So this is 70 special and is what sets the clock on a rallye dash? How does the knob attach to the end?
It looks like the threads on the end are broken off, nothing for the barrel screws to screw onto. You need a new cable.
You also have the wrong mounting nut. BTW, compare the trip odometer reset to the clock's cable and you'll see how much thread should be there. Sorry, my picture doesn't show the threads too well but it does the nut.
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 18, 2023, 07:53:52 AM
You also have the wrong mounting nut. BTW, compare the trip odometer reset to the clock's cable and you'll see how much thread should be there. Sorry, my picture doesn't show the threads too well but it does the nut.
wonder if Roseville sells the cable? :thinking:
They do, I saw it there when I was looking for a good picture of it. No nut though, if yours work just use that one.
Looks correct to me. The smaller end attaches to the back of the clock. The larger end is inserted into the lower hole in the previous picture shown. The chrome retainer nut is on your cable in reverse, it is the correct one. Insert the larger end through the hole, the nut will be up against the back of the housing and secure it with the chrome nut.
Here's a pretty good photo. Hope it helps. :cheers:
Looking at it again it seems that the threads for the retainer screw that holds on the chrome reset knob are broken off
Yuuuup.
I'm also convinced Spikedog08's nut (don't go there) is wrong for the reset cable too. IMO it should just be a plain 6-sided one. Check out the OER application list, E body rallye clock cable isn't there.
https://www.moparts.ca/oer-1960-73-mopar-a-b-e-body-switch-retainer-nut-various
EDIT: Okay, I guess I could be wrong about the attaching nut.
https://moparplus.com/242-nut-mopar-1970-71-e-body-rallye-dash-gauge-clock-cable-nut/
Thanks for all helpful comments . . from the pictures, there are no threads on the end of my cable so I am assuming I need a new one? Working on this project today! :bigthumb:
No threads on the end, you definitely need a new cable.
I wonder if the broken threads are inside the barrel screw. You might need a new one. Unfortunately I don't see them on Roseville's site and I've never seen the knobs sold individually or just the barrel screw.
https://vansauto.com/product/70-71-e-body-clock-reset-knob-and-nut/
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 19, 2023, 11:20:31 AM
No threads on the end, you definitely need a new cable.
I wonder if the broken threads are inside the barrel screw. You might need a new one. Unfortunately I don't see them on Roseville's site and I've never seen the knobs sold individually or just the barrel screw.
https://vansauto.com/product/70-71-e-body-clock-reset-knob-and-nut/
So do the knobs just screw on? Always wondered that . .
https://www.musclecarparts.cc/shop/item.aspx/1970-71-e-body-rallye-dash-gauge-clock-cable/8208/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_fH-9O7o_QIVcQNlCh2dugFlEAQYASABEgI-_vD_BwE
The knobs don't screw on, they slide down over the threaded end of the cable (or odometer reset shaft) and bottom out. Then the barrel screw(s) drop down the center of the hollow chrome knob. With an appropriate sized jewelers flat head screwdriver you screw it onto the cable's threads.
Putting these knobs on is always the last thing I do to avoid any damage. Usually once the dash is all in while sitting in the driver's seat. Whatever you do, don't lose those tiny screws or you'll be buying another set. This pic might give a better idea
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 19, 2023, 02:05:09 PM
The knobs don't screw on, they slide down over the threaded end of the cable (or odometer reset shaft) and bottom out. Then the barrel screw(s) drop down the center of the hollow chrome knob. With an appropriate sized jewelers flat head screwdriver you screw it onto the cable's threads.
Putting these knobs on is always the last thing I do to avoid any damage. Usually once the dash is all in while sitting in the driver's seat. Whatever you do, don't lose those tiny screws or you'll be buying another set. This pic might give a better idea
Wow well first I didn't know the tops had an opening! Makes more sense now! Definitely will need a new clock cable . . Looks like another trip to Roseville soon . .
Apparently Roseville does have them but it looks like they're sold individually.
https://www.rosevillemoparts.com/product/70-71-e-body-rally-gauge-reset-knob-screw-kit/
If you need both (clock & trip odometer) Vans was the least expensive at $44.00 for a pair and free shipping within the US.
Ok had some time to visit the garage again . . Some more questions. So first, didn't know the standard dash AC on the left end of the setup was one piece. I thought the vent was removable . . So if I want to keep the vent for future AC install . . I need a rallye dash AC lower dash . . Correct ?
