I put the Stabil in the tank today and topped it up, started it and ran it for a few minutes. Then I moved it and saw a big oil spot on the floor. I think it's coming from the oil filter but see what you think. 340 engine.
Give that filter a twist and see if she moves. Looks like it just might be the filter. :fingerscrossed:
Looks like the filter could well be the issue with it running down the header..
Had one leaking on a Caravan a year ago, couldn't see why.. it just leaked, wasn't loose.
I had a passenger side valve cover gasket that leaked on the intake side, and it ran around the gasket to lowest point on head, dripped down onto the head bolt right above the filter, and down on to my 90 degree adapter. Had exact same characteristic drip pattern on filter and headers... if filter is tight, check higher up on engine... vc gasket, oil pressure switch is another...
Just found this reply. Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.
So you were driving it and no leaks, put in stabil now it leaks?
I think it always weeped ever so little. My first post was a month ago. I finally crawled under it yesterday to have a look. Only a couple drops where it was sitting, not uncommon. Now I'm wondering if it always leaks a bit on start-up but I never noticed because I just let it warm up a minute and drive away.
when all else fails
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atp-at205/overview/
Murray, are you not running the 90' adapter on yours? If not, is it possible there's either a wee flaw in the seal edge machining in the block or could you try a different brand of filter to see if that helps? :alan2cents:
even without the 90* adapter there is an adapter plate on the block that can leak
Quote from: jimynick on December 19, 2017, 07:48:24 PM
Murray, are you not running the 90' adapter on yours? If not, is it possible there's either a wee flaw in the seal edge machining in the block or could you try a different brand of filter to see if that helps? :alan2cents:
It used to leak oh so minimally with the adaptor on so we took it off. I really don't see a need for it. Using a Napa Gold filter.
Put 2540 miles on this past summer and the oil on the dipstick barely went down so i'm not loosing a lot. It just makes a mess on the underside of the car.
Quote from: cudabob496 on December 19, 2017, 07:32:30 PM
when all else fails
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atp-at205/overview/
What's the deal with this stuff? Will it gunk up the inside of the motor and cause other issues down the road?
A nice winter project would be to pull the engine/trans and re-gasket everything. Sometimes this can snowball into a lot larger project so be careful. (You don't want to put a nicely painted engine back into a dirty engine bay and before you know it, the entire car is torn apart exc...)
Darren, I'm sure that's down the road sometime. I think there's some oil moisture coming from the front end of the engine also. Just noticed it the other day. I'll be keeping a close eye on that. I'm not a "pull the engine and transmission" type of guy. Have never done that which means "it kind of scares me because I've never done it". It would be a good winter project with some help from the right person but right now I don't have a winter spot to do it. Maybe in a few years.
Bring that old hunk o junk over to the garage and we'll pull the engine/trans and you can take them and the car back home to play with. And it'll only cost you the beer- how's that for a Christmas present? :D
Quote from: Burdar on December 20, 2017, 07:35:14 AM
A nice winter project would be to pull the engine/trans and re-gasket everything. Sometimes this can snowball into a lot larger project so be careful. (You don't want to put a nicely painted engine back into a dirty engine bay and before you know it, the entire car is torn apart exc...)
:haha:
Quote from: jimynick on December 20, 2017, 03:02:40 PM
Bring that old hunk o junk over to the garage and we'll pull the engine/trans and you can take them and the car back home to play with. And it'll only cost you the beer- how's that for a Christmas present? :D
You obviously don't know how much beer Murray can drink. :drinkingbud: :pokeeye:
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=120975.0
Check out the 101 product reviews
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atp-at205/reviews/
Quote from: jimynick on December 20, 2017, 03:02:40 PM
Bring that old hunk o junk over to the garage and we'll pull the engine/trans and you can take them and the car back home to play with. And it'll only cost you the beer- how's that for a Christmas present? :D
You can barely get your car in the garage and you own the joint. How are we going to get mine in there?
And at least my hunk of junk has paint! :Stirring:
Quote from: cudabob496 on December 20, 2017, 04:03:11 PM
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=120975.0
Check out the 101 product reviews
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atp-at205/reviews/
The reviews are good but who posts bad reviews? Further to that, the reviews seem to be dealing with older engines. Mine was rebuilt 5 years ago, maybe 15,000 miles.The seals should still be good, not?
5 years should be fine especially as you drive it regularly
Well that's kind of what I thought.
QuoteI'm not a "pull the engine and transmission" type of guy. Have never done that which means "it kind of scares me because I've never done it".
You're a farmer right? Farmers are some of the most ingenuitive people on the planet. I don't see this as being a problem for you. :cheers:
Quote from: blown motor on December 20, 2017, 06:56:34 PM
Quote from: jimynick on December 20, 2017, 03:02:40 PM
Bring that old hunk o junk over to the garage and we'll pull the engine/trans and you can take them and the car back home to play with. And it'll only cost you the beer- how's that for a Christmas present? :D
You can barely get your car in the garage and you own the joint. How are we going to get mine in there?
