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Title: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: Antonios saragias on July 15, 2018, 07:06:45 AM
I own a 1970 Challenger with a factory power sunroof,
What's it worth?
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on July 15, 2018, 07:29:45 AM
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Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: xx88man on July 15, 2018, 08:20:10 AM
Can you give us more details? It makes a ton of difference what the car is and how it was equipped
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: cuda hunter on July 15, 2018, 08:38:44 AM
Is there a fender tag and a build sheet? 

These items will truly help us understand what the car is and what it's value might be.

Does the power sunroof still work?

Is the car fc7?  What color is the interior?   What motor?  What transmission?  What rear end?  mileage?  restore?   
And more questions?...?
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: RUNCHARGER on July 15, 2018, 09:13:07 AM
IMO for what it's worth. I feel a rare option such as a sunroof only adds value if the car is totally restored to original. What I mean is if you have a 318 Challenger factory equipped with cruise control and sunroof, if the car is modified with a 440. 4 speed etc. then the sunroof and cruise control really don't add anything to the value over a similarly modified car without those options.
I imagine if someone valued the sunroof option that it could add between $1k and $5k to the car over a similar car without the option, and that depends on what other options it is equipped with (original Hemi car with a factory sunroof, you're going to pay big time).
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: Antonios saragias on July 15, 2018, 10:16:38 AM
M51 code is not on the fender tag, I don't have built sheet either,
It's a 318, 904 trans, # matching, original plum crazy,
All original panels, fenders , doors, qtpls, floors n trunk solid,
No rust anywhere, was a garage find 30yrs in storage, I've owned
It last 15,yrs, all original except for bolt on stuff like seats rims hood and
Headers , 80 miles ,
Everything works except power motor that operates sunroof is
A little weak, I've since closed sunroof and disconnect it so I don't
Burn it out" I don't know if there's replacement parts for system
Or if power motor is replaceable,
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: Cuda Cody on July 15, 2018, 12:26:43 PM
Looks nice @Antonios saragias (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/antonios-saragias_2262)   :banana:  Welcome to the site.   :welcome:

Do you know if sunroof cars normally have M51 on the fender tag?
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: JS29 on July 15, 2018, 12:35:33 PM
I see New York plates on your ride!! I am in central NY, where are you located?  :welcome:
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: 6bblgt on July 15, 2018, 12:58:19 PM
a 1970 Challenger with a factory sunroof will not have M51 on the fender tag

@Antonios saragias (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/antonios-saragias_2262)  can you post a picture of the fender tag?

GG's "white book" shows '70 Challenger sunroof production as:
JH23 ~ 114
JS23 ~ 82

Scott has an on-line Mopar sunroof registry ***** https://moparsunroofregistry.com/sunroof-cars/

Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: Antonios saragias on July 15, 2018, 01:48:57 PM
I'm in queens ny,
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: Antonios saragias on July 15, 2018, 01:50:29 PM
Thank you :bigthumb:
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: superdave on July 15, 2018, 09:15:26 PM
 That is a fantastic car! :bradsthumb: Personally I like the odd things (not that the sunroof is odd, that's just cool) But other than that it is a very low optioned car, which I think is cool and maybe a bit unusual, just not going to make it worth more.  :(
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: ec_co on July 16, 2018, 09:59:40 PM
 :twothumbsup:  cool car. love the sunroof, low options, built a couple days before I was born. as far as value, maybe adds a few grand. but it's a 318/auto, not exactly what most folks pay high $$ for (same with me and my /6 ... but worse for me, lol). expect pricing better than a standard 318 sale, but not near what a 340 or 383 would bring. it **is** a very cool and rare option though, most folks just won't pay a huge premium for it though.
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: Culvers on July 17, 2018, 01:57:35 AM
I think the sunroof is not original on the car, therefor the VON should start with a K.
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: fc7cuda on July 17, 2018, 05:52:02 AM
Quote from: Culvers on July 17, 2018, 01:57:35 AM
I think the sunroof is not original on the car, therefor the VON should start with a K.

From the moparsunroofregistry.com:

Several 70 sunroof Challengers did not receive a K00 VON, but the option
shows up on the broadcast sheets. The current working theory is that 1970 Challengers ordered
up directly from Headquarters or the Assembly plant got the special VON, while 1970
Challengers ordered by customers through dealerships got the standard numeric VON.


Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: anlauto on July 17, 2018, 07:22:33 AM
Member @bpsmopar (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/bpsmopar_242) owns at least four 1970 challlengers with factory sunroofs, he might have some insight as to their value :dunno:
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: sdweatherman on July 19, 2018, 12:28:58 AM
Quote from: fc7cuda on July 17, 2018, 05:52:02 AM
Quote from: Culvers on July 17, 2018, 01:57:35 AM
I think the sunroof is not original on the car, therefor the VON should start with a K.

From the moparsunroofregistry.com:

Several 70 sunroof Challengers did not receive a K00 VON, but the option
shows up on the broadcast sheets. The current working theory is that 1970 Challengers ordered
up directly from Headquarters or the Assembly plant got the special VON, while 1970
Challengers ordered by customers through dealerships got the standard numeric VON.


Yes, the 1970 Challengers are a special case - not following the rules like other makes and models. It's unfortunate that there is not a buildsheet, so that we could be 100% sure of the sunroof installation. The only other option is to chase down previous owners to find out if the sunroof was original to the car when new.

Antonios - have you done any owner history research on your car yet?

Scott.
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: anlauto on July 20, 2018, 04:04:02 AM
Would a 1972 Challenger have M51 on the tag ?
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: sdweatherman on July 20, 2018, 05:02:57 AM
Quote from: anlauto on July 20, 2018, 04:04:02 AM
Would a 1972 Challenger have M51 on the tag ?
With a few exceptions, the 1969 through 1972 power sunroof cars did not have M51 on the tag. Once ASC started providing the manual sunroof kits to Chrysler for the 1973 model year, M52 started showing up on the tags.
Scott.
Title: Re: 70 Challenger factory power sunroof car,what’s it worth?
Post by: anlauto on July 20, 2018, 07:42:28 AM
There was a guy here at my shop the other day swears his 1972 Challenger has M51 on the tag and on the broadcast sheet.....I'm still waiting to see both.... :thinking: