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So while I was at Carlisle this year, I saw that Tonys Parts was offering repop center consoles for $260.

I was interetsed, since my console is actually a pieced together affair from a few different consoles I got when I was first putting the car together 10 years ago.....and recently I broke a section of that skinny part on the drivers side next to the gear shift....

Well, I went back to my tent to consider and ended up googling it....

Found that Classic had one that could be shipped to my home for just around $230. Mopar licensed etc.

GREAT! I love saving money.

It came the other day....and there is a depression or "divot" in the plastic...pretty deep, if not huge as far as size....my eye goes right to it.......my original pieces dont have it so I know its not "supposed" the be there.

I contacted Classic via email and am waiting to see what they are gonna do....

Anyone run into this with the repops?

That's one of the reasons I love buying in person as shows like Carlisle so I can put my eyes on it first and know what I'm buying.

I'm sure they will take care of it, but it's time and a hassle.

That looks like the screw from the underside was over tightened @TONY (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/tony_147) what do you think ?   

I'm you can return it to Classic ?

Quote from: Burdar on July 24, 2019, 12:22:10 PM
Check the fitment of your top plate at the back.  That can be an issue as well.

Just like many originals do,
but its even worse with a reproduction top plate

im sorry about any flaws in the consoles, if it was bought from me i can take care of it, but if not then youll have to go to your point of purchase for an exchange

start looking at originals for flaws too. theyre there, but most dont look for them as much.
there were at least 4 generations of e-body console molds. theyre all very similiar but have some very minor differences. like most parts do.

youd be surprised the variances between original parts, especially when your comparing a bunch of them to each other.  and you can usually find text like "rev #" "mold #"   or the like indicating the different castings, plus different vendor codes too. 

what ive learned is never describe a parts differences with 1 broad stroke

Quotethere is a depression or "divot" in the plastic...pretty deep, if not huge as far as size....my eye goes right to it

Your eye goes right to it because you're looking at it in perfect lighting with the reflection right on the defect.  Put it in the car and see if it still jumps out at you. :alan2cents:

hi Shadango

we sell our 71-4 auto consoles for $250 each

Classic list them for $259.99

with one of their 20% off deals comes out to $208 + shipping, which would be over $30 probably closer to $40 to the east coast

so that sounds like closer to $240 or $250.
im just asking to see what Classic is offering.
are you ok with posting the part of your invoice that shows the total paid for your order (without showing any personal info)

thank you

Quote from: TONY on July 24, 2019, 02:08:43 PM
hi Shadango

we sell our 71-4 auto consoles for $250 each

Classic list them for $259.99

with one of their 20% off deals comes out to $208 + shipping, which would be over $30 probably closer to $40 to the east coast

so that sounds like closer to $240 or $250.
im just asking to see what Classic is offering.
are you ok with posting the part of your invoice that shows the total paid for your order (without showing any personal info)

thank you

Tony,
I needed to get something from Classic once and the last time. The shipping was $40.00 for a small box under 2 lbs.
I needed to call then 3 times to get my $20.00 back. Never again
Bob   

Bob

thank you!
youre a long time and much appreciated customer.
were always happy to try and help you get the parts you need

thanks again

I bought mine from @Tony, no problems, very nice

Here was my review of the console lid:

I ordered the reproduction console lid. For $79, you'd expect something pretty good.

1) there were scratches on the inner console lid panel. Almost like screwdriver marring.
2) the holes for the latch were sloppy. I had to drill them out more. The hole for the retaining wire wasn't drilled out at all.
3) the fasteners were not close to stock. Some came with washers. Using the original fasteners didn't always work...many too short.
4) the fitment wasn't much better than what I had, so I threw it back in the box and it's about to go in the trash.
5) they actually provide you screws that if you tighten it too much, it deforms the other side. My god.

https://forum.e-bodies.org/deals-coupons-vendor-specials-and-product-reviews/16/the-reproduction-part-test-garage/8594/msg118626#msg118626

It was by far the crumiest part I have bought that was aftermarket. It's a VERY hard part to get right, don't me wrong...I'm not hear to crap on things. Just an honest opinion.

Quote from: VCODE on July 24, 2019, 10:22:12 AM
And how much did you pay for shipping from Classic? I would think more than $30.00
Did Tony have them at Carlisle.
Bob

I paid $233 shipped (free shipping, price was $250 less an online coupon code).

I also didnt have much room to take stuff back with me so having it shipped to my house made sense.

Quote from: TONY on July 24, 2019, 02:08:43 PM
hi Shadango

we sell our 71-4 auto consoles for $250 each

Classic list them for $259.99

with one of their 20% off deals comes out to $208 + shipping, which would be over $30 probably closer to $40 to the east coast

so that sounds like closer to $240 or $250.
im just asking to see what Classic is offering.
are you ok with posting the part of your invoice that shows the total paid for your order (without showing any personal info)

thank you

Hi Tony

I don't have the technology to do that at my current location but can send you an email from home later......but really anyone can get the same results by going to their site and doing a shopping cart.....(though had I waited and bought today, there would have been no free shipping).  If buying today the same console would be $274 shipped from them. 

Looking at my Classic receipt from that day, the total price I paid that day was  $237.94 -- $259 price, free shipping, an online discount code for 10% off that day, $3.94 extra for insurance. Complete and an "official licensed Mopar reproduction" (I assume yours are as well).

Yes, "only" $12 difference, some will say, had I paid $250 for yours at the show.

To be 100% honest, and since you seem interested in my thinking on "why" (if not I apologize) --  I also googled your site while at Carlisle to see what the usual price online was.....aaaaand.....it was the same as at the show, plus shipping. 

Years ago it seemed like most vendors would have special show pricing plus you save shipping....that's a great deal.....over the years it seems like more vendors are hyping the "free shipping" aspect and offering no show discount......when someone buying at the show saves money and time processing orders, packaging orders etc....yeah, a vendor has to haul the parts to the show.....but that would be made up in economy of scale I would think.

Some did this time but many did not....and my line of thinking is that if I can pay $x online or pay the same price "live" at an event like Carlisle for the same part from the same vendor, especially if having to pay CASH,  I have to look at other factors.....shipping is just one factor.

So I figured all I would save is shipping if I paid cash for yours versus your online site and then would have to lug it back to my car WAAAAAAAY across the grounds (my back and feet hurt)  and then stick it somewhere temporarily, and then pack and transport home. Seeing the box the one from Classic came in (double boxed to protect it) I would have had issues getting it home for SURE.

Plus have less liquid cash in my pocket for Carlisle $7 lemonades  LOL

I continued googling and ended up at Classic which offered free shipping to my door for purchases over $100 (or maybe it was $200)....so even without the coupon code it would have been less $$ total due to the free shipping.....

But again, I didn't want to have to get it home. I didn't have my truck at the show this year and had limited room for taking stuff home...so shipping straight to home was the best deal.

I also wanted to keep cash liquid in my pocket and use a credit card where I could......the used parts guys don't take credit cards, but most of the new parts vendors do.....I had bought seat backs at Vans earlier in the day (another reason I was concerned about having to haul parts home..LOL) and they took my credit card and that kept me liquid...

So, when I got to your spot and saw the consoles for sale, I actually was excited --  I asked at your spot but was told cash only.....honestly that factored in, and I decided to think on it.....and that led me to google later.

Plus I get 2% back on my CC purchases....another $4.76 in savings.....  Total $16.76 saved. And money is money. So it made sense to me all around, end of the day.

True that I could have inspected it "on site".....and its a headache to have to followup with the issue....

But I am cautiously sure that Classic will eventually step up....this aint my first rodayo -- I haven't heard back and its been a couple days....but I am sure it will taken care of.   And its not a rush situation.

Didn't really want to get into price-comparisons with a forum-sponsoring vendor and someone who has done so much good for the Mopar community (uncomfortable...LOL)

I was just more curious as to whether defects are common in the repops.....sound like they are somewhat.  The originals probably werent 100% perfect either....but I know my old pieces do not have this issue so I'd rather not have it.

I actually considered buying used...but everyone was asking $200-$300 and they all seemed to have the squiggly plastic strip part by the shifter (like shown on your site) and where mine broke....I figured new plastic in that area would be less likely to break than 40 year old plastic....LOL ...but would have bought just a used top half if I would have found it at less $$.  As it is, I get a 100% new console....even if a repop.

Anyways.....will post an update here.....I may try calling them direct ---want to get stuff sent back out over the weekend if need be.

shadango,
thanks for your response. did you order have to be above a certain amount to get free shipping?
or was your order just for the console?

kawahonda.
either you got a defect or are having issues on your end. we've sold over 1000 console doors and over 3000 consoles with the doors included and havent heard what your stating.

why didnt you return it to classic?

glad your not here to " crap on things" as you put it,  even though you wrote :
"It was by far the crumiest part I have bought that was aftermarket"

others from your post that you posted a link to shows that some others had different results:
JS29 wrote "I got A new console lid from tony's last year, I did have to make A small piece for the button to screw to but other than that I was pleased with the product."

ANLAUTO wrote " I've used several of @TONY (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/tony_147) 's complete consoles with great results. The lids close nicer on them then most factory consoles."

but ill tell you what, even though you didnt buy it from us, send it to me, and ill replace it.

i hope that helps

Quote from: TONY on July 26, 2019, 07:14:45 AM
shadango,
thanks for your response. did you order have to be above a certain amount to get free shipping?
or was your order just for the console?

It was just the console.

As I recall it was something like "over $229 ships free!"  or something.  That offer and the 10% off was expiring that day....

Their banners change all the time.

Today, no free shipping.....the code they have now for "up to 30%" gets me 10% if I plug it in now....

Not a big fan of constantly changing offers either....but hey.....saving the small change adds up to more parts I can buy.  :)

 I end up calling because I had heard from NO ONE......I am told that the lady who handles it will get back to me.

Three hours later I finally get an email asking me if I want to return the part or exchange it - when I had already explained what I wanted to the person I talked to on the phone. I want an exchange. So I call when I get home from work and its like pulling teeth to get help! I got the same person I spoke to earlier in the day. I again explained I just wanted a return label so I could get the part shipped back on saturday....I asked when my new part would be going out and was told he had to receive the bad part first. GREAT......another week just for that!

I asked if someone could inspect the new part before it goes out and I got cut off from the phone system and sat listening to dead air for 5 minutes, and then called back....... wait for 5 minutes while the operator gets me back to the same guy....

He tells me that the lady who handles this is going to expedite it......and that I should get a return label in a half hour or so....all the time slurping in my ear like he is eating something....

GREAT>>>>>I have to wait until you guys CLOSE for the day to find out if I get the label or not....FWIW, its been 15 minutes and still no label.

I order parts all the time online.......Summit, for instance....I have had few issues but when there has been, immediate help.....almost instant responses to email.....and then the process happens very quickly...I get parts from them in like a day...LOL...of course I live 2 hours from them.

Eastwood, same thing..>FAST and COURTEOUS.

NO EXCUSE for something like this to drag out over 3 days just to get started !!!

They can't be that bad compared to the originals. I kept trying to sell a nice original 4 speed one at the spring and fall fling and couldn't hardly give it away. Everyone kept telling me originals aren't worth buying anymore because the repo ones are so nice and relatively inexpensive.

I had one experience with Classic a while back where I was desperate for a Challenger trunk lid and EVERYBODY was out of stock yet their web site said they had stock. Instead of placing the order on line, I picked up the phone  and told the person I want to be 100% sure it was in stock ready to ship, and told them about the fact nobody else had stock....put me on hold for 5 minutes....came back said YUP ...no problem....I was very excited paid for it and waited....and waited....he said I would get an email with tracking when it shipped later that day....two days...three days....I call back....different person....Oh that part is out of stock....we won't have any for three months  :headbang: :headbang: "Would like like a refund? "

NO I WOULD LIKE A FRICKEN TRUNK LID !!!!!!!

Maybe my standards are too high when it comes to customer service, or maybe its the left coast laid back attitude ....lol

I eventually got the label via email....no "sorry for the delay"....just a link sent by UPS......gonna pack it up and ship back.

Returns/exchanges are never fun......and maybe I am just turning into a cranky old man....but I see no reason it took so long to get to this point.

Maybe they are just too big to care.....

Luckily for me this is no rush situation....I had actually grafted two different halves of the top section together to make a good one....that was some 10 years back.....and its worked since then....I could live with it frankly......maybe I should have just left well enough alone and lived with it...LOL

It's too bad it didn't work out. Personally I've crutched enough repo parts that I much prefer cleaned up originals but sometimes the repro parts are usable. It sounds like these consoles should be inspected closer before being shipped. We see lots of junk from AMD too.

Quote from: RUNCHARGER on July 27, 2019, 08:00:16 AM
It's too bad it didn't work out. Personally I've crutched enough repo parts that I much prefer cleaned up originals but sometimes the repro parts are usable. It sounds like these consoles should be inspected closer before being shipped. We see lots of junk from AMD too.

Well, they are supposed to send me another one...so hoping it DOES work out OK.

I got a set of repro seat backs from Vans at the show and they look good.....as far as my eye is concerned at least.....havent installed yet...gonna try to do today maybe....

Quote from: shadango on July 27, 2019, 04:15:37 AM
Maybe my standards are too high when it comes to customer service, or maybe its the left coast laid back attitude ....lol

Well if it's a West Coast thing then explain why I have the same kind of service from Year One......  I currently have a friends car in my shop that I'm doing a little project on... Turns out his engine wiring harness is toasty, someone butcher in an electronic ignition 35 years ago & it's time for a new one... Naturally it spite of my dislike for buying stuff from Year One they are "the source" for M&H wiring & so we have no options... Called in the order last Saturday, part is in stock, hoping to see the part maybe Thursday... But would also hope/expect to see tracking info Monday... Nope... Tuesday Nope... Tuesday later in the day I have my friend call to see whats going on... Well, it shipped Tuesday.... But the shipper hasn't posted a tracking update... No info Wednesday or Thursday.. Friday call again to rattle the cage... Finally a tracking update... As it turns out Year One shipped it by UPS but with their absolute cheapest service which means UPS gives the package to USPS for delivery.... We hope to see it Monday or Tuesday but no guaranty...  They charge how much for delivery??  They can't even provide tracking.....  I got burned a few times by Year One back in the 80's & 90's... I try never to buy from them & once again they have validated that opinion...

I feel Classic is the same.... I'll keep ordering from vendors I trust...

Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on July 27, 2019, 02:19:49 PM
Year One they are "the source" for M&H wiring & so we have no options...

MEGAPARTS sells M&H wiring  :alan2cents:

I actually think Roseville sells M&H as well  :thinking:

When it does make sure you check every circuit before trying to install it. I don't deal with One Year, haven't since about 1990 or so. They have some kind of an inlaw deal with UPS that makes it impossible to deal with them.

Sooooo....Classic called Friday and left a message saying that they "went thru every console we have in stock and they all have the dimple".....

Tony , Roseville or anyone else who has experience with the repop consoles...can you comment if this is "normal" or just a bad batch that they have?

Are they offering a refund? If not, I'd say I'll be steering clear of them.

WEll, they are saying "let us know what you want to do and they offered a refund or exchange.

I dont think there is anything sinister here.....

If all the repops out there have this dimple/divot then it is what it is.

If its NOT normal, then they have a bad batch and I will ask them if they intend on getting any more in or not and go from there.

If its "normal" I think I would just as soon stay with my imperfect original.  Its missing about a 1-2 inch piece strip on the left side next to the shifter....the main reason I am looking to replace.....I can barely see my frankenstein fix, joining two halves of a top together....and it has "patina" .  ;)

I'm afraid I can't be of much help. I have used several of the reproduction console and don't recall seeing a divot there  :huh:

I've tried to find pictures, but came up short....nothing real close up of that area.

But just so you know...There's only ONE manufacture of these consoles and he's a pretty upstanding member here...maybe talk to him...he stands behind his products. :worship:

Quote from: anlauto on August 05, 2019, 06:15:21 AM
I'm afraid I can't be of much help. I have used several of the reproduction console and don't recall seeing a divot there  :huh:

I've tried to find pictures, but came up short....nothing real close up of that area.

But just so you know...There's only ONE manufacture of these consoles and he's a pretty upstanding member here...maybe talk to him...he stands behind his products. :worship:

Thanks for the info...my opinion is that if you saw it in person you would remember it....

At the risk of sounding like an uneducated fool, who is the manufacturer you mention is a member here?

Quote from: shadango on August 05, 2019, 09:14:38 AM

At the risk of sounding like an uneducated fool, who is the manufacturer you mention is a member here?

These consoles and many other plastic interior pieces are manufactured by Tony's Parts @TONY (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/tony_147)  :worship:

Thanks for the reply Tony.....

Quote from: TONY on August 06, 2019, 02:36:59 PM
In regards to the dimple. Some of the repros have them and some don't. But guess what, we have originals that have the same dimple in the same spot. I'm pretty sure that it has to do with the way they got released from the mold. So I'm not trying to be a wisearse, but since we have some originals like that you can say that it's a copy of an original, lol. 
<snip>
I can't say for sure that all that Classic currently has in stock all have the dimple, but I do know from being in business sometimes it's easier to offer a refund then to try to look thru a huge inventory and still not be able to please the customer.
<snip>
I do agree what with member Burdar wrote early on in this thread "Your eye goes right to it because you're looking at it in perfect lighting with the reflection right on the defect.  Put it in the car and see if it still jumps out at you. :2cents:"
I think if you picture it again without the flash exactly on that area it wouldn't be highlighting the dimple and wouldn't be nearly as noticeable.
Once installed that area is partly hidden by the dash.

Well, I admit I am not anywhere near as experienced in the Mopar world as you or maybe many others here -- have been a Mopar fan all my life but really only owned my Barracuda for 10 years....which I put together myself and learned as I went....and relied on the help from many of the great folks who are now on this forum and on the other one.....

But I can tell you that every year at Carlisle or Nats as well as online etc for the last 10 years  I have looked for a good used console in great or even good shape that didn't break the bank. So I have seen a LOT of "old ones"....including just this past Carlisle....must have seen 100 of em.  LOL  All had issues and all were $250 or more....

But honestly, have NEVER seen a dimple like on the one Classic sent me, including on the repop one you had set up at your display at Carlisle.

So if its a "common" thing, I have never seen it.   I HAVE noticed a bowing of the thin plastic strip along the left side the gear shift on the older ones, which is broken on mine and missing a 2 inch piece and why I wanted to replace the whole console to begin with, so I have stayed away from those ones with the bow figuring it would break just like mine.....

I have seen other MINOR imperfections on old used ones and even on the display one you had at the show in the detail on the edges but that is not what I am talking about.

If the pothole is not on all of them, then I want one without.    :)

As far as the camera flash highlighting it.....nuh uh.

I saw the divot as soon as I pulled it out the box in my average-lit garage.   My 20 year old son pointed it out, uncoached...my wife said "yuck" when she saw it.

As you suggested I do not know if Classic bothered to actually look thru their inventory or not......but again, the new repop on YOUR display at Carlisle didnt have it so I know that not all have that defect.   I have not seen that defect on any pictures of the new repops online anywhere they are sold. So their "they all have it" can relate only to their stock, if they looked at all. And they may have just one or two in stock.

A slight blemish on a style line on it would be one thing...and those minor "defects" I DO see online and even on the one at your display...understandable and acceptable and as long as the overall defects are better than my current one, no worries - my car isnt a concourse restoration.......but this is a pothole, that will draw my eye every time now.  On the Barracudauda, mine at least, its not "under " the dash like some other models.....looking in from the passenger side, its plain as day.  Maybe someone else not looking wouldn't see it.....but I would, every time.

Heck, I am not even too worried about the "grain" as many are on interior pieces....I trust its correct and as long as it looks decent I am not gonna look at that with a magnifying glass. 

But I have enough defects on my car that bother me every time I see them (oh dont get my going there...LOL)....in fact this purchase was supposed to ELIMINATE one of those (the broken strip) , to go and add another one.  :)

My car is far from the perfect restos that Graveyard Cars does.....but I have watched enough of the shows to know that a part with a blemish like this would't get put on one of their cars.....they would go for a "more perfect one" if possible unless it was "correct" and not a choice......why should I accept any less?  I don't believe that most folks would want this defect on a brand new part they just bought and are putting into their prized possession.

Tony, as a Mopar enthusiast and car guy you know what I am saying is true.  I hear you talk all the time on TV about "correctness" and quality etc.   Even if some originals had the defect, it was still a defect.

As much money and  time and love and obsession as we all put into our cars, I have a hard time accepting that Classic wants me to just assume its normal and live with it when its obviously not the norm or part of the original design because its easier for them.  And this isn't a case of "the customer can't be made happy"......this is a case of a customer being told by Classic that "they all have it" when I know that is BS.  The original pieces I have seen do not, so if Classic says the repops do, they are in effect saying the repops are not good repops.....which I know is not the case.

.....again, I didn't know you were the manufacturer/distributor...but I am aware now and I'm glad to have the opportunity to talk to the man who actually controls the quality control on the parts....

So, now that my rant is off my chest  ( :D  )   I guess I am asking if there is anything you can do to help get me a version of the part that is not showing this (what I feel is a) defect and is a good example of a decent repop without obvious defects, that fits right and looks good?

If not, I'll tell Classic thanks but no thanks and continue my search for a "good one", maybe in person next year.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Quote from: TONY on July 26, 2019, 07:14:45 AM
we've sold over 1000 console doors and over 3000 consoles with the doors included and havent heard what your stating.

Think about that for a second. 3000 consoles. That's a lot of parts. Thanks for supporting the Mopar Industry @TONY (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/tony_147)! I think your consoles are in 25% or more of the old Mopars still out there.

And like you've said, the quality of these parts in 1970 wasn't all that great to begin with.

Quote from: Cuda_mark on August 07, 2019, 07:20:39 AM

Think about that for a second. 3000 consoles. That's a lot of parts. Thanks for supporting the Mopar Industry @TONY (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/tony_147)! I think your consoles are in 25% or more of the old Mopars still out there.

Agreed ---a lot of parts sold --- and if I can get one that doesn't have the dent in it and looks good, it'll be 3001.  :)  Here is to hoping and keeping my fingers crossed!  :andyangel:

And I thank Tony as well as Roseville and every other Mopar-specific vendor who has made it easy for we E-body fans to get our cars to a level of perfection not possible in as little as 10-15 years ago. I bow in the presence of ALL those folks.... truly doing a service to keep our hobby doable. :worship:

Quote from: Cuda_mark on August 07, 2019, 07:20:39 AM
And like you've said, the quality of these parts in 1970 wasn't all that great to begin with.

Not sure why that keeps getting said....

Yeah, the quality of our cars wasn't all that great in some areas as compared to today.....

But that was with 1970s technology.

I keep using GC as an an example....so one more time....orange peel and leaky windshields/back glass and drips in paint and poor panel fit was the norm back when our cars were new.....yet GC (and many of us I would think) do not accept that as something they want on our cars now. Mark says that all the time on the show. And I would rank Worman up there as a Mopar guru and artist.

Just sayin.

As an aside.....I get the feeling like my post on this topic, questioning the defect on the console I received from Classic, may be seen by some as some sort of affront to Tony or the overal quality of his product......(or maybe not, feeling paranoid today maybe...lol)...or that I am not "giving props where props are due" to someone.

It's not meant that way.

I had no idea Tony was the originator of these parts when I posted my original post. Not that it should matter, right?

If you look at my original post, I am clearly asking if the defect on the console I received is typical, having NEVER seen it in 10 years of owning my ebody and looking at a lot of consoles. Typical meaning "on most".  Not "an occasional defect".

Defects happen in any product, and I have no issue with that. I am not faulting anyone for anything.

But I also do not have an issue with expecting to not have to accept what is clearly a manufacturing defect -- (and if it isnt on the majority of original or repop consoles, it IS a defect)  as in any way "normal" even if that defect happened now and then when the parts were originally made. If I would have bought a brand new car then and it had this problem, I would have pointed it out before taking delivery and it would have been addressed, just like we do today when there is some issue with a new car.  Well, I know *I* do....I dont just write it up as a manufacturing defect and live with it.

Just because 40 years ago quality was poor doesn't mean it should be accepted today unless the defect was part and parcel to ALL of the original parts and actually part of the design....like those "correct" casting lines on thermostat housings that are sought after.....

If it was truly "out of sight" I wouldn't care. But it is, so I do.

Like I said.....no trying to rock any boats, piss off anyone considered Mopar royalty or be a tool in general...

Just want to get a console that looks great and replaces the old defective one I already have.

Wow....two rants in a day......LOL....I need a vacation I guess.   :tired:

Just got off the phone with a Dave C. from Classic.

He says they had 9 of them in stock when I initially contacted them with the issue and those 9 have the issue.

I asked if they would be getting any more in and he did say they had just gotten more in and would have his best guy pull them and see if they too have the issue or not and thoroughly inspect and let me know via phone.

Crossing my fingers.  (Is there a "crossing fingers" emoticon?? LOL)

Well, Classic got back to me Friday afternoon....

They say that they got 9 more consoles in and all have the same defect.

Having never seen this defect on any console before , used old parts or new, I know this isn't on all of them.....

I asked for a refund.

I guess I will hold off until I can either get one from a vendor who will make sure that what they send me is 100% great or til I can inspect one in person.

No point exchanging one console with a defect that draws my eye to it every time I see it with another that does the same.    :crying:

Classic sell junk I bought parts for a Camaro from them 20 years ago and everything I bought was junk I would never buy Mopar parts from them. When did they start selling Mopar parts anyway and why? they should stick to Chev junk, it's even more fun for me in Australia having to deal with the return merry go round. I only deal with proper vendors who only sell Mopar parts and have been doing so for years not Johnny come lately trying to cash in on us. Better to support those who deserve it even if it costs a couple of dollars more it works out better in the end less hassles and they know and care about what they are selling.

Quote from: aussiemark on August 11, 2019, 05:47:42 AM
Classic sell junk I bought parts for a Camaro from them 20 years ago and everything I bought was junk I would never buy Mopar parts from them. ......Better to support those who deserve it even if it costs a couple of dollars more it works out better in the end less hassles and they know and care about what they are selling.

On the service side I agree ----   paying a little less for a product isnt worth it if the service end stinks. 

That said...as far as the products being "junk"........they only sell products, they don't make them...just like any other "Mopar" vendor........according to what I was told in this thread (above) there is only one manufacturer of these consoles and that is Tony's Parts. My guess (and only Tony can confirm or deny) is that these consoles are made in some chinese factory just like most other things these days and are subject to the same issues as any other item. Buying chinese parts for my American Mopar really chaps my hide...but thats a topic for another thread and day.

The console I got didn't seem like "junk" to me....on the contrary, it seemed , during the short time I looked at it before I found the defect, like it was as good as the original part. I never had the chance to try and fit it....I knew I didnt want that specific one once I saw the defect. So I cannot speak to that aspect.  From what I hear they fit as good as the originals (for better or worse), one reason I bought it to begin with.

So.....I am reviving my thread on this...still interested in the repops...

Wondering if anyone has bought one lately and if they could report back as far as the divot (whether yours has one or not)?  Last I talked to Classic, they claim to have checked all their stock and they all had them....at the time I figured i would give it some time and see what happened.....

I was watching my DVRd episodes of GYC tonight and Tony was on one of them (the one where he was concerned about some sanding scratches deep under the paint on his car being done, seen at certain angles and how he wanted to NOT have that defect), and it reminded me about this.

I was hoping to do Carlisle this year so I can find one and see it in person before buying but it's looking more and more like that aint happening (Thanks Governor Wolf!).....

I read on here somewhere that the top plate fitment issue with the center console is a thing with the repro industry. Well, I usually work on my interior stuff at home when not working on my car at the body shop. I pulled out my repro top plate and repro center console. Turns out, i have a fitment issue. Does anyone have an idea if this is fixable somehow? The top plates fits perfectly flush on a original center console, but not on my repro center console. There's only about 5 inches worth where the plate doesn't sit flush onto the repro center console. Everywhere else, it fits good. I figured maybe using a heat gun, but I would be afraid to warp the plastic somehow? Any advice would be appreciated. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210606/6d144462faf1cdefdd0bf4def89e84a1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210606/ef5eaa87bbe18369d421bf9c2a283c72.jpg)

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You can heat gently just be carefull to not get too hot, I`ve done it with an original warped grill.

Oh man you do need a vacation !! 

Real simple.

A. Return console and look for a new one or nice used one

B. Keep what you bought

Life's to short to go insane over this

@purepony not sure if that was towards me or not. Lol i have an idea on how to fix this on my console. I think it'll definitely workout. I talked to Tony and he gave me some good ideas. Lol


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Get out the grinder and start beveling the bottom edge/corner of the top plate.   With a bevel on the bottom edge instead of a sharp 90 degree corner, it will sit down lower into the console.  :alan2cents:

@burdar  thank you. That's exactly what I will be doing for sure!

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