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Title: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: atdoray on January 08, 2021, 03:18:30 PM
I have 3 1970 challenger fenders and trying to come up with a price. One is 3579625(listed as T/A) The other are a pair 3579380 and 3579381(listed as hemi 15"). All 3 are nos with no rust and original stickers or part number stamp. Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: R/T's 4 R/P on January 08, 2021, 04:34:24 PM
As 15" fenders really weren't different from an NOS perspective (i know early Oem versions had some lip rolling), they are the same.
NOS fenders would have the 72 style top plates.
I'd think $1500 ish each? Just a guess based on what I've seen other NOS items going for.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: anlauto on January 08, 2021, 05:00:51 PM
Yea...I agree...$1000-$1500 range each :alan2cents:
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: cuda hunter on January 08, 2021, 06:07:26 PM
@atdoray (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/atdoray_5577)

Are the inner wheel well's rolled?  Interested. 
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: challengermaniac on January 12, 2021, 06:22:39 PM
I'm thinking the NOS T/A fender is worth more than what you all are giving it credit for.  I would bet I could offer $5k for info leading to purchasing one and won't hear back from anyone!   
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: anlauto on January 12, 2021, 07:21:15 PM
You could be right, but I think the days of $5K fenders are long gone with the introduction of the reproduction fenders :alan2cents: just my opinion.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: 71vert340 on January 12, 2021, 09:28:42 PM
So Alan and others who have used the repro fenders, I asked this question a few years ago and I'm wondering if things have changed. Are the reproduction front fenders now as good as the original fenders? I have a couple of the 70-71 front fenders without the notch. I've considered selling them and buying new repro ones. I was told back then to keep the original fenders because they are still better. Has that changed?
Terry W.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: RUNCHARGER on January 13, 2021, 07:22:00 AM
Originals are better for sure. Fit better and made of better metal, the aftermarket stuff is pretty soft.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: Cuda Cody on January 13, 2021, 08:55:14 AM
If you can find them, the original are better.  The fit is better.  The repops are really pretty good, but a few holes in the wrong spot and they need a little more work to get them to fit right.  But I would always use original metal if I could.  But if I can't find original, repop fenders do a good job for what they are.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: 71vert340 on January 13, 2021, 10:55:29 AM
 Good to know that originals are still best. They're not in my way so I'll keep them. I know at MCACN 2018, several of the 1970 Challengers on display had the fenders with the notch in them and I only saw those fenders back in the 70s as replacement fenders. Again, thanks.
Terry W.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: Skdmark on January 13, 2021, 11:47:05 AM
Quote from: 71vert340 on January 13, 2021, 10:55:29 AM
Good to know that originals are still best. They're not in my way so I'll keep them. I know at MCACN 2018, several of the 1970 Challengers on display had the fenders with the notch in them and I only saw those fenders back in the 70s as replacement fenders. Again, thanks.
Terry W.

If you are referring to the notch above the headlight bucket, there are at least 2 versions. The '71 production line and over the counter replacement version. My '71 R/T has one of each.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: anlauto on January 13, 2021, 01:08:00 PM
Yea all reproduction fenders will need work, but they also don't cost $5000 each  :dunno:
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: ek3 on January 13, 2021, 03:42:17 PM
what makes the metal better in old fenders ? from what i know , the amd actually has slightly thicker metal... put them on a scale .. as far as fit , the gaps were terrible on  all the factory cars.  now as far as some parts having holes or other things missing or  " incorrect " i agree 100%. but , they all will need work to fit perfect like everyone try's to do today.. most hi end cars have been re-worked to way better than factory built standards. i understand we want to keep as much factory metal in these cars. i agree "some" panels or parts are not very good [form and fit] reproductions and a factory part would be much better here.. to me, knowing it is rust free is the most important thing in the end.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: 71vert340 on January 13, 2021, 07:18:58 PM
Quote from: Skdmark on January 13, 2021, 11:47:05 AM
Quote from: 71vert340 on January 13, 2021, 10:55:29 AM
Good to know that originals are still best. They're not in my way so I'll keep them. I know at MCACN 2018, several of the 1970 Challengers on display had the fenders with the notch in them and I only saw those fenders back in the 70s as replacement fenders. Again, thanks.
Terry W.

If you are referring to the notch above the headlight bucket, there are at least 2 versions. The '71 production line and over the counter replacement version. My '71 R/T has one of each.


@Skdmark (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/skdmark_284), can you show me a photo of each type of notch came in 1971? I would really appreciate it.
Thanks.
Terry W.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: cuda hunter on January 14, 2021, 05:25:18 AM
Here ya go Terry. This should have pics of both notch's. 

https://forum.e-bodies.org/body-shop/5/70-challenger-rt-wrong-fender/8540/
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: Skdmark on January 14, 2021, 07:03:48 AM
@71vert340 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/71vert340_519)
Driver side is production line.
Passenger side is over the counter.

The notch itself is the same. The circled areas are what's different.
Slot, square nut and hood bumper.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: 71vert340 on January 14, 2021, 07:03:59 AM
@Cuda Hunter. Thanks. I thought I'd seen this topic before. I didn't realize it was going on 3 years ago. Back on the original topic question. I'd guess you could get at least double, maybe triple or more what a repro fender would cost. I sold two pairs of fenders that really needed work for several hundred dollars because the buyers didn't want to use repro fenders.  If I were doing a high end restoration on a rare car, I'd pay the high dollars to get your fenders.
Terry W.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: 71vert340 on January 14, 2021, 07:12:52 AM
 Thanks @Skdmark (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/skdmark_284)
Terry W.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: 340challconvert on January 14, 2021, 08:13:49 AM
Fenders for 70-71 Challengers are an interesting topic.

I bought two original NOS fenders in 1980 in anticipating eventually restoring my early 70 A66 Challenger, not knowing about any differences in them.
The pair I bought way back when are 624-625 fenders and have the notch for the 71 model grill and are listed as TA replacement fenders in the later body repair catalogs.

I sold the original driver's side fender over 20 years ago (wish I had not) It needed the proverbial patch at the bottom.
The location of the holes and hood bumper are of course in different locations (NOS replacement vs my original)
I debate with just repairing the bottom of the original right side fender and using it, while modifying the 624 to match better.

Or just use both the 624-625 fenders and not worry about it. I have an A66 Convertible (not super rare, but I always prefer as close to stock as possible)
I am glad I have the option and do not have to resort to the repro's.

I think I postured on this in an older post!
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: 340challconvert on January 14, 2021, 08:19:19 AM
Fender Chart

Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: Cuda_mark on January 14, 2021, 08:33:17 AM
What about cars with radio delete that had 14" wheels? Did the factory ever make no rolled lip fenders without the antenna hole punched in it?
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: 340challconvert on January 14, 2021, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: Cuda_mark on January 14, 2021, 08:33:17 AM
What about cars with radio delete that had 14" wheels? Did the factory ever make no rolled lip fenders without the antenna hole punched in it?
Not sure, but I think there was a dummy chrome plate that went into the unused antenna hole?  My NOS rt side fender has no antenna hole.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: Cuda_mark on January 14, 2021, 11:16:07 AM
Quote from: 340challconvert on January 14, 2021, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: Cuda_mark on January 14, 2021, 08:33:17 AM
What about cars with radio delete that had 14" wheels? Did the factory ever make no rolled lip fenders without the antenna hole punched in it?
Not sure, but I think there was a dummy chrome plate that went into the unused antenna hole?  My NOS rt side fender has no antenna hole.

Did NOS fenders not come with antenna holes then? Reason I am asking is I bought an NOS fender a handful of years back and it didn't have an antenna hole.
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: 340challconvert on January 14, 2021, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: Cuda_mark on January 14, 2021, 11:16:07 AM
Quote from: 340challconvert on January 14, 2021, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: Cuda_mark on January 14, 2021, 08:33:17 AM
What about cars with radio delete that had 14" wheels? Did the factory ever make no rolled lip fenders without the antenna hole punched in it?
Not sure, but I think there was a dummy chrome plate that went into the unused antenna hole?  My NOS rt side fender has no antenna hole.

Did NOS fenders not come with antenna holes then? Reason I am asking is I bought an NOS fender a handful of years
back and it didn't have an antenna hole.
Looks like NOS fenders had no hole for the antenna! :thinking:
Title: Re: 1970 challenger NOS fenders
Post by: Cuda_mark on January 15, 2021, 05:19:49 AM
Quote from: 340challconvert on January 14, 2021, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: Cuda_mark on January 14, 2021, 11:16:07 AM
Quote from: 340challconvert on January 14, 2021, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: Cuda_mark on January 14, 2021, 08:33:17 AM
What about cars with radio delete that had 14" wheels? Did the factory ever make no rolled lip fenders without the antenna hole punched in it?
Not sure, but I think there was a dummy chrome plate that went into the unused antenna hole?  My NOS rt side fender has no antenna hole.

Did NOS fenders not come with antenna holes then? Reason I am asking is I bought an NOS fender a handful of years
back and it didn't have an antenna hole.
Looks like NOS fenders had no hole for the antenna! :thinking:

What about repop's from places like AMD or china? Did those typically have antenna holes?