Next is the AC / heater control the same for standard and rallye setup? I have a feeling it is not with the curve on the bezel which would indicate standard setup!
Also . . So I have a very nice rallye dash light bar and wonder what the opening on the end is for?
Lastly . . Here is what I'm working with . . Just a shot of the setup! :D
The AC/heater control is different for a rallye dash, no curved corner. And , if I recall, the two lower dash pieces meet under the steering column. So the radio bezel is different also.
The opening on the end of the light bar is for the optional A01 light group flood lamp :alan2cents:
Quote from: blown motor on March 30, 2023, 05:50:36 AM
So the radio bezel is different also.
The radio bezels are the same. I used the original from my standard dash.
A picture is worth a thousand words - Switch Title Lamp.
Hey SpikeDog80, your dashpad doesn't have vents so why would you want your heater panel to have one? Just asking. Are you thinking you might change the pad in the future too?
https://www.rosevillemoparts.com/product/70-74-e-body-ralley-heater-ac-control-panel/
https://www.rosevillemoparts.com/product/70-74-e-body-ralley-heater-control-panel/
EDIT: If you go with the non-AC one you'll need the sliders/levers. I'm not 100% sure if the switch is transferable from you AC block to the non-AC bezel. Ebay has some standard dash panels with the parts that will switch over.
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 30, 2023, 06:51:05 AM
Quote from: blown motor on March 30, 2023, 05:50:36 AM
So the radio bezel is different also.
The radio bezels are the same. I used the original from my standard dash.
I stand corrected.
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 30, 2023, 06:58:04 AM
Hey SpikeDog80, your dashpad doesn't have vents so why would you want your heater panel to have one? Just asking. Are you thinking you might change the pad in the future too?
https://www.rosevillemoparts.com/product/70-74-e-body-ralley-heater-ac-control-panel/
https://www.rosevillemoparts.com/product/70-74-e-body-ralley-heater-control-panel/
EDIT: If you go with the non-AC one you'll need the sliders/levers. I'm not 100% sure if the switch is transferable from you AC block to the non-AC bezel. Ebay has some standard dash panels with the parts that will switch over.
The car is a factory A/C car and the wife would really like to have it installed. I have the old pad but the Florida sun cooked it pretty bad. On a positive note, the vent are in pretty good shape. I am considering installing A/C but probably not this year. Spring is getting close and I just want to get this back together and plan the A/C install for another winter. Once this is back together, I need to focus on the hardtop that has been in storage since covid started.
I have a very nice rallye non A/C heater control that I can install for now. Just planning . . .
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 30, 2023, 06:51:05 AM
Quote from: blown motor on March 30, 2023, 05:50:36 AM
So the radio bezel is different also.
The radio bezels are the same. I used the original from my standard dash.
A picture is worth a thousand words - Switch Title Lamp.
Picture did help but. . .so this lights the headlight / wiper switch area? Does it have a cover or is the bulb just colored? Will my new harness have a plug for this?
It's a bulb socket with a blue/green cover....No you would need the A01 light group wiring which is not in the main harness :alan2cents:
The Rallye dash A/C heater controller . . What holds it in position? One screw in the front and ??? Something has to hold the rear of the thing . .
Quote from: Spikedog08 on June 26, 2023, 03:07:47 PM
The Rallye dash A/C heater controller . . What holds it in position? One screw in the front and ??? Something has to hold the rear of the thing . .
Attaches same as standard dash.
Screws in the front and one towards the back
Note the script on the repro AC panel is correct for late 71 to 74.
Quote from: Skdmark on June 26, 2023, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: Spikedog08 on June 26, 2023, 03:07:47 PM
The Rallye dash A/C heater controller . . What holds it in position? One screw in the front and ??? Something has to hold the rear of the thing . .
Attaches same as standard dash.
Screws in the front and one towards the back
Note the script on the repro AC panel is correct for late 71 to 74.
Ok so I have crawled under the dash and looked and looked and I see no where possible that the rear of the Rallye dash heater control can attach to? Am I missing a small bracket or something? Appreciate all help as usual ..
Any update on this endeavor.
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 04, 2023, 08:06:50 AM
Any update on this endeavor.
This is a sad topic for me . I did not get the convertible out this year as still sitting on jack stands in the garage. I did get to drive the hardtop some but not running that great either. Likes to stall when pushing in the clutch . . Almost glad we are headed into winter so I can tackle some of the issues. Plus I plan to totally rebuild a pontoon boat over the winter . . Gonna be busy!
:veryexcited: :tired: