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Title: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on October 29, 2018, 05:23:39 AM
Can anyone confirm the listing wire installation for the bucket seats?  I currently have the standard '71 Cuda front seat covers.  I also have two short wires (10") and four longer wires (19").  I am not sure of the number of wires or the lengths that I should have.  I am also not sure of the installation procedure that should be followed so any help would be appreciated . . .  :clueless:
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: HEMICUDA on October 29, 2018, 05:29:59 AM
Wad up all you seats and covers, I'll do them for you and it will only cost you a set of horns.  :D
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on October 29, 2018, 06:58:44 AM
@HEMICUDA (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/hemicuda_27) funny guy!  I actually like doing things myself . . . at least the things that I can!  I have already completed my back seats which weren't too bad to do.  I just need to understand how the listing wires should be installed on the front seats.  My horns work great and I would hate to part with them now as we have a history together!  :rofl: Plus they are already installed and look great!  :haha:
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on October 29, 2018, 09:10:10 AM
My guess would be that one listing wire will get installed into the loop sewn on the underside of the seat cover (black batting circled below in red) and then push that wire and seat cover down through the slit opening in my seat foam (picture attached) and then hog ring the wire in the seat cover to the wire that is in the bottom of my seat foam???  Can anyone confirm if this is correct?  :dunno:
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on October 30, 2018, 04:47:37 AM
Bueller . . .
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 06:43:23 AM
I'm not sure what's hard to figure out ? the short is obvious for the bottom and the long for the top  :dunno:
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on October 30, 2018, 07:09:55 AM
@anlauto (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/anlauto_19) I don't think that it is hard to figure out, however we are not all as well versed as yourself.  Even my less than stellar self can conclude that the short is obviously for the bottom and the long for the top . . . I am simply trying to figure out the correct installation procedure.
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: HEMICUDA on October 30, 2018, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 06:43:23 AM
I'm not sure what's hard to figure out ? the short is obvious for the bottom and the long for the top  :dunno:

Surly with all the cars "you've" restored and your wealth of talent and expertise, you can easily identify anything on an ebody seat?  Wait a minute, I forgot, you don't do interiors either, my bad.  Yea, I'm sorry, that was a dig.
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 09:02:12 AM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on October 30, 2018, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 06:43:23 AM
I'm not sure what's hard to figure out ? the short is obvious for the bottom and the long for the top  :dunno:

Surly with all the cars "you've" restored and your wealth of talent and expertise, you can easily identify anything on an ebody seat?  Wait a minute, I forgot, you don't do interiors either, my bad.  Yea, I'm sorry, that was a dig.

HEMICUDA You're the best !   Your Mommy & Daddy must be so proud !  You should start your own thread telling us how GREAT your are  :worship:
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: HEMICUDA on October 30, 2018, 09:30:25 AM
Quote from: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 09:02:12 AM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on October 30, 2018, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 06:43:23 AM
I'm not sure what's hard to figure out ? the short is obvious for the bottom and the long for the top  :dunno:

Surly with all the cars "you've" restored and your wealth of talent and expertise, you can easily identify anything on an ebody seat?  Wait a minute, I forgot, you don't do interiors either, my bad.  Yea, I'm sorry, that was a dig.

HEMICUDA You're the best !   Your Mommy & Daddy must be so proud !  You should start your own thread telling us how GREAT your are  :worship:

Do we have to have the same conversation at the next car show I see you at about your cyber balls?  It was amazing how small they got with me in front of you the last time.  If having the talent and facilities to do all our own body/paint, interiors, drive lines and the "real" ability to do OE style work offends you, to bad.  Lets cut to the chase, yes, you are the rattle can master and don't do not much aside of being a really great project manager and assembler.  Do not compare yourself to "real" restoration shops, you're not even remotely close in your wife's 2 car garage.
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on October 30, 2018, 09:30:25 AM
Quote from: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 09:02:12 AM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on October 30, 2018, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 06:43:23 AM
I'm not sure what's hard to figure out ? the short is obvious for the bottom and the long for the top  :dunno:

Surly with all the cars "you've" restored and your wealth of talent and expertise, you can easily identify anything on an ebody seat?  Wait a minute, I forgot, you don't do interiors either, my bad.  Yea, I'm sorry, that was a dig.

