Not mine, belongs to a friend. The car has been 100% rotisseried. There is zero rust and any panel that had signed was 100% replaced, no patch panels or half panels. This car was restored the right way.
Number matching 318, auto, with AC. The simply needs to be finished putting back together. The K frame and the 8 3/4 diff have been 100% restored. The transmission and engine have also been completely redone.
The paint work he does is fantastic. His paint work has been wet sanded to a perfectly smooth finish. I call it very show worthy. Call Vince and he would be happy to tell you all about it and what steps are needed to complete the car.
The car is in Pittsburg.
The price is $40k
Please contact Vince
412-519-8180
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All the hard work is done . . . why sell now? :dunno:
I didn't get into why or if he "needs" the money but he did mention that he wants to fund a building construction project. I bought a car from him in the past and I will attest to the quality of his work. If you have ever seen a buddies work and were in awe....this is it for me.
You should have bought it for your Hemi swap instead of using an original 340 Cuda. :alan2cents:
My Cuda was a roller, it didn't have a motor or trans. I wouldn't part out a numbers car like that. There are too many that are already non-matching to choose from.
:clueless: I understand the "matching number" mindset....
However a non-matching number BS23H1B is worth way more restored original then a number matching BH23G1B at the end of the day. :alan2cents: Building a modified car makes more sense starting with a lesser valued car in my opinion....
I think this car will be great with a Hellcat swap too, which I'm sure is what will end up happening to it....
@Cuda Cody (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cuda-cody_1) 's little mice are already spinning that wheel... :rofl:
Chiquita is getting a Hellcat for sure. The motor is sitting next to her now and the new transmission. I'm waiting on the new K frame and Dana 60 to show up to start working on her.
Interesting ... is it FY1 or GY3?? I'm guessing FY1??
Give Vince a call or text, he's a great guy and easy to talk to. If I find out for sure I'll post it here too
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Quote from: anlauto on March 21, 2018, 10:28:56 AM
:clueless: I understand the "matching number" mindset....
However a non-matching number BS23H1B is worth way more restored original then a number matching BH23G1B at the end of the day. :alan2cents: Building a modified car makes more sense starting with a lesser valued car in my opinion....
And a BS23H1B with a Hellcat engine is worth way more than a numbers matching car. At the end of the day, it's
@71Cuda (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/71cuda_1433)'s car and he should do whatever he wants with it. :alan2cents:
Quote from: 303 Mopar on March 22, 2018, 05:08:14 AM
Quote from: anlauto on March 21, 2018, 10:28:56 AM
:clueless: I understand the "matching number" mindset....
However a non-matching number BS23H1B is worth way more restored original then a number matching BH23G1B at the end of the day. :alan2cents: Building a modified car makes more sense starting with a lesser valued car in my opinion....
And a BS23H1B with a Hellcat engine is worth way more than a numbers matching car. At the end of the day, it's @71Cuda (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/71cuda_1433)'s car and he should do whatever he wants with it. :alan2cents:
I seriously doubt that :stop:
Quote from: anlauto on March 22, 2018, 06:00:37 AM
Quote from: 303 Mopar on March 22, 2018, 05:08:14 AM
Quote from: anlauto on March 21, 2018, 10:28:56 AM
:clueless: I understand the "matching number" mindset....
However a non-matching number BS23H1B is worth way more restored original then a number matching BH23G1B at the end of the day. :alan2cents: Building a modified car makes more sense starting with a lesser valued car in my opinion....
And a BS23H1B with a Hellcat engine is worth way more than a numbers matching car. At the end of the day, it's @71Cuda (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/71cuda_1433)'s car and he should do whatever he wants with it. :alan2cents:
I seriously doubt that :stop:
How much do you think a numbers 340 '71 Cuda is worth? $50-60k? https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1971-Plymouth-Cuda-340?vin=BS23H1B205325
Sorry, but you put a Hellcat engine in '71 Cuda and it is currently worth more.
who comes up with,
WHAT ITS WORTH
Folks, thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with me about my car and the Hellcat.
If we can help me spread the word about Vince's 71 Barracuda and let's find it a new home. I promise you the man does impressive work and the new owner will essentially have a brand new 1971 car. Vince is methodical and passionate about his cars. He built each of them to keep and he poured in the extra love and attention that a passionate owner would. Things change in life and he wants to sell the car to help with another non-car project.
If you know of anyone looking for such a car, please share. When I can get even more pictures I will post them.
If you have any questions about the car, you can call or text Vince 412-519-8180
We should keep this on topic for sure. At the end of the day it is a hobby that is meant to be enjoyable. Perhaps a moderator will clean up this thread and keep it about the original car.
That Gy3 looks awesome!
if you get a picture of the fender tag and options post it up. Fender tag always help the sale.
Is there a build sheet?
Any other original dealer paperwork?
Does he have a complete kit for the car? All the parts?
Quote from: 303 Mopar on March 22, 2018, 06:20:09 AM
Quote from: anlauto on March 22, 2018, 06:00:37 AM
Quote from: 303 Mopar on March 22, 2018, 05:08:14 AM
Quote from: anlauto on March 21, 2018, 10:28:56 AM
:clueless: I understand the "matching number" mindset....
However a non-matching number BS23H1B is worth way more restored original then a number matching BH23G1B at the end of the day. :alan2cents: Building a modified car makes more sense starting with a lesser valued car in my opinion....
And a BS23H1B with a Hellcat engine is worth way more than a numbers matching car. At the end of the day, it's @71Cuda (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/71cuda_1433)'s car and he should do whatever he wants with it. :alan2cents:
I seriously doubt that :stop:
How much do you think a numbers 340 '71 Cuda is worth? $50-60k? https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1971-Plymouth-Cuda-340?vin=BS23H1B205325
Sorry, but you put a Hellcat engine in '71 Cuda and it is currently worth more.
If I may give my opinion. Both of you make very good points and it would really come down to the type of buyer. Since I have the very car your talking about and even considered doing the swap when the Hellcrate came out. After really thinking it over I think if it's a non matching numbers car the Hellcrate would bring more money at auction. I watch all the auctions and the trend is the restomods are bringing stronger money that originals pretty much across the board. Obviously we are not talking Hemi or 6 pack cars here. Now since mine is a matching number 4 speed car I believe that is not the way to go for me. Not to mention I love playing with 340's!
No one can say what the future holds when all the original stuff has dried up. At some point people just won't drive them anymore because of the rarity. IMO So if they are just basically show cars will the all original shoot past the restomods? Will people be more interested in how they came from the factory and listen to how they sound? Only time will tell.
I have pondered this question to myself. What is the value difference in a 71 true Cuda restomod and a 71 Barracuda cloned with all the Cuda stuff and built identical in every single aspect. Only difference being VIN. I suspect the Cuda will prevail and that's just based on my personal thoughts. If I'm spending big bucks on a one of those cars I want a real Cuda. So if that's the case do you spend all the time and money on a Barracuda? :thinking:
Quote from: 69CudaFan on March 22, 2018, 07:59:56 AM
We should keep this on topic for sure. At the end of the day it is a hobby that is meant to be enjoyable. Perhaps a moderator will clean up this thread and keep it about the original car.
Quote from: Shane Kelley on March 22, 2018, 08:48:00 AM
Quote from: 303 Mopar on March 22, 2018, 06:20:09 AM
Quote from: anlauto on March 22, 2018, 06:00:37 AM
Quote from: 303 Mopar on March 22, 2018, 05:08:14 AM
Quote from: anlauto on March 21, 2018, 10:28:56 AM
:clueless: I understand the "matching number" mindset....
However a non-matching number BS23H1B is worth way more restored original then a number matching BH23G1B at the end of the day. :alan2cents: Building a modified car makes more sense starting with a lesser valued car in my opinion....
And a BS23H1B with a Hellcat engine is worth way more than a numbers matching car. At the end of the day, it's @71Cuda (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/71cuda_1433)'s car and he should do whatever he wants with it. :alan2cents:
I seriously doubt that :stop:
How much do you think a numbers 340 '71 Cuda is worth? $50-60k? https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1971-Plymouth-Cuda-340?vin=BS23H1B205325
Sorry, but you put a Hellcat engine in '71 Cuda and it is currently worth more.
If I may give my opinion. Both of you make very good points and it would really come down to the type of buyer. Since I have the very car your talking about and even considered doing the swap when the Hellcrate came out. After really thinking it over I think if it's a non matching numbers car the Hellcrate would bring more money at auction. I watch all the auctions and the trend is the restomods are bringing stronger money that originals pretty much across the board. Obviously we are not talking Hemi or 6 pack cars here. Now since mine is a matching number 4 speed car I believe that is not the way to go for me. Not to mention I love playing with 340's!
No one can say what the future holds when all the original stuff has dried up. At some point people just won't drive them anymore because of the rarity. IMO So if they are just basically show cars will the all original shoot past the restomods? Will people be more interested in how they came from the factory and listen to how they sound? Only time will tell.
I have pondered this question to myself. What is the value difference in a 71 true Cuda restomod and a 71 Barracuda cloned with all the Cuda stuff and built identical in every single aspect. Only difference being VIN. I suspect the Cuda will prevail and that's just based on my personal thoughts. If I'm spending big bucks on a one of those cars I want a real Cuda. So if that's the case do you spend all the time and money on a Barracuda? :thinking:
I started a new thread to redirect this conversation - https://forum.e-bodies.org/cuda-and-challenger-general-discussion-roseville-moparts/2/numbers-matching-vs-non-numbers-vs-gen-iii-swap-now-and-in-future/6092/msg85603#msg85603
Heck I would have bit on this deal but I already had a yellow BS Cuda.
:ohyeah: