Looking for some feedback on PIE crate engines? I am thinking of buying their 408 Stroker engine.
I bought a 408 stroker crate engine from Carolina Machine Engines and will never buy another crate engine again. They sent a dyno video of a different engine, shipped it with the wrong parts and it leaked like a stuck pig. When I called are wrote them with my issues, including pictures, they said to pull it and ship it back at my expense and only if they found something wrong would they fix it. However shipping would all be at my expense.
You are much better off finding a good machine shop/engine builder local to you who will listen to what you want and then build you and engine within your budget. Then, if something goes wrong you simply take it to them to fix.
and I had the opposite experience with Carolina Machine and Engine. I bought a crate 526 from them several years ago based on favorable reviews that I found on the net. Mine has run perfectly and never leaked a drop of oil. Either I was lucky, or, their quality has gone down. :)
Anything on this builder?
https://blueprintengines.com/collections/chrysler-crate-engines
And this one? I was thinking getting a 408 stroker short block from them but finally decided to go with an engine builder using my 340 block.
https://www.high-performance-engines.com/chrysler-crate-engines-s/102.htm
Nobody out there has bought a PIE Engine??????????
http://www.dakotart.com/forum/showthread.php?17664-Performance-injection-equipment
If you decide to buy any crate engine factor in the cost of completely tearing it down & checking everything .
So far I have yet to see a properly built crate engine from anyone :alan2cents:
Thank you, seems like a lot of guys really like him on the Dakota site!
Well I guess Bullit does but the rest of dont know much. There are mixed reviews about blueprint, but their prices are more fair vs PIE.
Quote from: Cudakiller70 on July 09, 2019, 12:39:48 PM
Anything on this builder?
https://blueprintengines.com/collections/chrysler-crate-engines
There are a lot of good reviews for the BluePrint 408 on the FABO forum. One of the employees is also a forum member/sponsor. I think they are only doing Magnum based engines going forward because they can't get enough LA blocks for the scale of production they need.
Hey all,
New to this forum, but I'm Johnny Mac over on the FABO forum, and FBBO forum also. Resident Mopar guy for BluePrint!
I don't know the forum rules over here, but happy to answer any questions. You can PM me for contact info since I don't want to get booted on day 1 :)
To speak to the previous comments, every engine we build is fully dyno tested, with a 30 month warranty, and you get your ACTUAL dyno sheet. I race/build mopars and have A and B bodies, so happy to help a mopar guy any time.
We are still taking orders for the current 408, but will be very shortly switching to a magnum based 408 (which will bolt in place of an LA since we use the LA timing cover, and balance the crank as an LA. The intake pattern is all that changes between the two.
we do currently offer a magnum headed 408, and aluminum headed 408. both are on our website, or i can PM links.
hopefully I can help anyone with questions!
Johnny M
:waving:Another Welcome from Panama
Welcome. I wish my 340 would blow up so I could get a stroker.
A great :welcome: from Riverside CA
Thanks for the Welcomes guys!!!
I'm actually looking for a few guys that would want one of our new 408 roller cam engines, as R&D is complete, and i'm basically just awaiting paperwork.
They're a pretty awesome upgrade over the flat tappet engine its replacing. If anyone wants details on "pre introduction" pricing, and to snag one of the first ones please PM me!
Quote from: Johnny Mac on July 11, 2019, 05:30:58 AM
Thanks for the Welcomes guys!!!
I'm actually looking for a few guys that would want one of our new 408 roller cam engines, as R&D is complete, and i'm basically just awaiting paperwork.
They're a pretty awesome upgrade over the flat tappet engine its replacing. If anyone wants details on "pre introduction" pricing, and to snag one of the first ones please PM me!
Welcome to the site and thanks for joining! Using my experience with a CME 408 crate engine, what is your policy if there are issues once the engine is shipped to me and installed. For example, there are leaks or grinding noises or wrong parts internally installed? I need to pull it and send it back to you to fix. Who pays shipping, labor, parts, etc?
Quote from: 303 Mopar on July 11, 2019, 06:20:25 AM
Quote from: Johnny Mac on July 11, 2019, 05:30:58 AM
Thanks for the Welcomes guys!!!
I'm actually looking for a few guys that would want one of our new 408 roller cam engines, as R&D is complete, and i'm basically just awaiting paperwork.
They're a pretty awesome upgrade over the flat tappet engine its replacing. If anyone wants details on "pre introduction" pricing, and to snag one of the first ones please PM me!
Welcome to the site and thanks for joining! Using my experience with a CME 408 crate engine, what is your policy if there are issues once the engine is shipped to me and installed. For example, there are leaks or grinding noises or wrong parts internally installed? I need to pull it and send it back to you to fix. Who pays shipping, labor, parts, etc?
Excellent questions!
To go down the list, we do about anything we can to work with customers, and keep everyone happy. We're a very large company cranking out about 50 engines a day, so all of our engine builds have been through rigorous R&D, and follow a very specific build list, and specs criteria. The odds of one getting incorrect parts is pretty slim.
as far as warranty issues, if its something minor, Say a rocker arm breaks, or valve cover gasket leaks, we would send out new rocker arms, or gaskets, etc. Even if a distributor died on one of our dress engines, we'd send out a new one.
as far as major failures (eats bearings, breaks a rod) If its something that is a material defect, we would ship the engine back, and either repair/replace pending the damage. We would pay freight both ways, and repair the engine.
Now say we get the engine back, and we find your kiddos hotwheels car in the oil pan...we'll still help, work with you on fixing it, but there may be some parts/labor involved. (at still a very fair rate)
For example, i had a customer recently manage to get a BIG piece of copper down his intake on a chrysler 408. It was some homemade intake divider. It went through several pistons, made it to the pan...was pretty ugly. We STILL got the engine back, went through it for him, and only charged some freight/parts. We don't want to leave any customers out on their own.
As more assurance, we dyno test every single engine we produce, and we have a multi point inspection at every dyno session. This includes an oil filter inspection, as well as a UV light/dye test to look for leaks while the engine is on the dyno. these two tests alone will validate bearing integrity, and really weed out a problem engine from one that would have otherwise shipped.
We're a great company, with a very low warranty rate, and we use that dyno test as one last QC check before we send the engine out.
any other questions let me know! i'm a pretty transparent guy, and happy to help.
Johnny M
BluePrint Engines
Quote from: Johnny Mac on July 11, 2019, 07:10:20 AM
Quote from: 303 Mopar on July 11, 2019, 06:20:25 AM
Quote from: Johnny Mac on July 11, 2019, 05:30:58 AM
Thanks for the Welcomes guys!!!
I'm actually looking for a few guys that would want one of our new 408 roller cam engines, as R&D is complete, and i'm basically just awaiting paperwork.
They're a pretty awesome upgrade over the flat tappet engine its replacing. If anyone wants details on "pre introduction" pricing, and to snag one of the first ones please PM me!
Welcome to the site and thanks for joining! Using my experience with a CME 408 crate engine, what is your policy if there are issues once the engine is shipped to me and installed. For example, there are leaks or grinding noises or wrong parts internally installed? I need to pull it and send it back to you to fix. Who pays shipping, labor, parts, etc?
Excellent questions!
We're a great company, with a very low warranty rate, and we use that dyno test as one last QC check before we send the engine out.
any other questions let me know! i'm a pretty transparent guy, and happy to help.
Johnny M
BluePrint Engines
Thank you for your quick and up front response! Sounds much better than my past experience.
Now we are talking !!
Sounds like Good builds with excellent service to back it up !
I bought a 350 roller cam chevy from blueprint through Summit. 400 horse and delivered in like 3 days. Free shipping. $100 off during a christmass special. Runs great had it 1 1/2 years. Good support for tuning and questions will do it again some day too.
Just wanted to say thanks again on this on! received several calls stating what a great forum this is, and they were calling from this thread.
looking forward to hanging around! maybe i'll have to start shopping for an E-body!
Quote from: signsgonebye on July 09, 2019, 08:12:09 AM
Looking for some feedback on PIE crate engines? I am thinking of buying their 408 Stroker engine.
After reading what happened to member Cordodge with his hemi crate engine, I would talk to the prospective crate engine business to get a 'feel' for their customer service, ask a lot of questions to make sure you know what they offer and that they are capable of delivering what you are asking for. Above all don't order until you need it. The warranty can run out while it sits on the stand.