more interest-edly.  Truth is, I just finished off a Treehouse IPA so that might have had something to do with it.

Anyway, it's a full matched set of clear convertible glass. I bought it a few years ago off of Ken Mosier at Carlisle. If there is interest, I will take some pictures of the date codes.
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: CudaJack on February 15, 2020, 04:54:33 AM
Hi, do you still have the 'cuda convertible glass? I would need the driver's door piece. Mine was badly scratched in a wide swath from a previous owner having wound it up and down with the glass partially off the lift-channel. With great effort and care I was able to sand and polish it back to a decent level of optical clarity but now it looks like there is a slightly blurry stripe. I may be able to improve that with some special glass polishing paste. Prior to that I had tried an AMD repop but it was pure junk - the curvatures were all wrong in a couple of axes, and the top edge-profile was wavy and undulating like it had been hand ground without a jig/template - like up to 1/8" dips and highs all along. This glass looked terrible and would not get even close to sealing against the weatherstrip at any point. The Chrysler logo and date code etching looks awful too. Regards, Jack
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: cudaize on February 15, 2020, 07:11:34 AM
Quote from: CudaJack on February 15, 2020, 04:54:33 AM
I had tried an AMD repop but it was pure junk - the curvatures were all wrong , Jack

I would look into ECS glass.  I have an ECS windshield and ECS quarter windows in my 71 Cuda convertible.  I had all my original glass and they matched my logos exact.  I even took measurements of where they were and the angle of placement on the quarter windows and they duplicated. 

The curvature of the quarters was almost exact.  The only comment I can say is that the original would slip into the front stainless frame with equal, say 1/16" spacing front and back, where the repro was slightly off in the center.  Maybe for an 1-1/2" or less length in the center the spacing was say 1/32 on one side and 3/32 on the other.  To me this was acceptable.  The window fits well in the car and looks clear.  When ordering I would tell them of your experience with bad curvatures.  I believe they have templates to check this.  My understanding is that they are buying glass which has the minimal government required stamps in a place that won't show when installed and they put their etching on it.  I think they have vetted a couple suppliers to get the best currently available.
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: CudaJack on February 16, 2020, 02:17:35 PM
Hi and thank you for your recommendation. In fact, I had checked with ECS last spring after my AMD fiasco. The guy I spoke with at ECS was very knowledgeable on this topic. He said there had been consistent problems with recent production runs of door glass from several different vendors. He said the curvatures on the E-body convertible glass is particularly complicated. He cited the 'Cuda convertible driver's-side door as particularly problematic for the repop manufactures to get right. At that time he told me that he could not recommend any aftermarket glass for my driver's door, but he had some hope that things might improve eventually. So, at that point I decided to simply polish my OEM glass as best I could. Auto glass places simply refused to touch it - they said the scratches were too deep and that the glass was sure to shatter. I read up on this and found that heat is the big issue.  So, I kept it wet as I worked on it. I sanded by hand in successively finer grits to heal the scratches. When it came time for finer polishing, I used my die grinder at low RPM with various polishing compounds on cloth mandrels. I stopped regularly to check the glass temperature with my IR thermometer and kept things cool with a spray bottle of water. The glass temp never rose more than 10° above ambient. The whole process was a lot of effort. It came out pretty well though - a bit of blurriness now where it was previously badly scarred, but miles ahead of the ugliness I started with. (Before and after pictures are below).  I think I would have gotten it close to perfect had I had the correct polishing media for glass/sapphire for my final polish, but I was in a rush to reassemble my car. I could probably go at it again now even with the glass on the door by masking things off, but it would still be messy and I might get my new door fuzzy dirty. I think I'll check with ECS again and see if they're back into a run of some good glass. Thanks again for your advice. Regards, Jack
Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: Cuda_mark on February 16, 2020, 02:45:26 PM
I do still have that complete set. Clear, vert, driver quality. It's in storage but I'll post some pics of etchings and date stamps along with some pics that would give you an idea of overall condition. I'll get them up here in the next few weeks.


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Title: Re: Convertible glass
Post by: CudaJack on February 16, 2020, 04:43:31 PM
Hi and thanks. Driver quality is just fine. J.