HEMICUDA You're the best !   Your Mommy & Daddy must be so proud !  You should start your own thread telling us how GREAT your are  :worship:

Do we have to have the same conversation at the next car show I see you at about your cyber balls?  It was amazing how small they got with me in front of you the last time.  If having the talent and facilities to do all our own body/paint, interiors, drive lines and the "real" ability to do OE style work offends you, to bad.  Lets cut to the chase, yes, you are the rattle can master and don't do not much aside of being a really great project manager and assembler.  Do not compare yourself to "real" restoration shops, you're not even remotely close in your wife's 2 car garage.

That's a nice start, but you really need to put together your own thread ...You're GREAT ! :perfect10:
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on October 31, 2018, 05:57:12 AM
Thus far, I have only been able to find a couple of pictures from a '73 Challenger seat cover installation.  Obviously the foam and covers are different, however it appeared that the listing wires were installed in the seat covers and then those listing wires were hog ringed to the listing wires that were molded into the seat foam.  I am still looking for confirmation from someone here whom has installed these '71 Cuda specific seat covers . . .  :clueless:
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: larry4406 on October 31, 2018, 01:00:39 PM
Not much help here.

Several years back on either Moparts or CC, there was a thread on a 71 Sassy Grass Green cuda the owner was restoring.  He converted standard buckets into leather ones.  From memory he had some detailed pictures on the upholstery process and seat foam differences.  I think his screen name was something "Joe's".  Ultimately I recall he sold the car and that was the end of thread.  I have spent some time just now searching my hard disk and the net to no avail.
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: HEMICUDA on November 01, 2018, 08:15:16 AM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on October 29, 2018, 05:29:59 AM
Wad up all you seats and covers, I'll do them for you and it will only cost you a set of horns.  :D

This comment was a joke between us because no one on here, especially any knuckle head up north that think he's know everything, knows our history when you where here.  Since your wife was so nice, I would love to share our talents with you and show you how to recover those seats for you no charge.  You have my number, just call me.
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on November 01, 2018, 08:28:54 AM
Mike,

Yes, I know and appreciate the offer.
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: plymouthGC340 on November 03, 2018, 06:51:50 PM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on October 30, 2018, 09:30:25 AM
Quote from: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 09:02:12 AM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on October 30, 2018, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 06:43:23 AM
I'm not sure what's hard to figure out ? the short is obvious for the bottom and the long for the top  :dunno:

Surly with all the cars "you've" restored and your wealth of talent and expertise, you can easily identify anything on an ebody seat?  Wait a minute, I forgot, you don't do interiors either, my bad.  Yea, I'm sorry, that was a dig.

HEMICUDA You're the best !   Your Mommy & Daddy must be so proud !  You should start your own thread telling us how GREAT your are  :worship:

Do we have to have the same conversation at the next car show I see you at about your cyber balls?  It was amazing how small they got with me in front of you the last time.  If having the talent and facilities to do all our own body/paint, interiors, drive lines and the "real" ability to do OE style work offends you, to bad.  Lets cut to the chase, yes, you are the rattle can master and don't do not much aside of being a really great project manager and assembler.  Do not compare yourself to "real" restoration shops, you're not even remotely close in your wife's 2 car garage.

Claudia, pardon me, this is way off your topic but i find the above very entertaining and spot on... Go, Mike,Go! 
Cyber balls, rattle can master... :haha: :rofl:
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: HP_Cuda on November 04, 2018, 10:31:59 AM

I just got my seats back after having to wait an eternity.

But what I remember from pulling them apart is the listing wire is hog ringed to the frame. So once you put the foam on the frame you will have to pull it up on one side, hog ring it and then do the top, and then do the same for the other side. Then you will have to pull the cover over the top and the sides to finish hog ringing it to the back of the frame.

This is from memory so it may not have caught everything.
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: bpsmopar on November 04, 2018, 01:10:25 PM
Quote from: plymouthGC340 on November 03, 2018, 06:51:50 PM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on October 30, 2018, 09:30:25 AM
Quote from: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 09:02:12 AM
Quote from: HEMICUDA on October 30, 2018, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: anlauto on October 30, 2018, 06:43:23 AM
I'm not sure what's hard to figure out ? the short is obvious for the bottom and the long for the top  :dunno:

Surly with all the cars "you've" restored and your wealth of talent and expertise, you can easily identify anything on an ebody seat?  Wait a minute, I forgot, you don't do interiors either, my bad.  Yea, I'm sorry, that was a dig.

HEMICUDA You're the best !   Your Mommy & Daddy must be so proud !  You should start your own thread telling us how GREAT your are  :worship:

Do we have to have the same conversation at the next car show I see you at about your cyber balls?  It was amazing how small they got with me in front of you the last time.  If having the talent and facilities to do all our own body/paint, interiors, drive lines and the "real" ability to do OE style work offends you, to bad.  Lets cut to the chase, yes, you are the rattle can master and don't do not much aside of being a really great project manager and assembler.  Do not compare yourself to "real" restoration shops, you're not even remotely close in your wife's 2 car garage.

Claudia, pardon me, this is way off your topic but i find the above very entertaining and spot on... Go, Mike,Go! 
Cyber balls, rattle can master... :haha: :rofl:

Seriously? Hurling insults and self inflating egos serves what purpose to the followers.
PM if you must Sabre rattle and save us the childish rants.
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Brads70 on November 04, 2018, 02:41:25 PM
I feel the worst for Cody, hope the ego's don't force him to have to deal with this. Not fun for anyone.
Let it go boys , life is to short your both talented and respected in the Mopar community, no place, time or need for this. It's embarrassing ! 
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on November 05, 2018, 04:48:34 AM
@HP_Cuda (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/hpcuda_20) so the listing wire that is inserted into the seat cover does not get hog ringed to the listing wire that is molded into the seat foam?
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: HP_Cuda on November 05, 2018, 12:05:39 PM

From my experience, each listing wire (where-ever placed) is used to hog ring the cover to the frame. This is what makes the cover taught and is used to take the wrinkles out.

So for example, if you had a listing wire that is molded into the seat foam - you would use that listing wire to attach to the frame. So the bottoms would be attached to the bottom frame and so on...



Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on November 05, 2018, 12:11:43 PM
Yep . . . my new foams all have listing wires molded into them so I am planning to hog ring the listing wires in the seat covers to the listing wires that are molded into the seat foams and then hog ring the listing wires that are molded into the seat foams to the seat frames.  I will see how they turn out . . .  :fingerscrossed:
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: HP_Cuda on November 05, 2018, 12:14:02 PM

I think you are on the right track now. Take is slow and make sure you are happy with the cover as you go.

It's a pain to go back and unhog-ring an area once it's done.
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on November 05, 2018, 12:16:57 PM
Yeah, I did my rear seat first and it turned out pretty good for my first time doing a seat cover (maybe another day or two in the sun yet) so I think I'm going to tackle the fronts and see what happens!
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: anlauto on November 05, 2018, 12:24:16 PM
Quote from: Claudia on November 05, 2018, 12:16:57 PM
Yeah, I did my rear seat first and it turned out pretty good for my first time doing a seat cover (maybe another day or two in the sun yet) so I think I'm going to tackle the fronts and see what happens!

Did you have custom seat covers made ?
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on November 05, 2018, 01:24:05 PM
@anlauto (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/anlauto_19) I did not . . . why do you ask . . . I assume because they do not have the button?
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: anlauto on November 05, 2018, 01:36:08 PM
Maybe it's just the lighting in your picture. They look quite a bit different from the Legendary covers I'm used to seeing. Who manufacture those ?

The Legendary Ones have a separate piece of material sewn on top to create the "band" down the center.
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on November 05, 2018, 01:39:40 PM
@anlauto (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/anlauto_19) I believe PUI Interiors . . . from the tag in the picture below.
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on November 05, 2018, 01:41:38 PM
Here are a couple of other pictures of the rear covers . . .
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: anlauto on November 05, 2018, 01:42:54 PM
Ahhh...That makes sense...Here's some close ups of what I was talking about. My shop just did these 71 Cuda seats.
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: anlauto on November 05, 2018, 01:45:05 PM
Nice job on the install :twothumbsup:

You can see quite a bit of difference in the two brands, that's why I was asking if it was a custom made cover. :)
Title: Re: '71 Cuda Bucket Seats
Post by: Claudia on November 05, 2018, 01:45:17 PM
Yeah, mine are not done in the same fashion as the ones that you have pictured.  I have heard nothing but great things about Legendary covers being extremely nice.  Seems to me like it may be easier to snag something on the covers that have the separate piece of material sewn on top of the cover for the band . . . maybe why the change . . . I have no idea.  :dunno:  Ideally, I would never have anything in my back pocket when getting in and out of my car . . . of course, ideally I would never be riding in the back seat either!  :driving: