I was recently watching Barrett-Jackson or Mecum auctions and saw a "restored" 1970 N96 Shaker hood triple Black 440 'Cuda come across the block. The commentators stated that it was an original X9 triple black Cuda and it came with the original broadcast sheet to prove it. They stated that the car had been restored back to original "factory" condition. However, the Shaker bubble was gloss black, not argent or organosol back. Is that possible that the car came with a gloss black shaker bubble? I thought the only cars that got a body color shaker where the red cars. I read several threads on here and C.C.com re shaker colors and most deal with the Challengers. However, the few that said anything about black shakers said they were organosol black. :dunno:
The reason I ask is that my original N96 '70 'Cuda (build date 6-1970) was originally lemon twist yellow. When I bought the car the shaker was painted a flat black, I think. I reason I said I think, is that if it had been painted it had been painted at least 25 years ago and/or if original color could have easily been faded. See attached picture). Anyway, I changed my cars color to Black and it is now triple black. I was going to paint the shaker bubble argent silver but if gloss black was an option I'd like to go that route as I really liked how it looked on the auction car. Anybody have an answer for me?
Gloss black was never an option for shaker bubbles :alan2cents:
Thanks Alan. That was quick. So with a black car is it supposed to be Argent silver or organosol black?
Yes
Same argent as the grille, the two match. The only way you're going to get them to match is paint them at the same time. You will also have to base color both the grille and bubble with light grey primer, the same base color is important so the shade of argent matches.
Thanks Alan and Hemicuda! :twothumbsup:
Quote from: HEMICUDA on January 29, 2018, 06:28:29 PM
Same argent as the grille, the two match. The only way you're going to get them to match is paint them at the same time. You will also have to base color both the grille and bubble with light grey primer, the same base color is important so the shade of argent matches.
Important point. :bigthumb:
Were the grills and the shaker bubbles made at the same time in the same manufacturing plant ? :thinking:
Quote from: anlauto on January 30, 2018, 07:20:06 AM
Were the grills and the shaker bubbles made at the same time in the same manufacturing plant ? :thinking:
That is a good question. How likely did a factory optioned car have the grill and shaker match if they were painted seperately? hmm?
Quote from: kdcarman on January 30, 2018, 07:27:35 AM
Quote from: anlauto on January 30, 2018, 07:20:06 AM
Were the grills and the shaker bubbles made at the same time in the same manufacturing plant ? :thinking:
That is a good question. How likely did a factory optioned car have the grill and shaker match if they were painted seperately? hmm?
We all know the quality of assembly when these cars came off the line. Ever looked at the welds? :haha: :wave:
Quote from: anlauto on January 30, 2018, 07:20:06 AM
Were the grills and the shaker bubbles made at the same time in the same manufacturing plant ? :thinking:
Fram painted the grilles and the bubbles.
Quote from: kdcarman on January 30, 2018, 07:27:35 AM
Quote from: anlauto on January 30, 2018, 07:20:06 AM
Were the grills and the shaker bubbles made at the same time in the same manufacturing plant ? :thinking:
That is a good question. How likely did a factory optioned car have the grill and shaker match if they were painted seperately? hmm?
The bubble and grille matched perfectly on my 3,900 mile survivor.
70 and 71 grills were manufactured at North American Plastics in Wallaceburg Ontario.
All grills were painted in house at NAP
Scoops were manufactured at Somerville-Belkin 3 hours away and shipped to Fram in Chatham, Ontario, .. unpainted.
Fram was the manufacturer of all the steel parts for the shaker system,
that is various bases, adapter ring, hot/cold doors, and lids and having them painted black over bare steel.
Cables, grills, seals,nameplates , filters, and the scoops all manufactured elsewhere, were shipped in to Fram for the complete assembly.
Painting the scoops was thrust upon Fram and they were not happy, but initially did all the red ones and some early argent ones.
This was all told to me by the very man who hand painted those red and argent scoops .
After problems getting the argent to stick to the material of the scoop, he convinced the Fram brass to have Chrysler
direct the manufacturer to ship scoops to NAP in Wallaceburg since they were familiar with proper application and already using the argent paint.
After the argent paint ( exact same as the grill paint ) was applied to the scoops, NAP expeadiated them 18 miles south to Fram in Chatham for final assembly.
An interesting fact is that my friend told me the best way he could get the argent to stick was to paint over an already red painted scoop.
I have seen several such scoops and I've owned this original one for 35 years.
Thank you Terry :worship: :cheers:
Thx for the in depth explanation Terry. The most important point is, the shaker bubble and grille matched. There has been some grossly false information over the years from "experts" that shaker bubbles were painted light argent which is totally untrue.
Amazing info Terry.