And at least my hunk of junk has paint! :Stirring:
OH, sharper than a serpents tooth, you are! Well Mr Wisenheimer, we'll push my "unpainted" junk out the back door to let YOUR
painted junk in the front! As a "gentleman" farmer, you should be more sensitive regarding hurting other's feelings! I may get PTSD from your nasty comments, so send money and we'll talk. :))
:D
Quote from: blown motor on December 20, 2017, 07:07:21 PM
Quote from: cudabob496 on December 20, 2017, 04:03:11 PM
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=120975.0
Check out the 101 product reviews
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atp-at205/reviews/
The reviews are good but who posts bad reviews? Further to that, the reviews seem to be dealing with older engines. Mine was rebuilt 5 years ago, maybe 15,000 miles.The seals should still be good, not?
That's the most positive reviews I've seen on a product. Actually there are many negative reviews on products when they deserve it, as I buy a lot from Summit. Yes, seals "should" be good, unless there is some kinda defect, or incorrect installation, in which case it may or may not help. I'm gonna try it in my Trans Am also, as there is an oil leak that no one can seem to find. Its only $10 a bottle. Will also probably put it in my Cuda tranny as well, as I have a small leak.
Planning to buy AT-205 tomorrow to try in the power steering pump which leaks, have another pump if that doesn't stop the leak.
Let us know how it works.
Quote from: blown motor on December 30, 2017, 06:56:19 AM
Let us know how it works.
I've already put it in my Cuda engine and tranny, and Firebird engine.
Will take cars out soon as weather gets nicer. I have a finned tranny pan
on the Cuda, and there are always little drops of tranny fluid on the fins.
My lawyer tells me I am not libel if everyone's car on this site blows up, because
of my recommendation!
Bought the AT-205 today, Advance Auto actually keeps it in the back room not on the shelf , gets stolen.
Will work on it tomorrow.
gets stolen? that's a good sign!!!
Label should say, "So good, it's regularly stolen right off the shelf"
I put about 1/2 a bottle of the AT-205 in along with Lucas PS fluid. Drove about 10 miles on curvey back roads to work the steering.
Only one drop of fluid dropped to the cardboard on the floor.!
Slight seepage along the bottom was noted this morning but after 16 hours fluid level is still good !
May add additional AT-205.
Putting more mies on may stop the slight seepage .
Thank you
@cudabob496 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cudabob496_373) for the info.
I think you have to ratio it, so that you add one bottle
per 6 quarts of oil, fluid, etc.
Quote from: 73440 on January 01, 2018, 07:01:48 AM
I put about 1/2 a bottle of the AT-205 in along with Lucas PS fluid. Drove about 10 miles on curvey back roads to work the steering.
Only one drop of fluid dropped to the cardboard on the floor.!
Slight seepage along the bottom was noted this morning but after 16 hours fluid level is still good !
May add additional AT-205.
Putting more mies on may stop the slight seepage .
Thank you @cudabob496 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cudabob496_373) for the info.
How many drops would you have seen before you added it?
It would have emptied completely overnight.
Still no leaks, very very slight seepage, at about 24 hrs, so far so good , very satisfied.!
Have started the car a few times today while trying to resolve a non charging issue, so the fluid has been circulating.
10 days since using the AT-205 in the PS pump and NO leakage!
Will definetly try it in other places.
25 miles driven.
Interesting. I can't help but wonder though that if it plugs up small leaks, how does it not plug up passages where you want the oil to go.
I think what it is supposed to be doing is swelling or rejuvenate any seals to stop the leak.
I may take an old seal and submerge it in some of this product and see what it does to it.
Quote from: blown motor on January 16, 2018, 07:33:27 PM
Interesting. I can't help but wonder though that if it plugs up small leaks, how does it not plug up passages where you want the oil to go.
How did yours do while down in Florida? Lose much oil?
Quote from: blown motor on January 16, 2018, 07:33:27 PM
Interesting. I can't help but wonder though that if it plugs up small leaks, how does it not plug up passages where you want the oil to go.
It swells seals. If its just a passage, it would have no effect on oil flow..
Quote from: 73440 on January 16, 2018, 08:16:57 PM
I think what it is supposed to be doing is swelling or rejuvenate any seals to stop the leak.
I may take an old seal and submerge it in some of this product and see what it does to it.
I just ordered my 4th bottle, for other cars I have.
LOL
This stuff also seems to be decreasing my valve cover oil seepage. It could also
be helping to minimize oil leakage past the intake manifold gaskets into the intake!
I am gonna try it on my work van. It leaks from the rear main seal and oil pan.
Will pick up a bottle Monday.
I hope you get the same results as cudabob.
Quote from: blown motor on February 10, 2018, 05:44:52 PM
I hope you get the same results as cudabob.
Mee Too! I got nothing to lose. 2006 Chevy 2500 van 220,000 miles.
Let us know please.
mystery oil leak stopped on my Trans Am. Nothing in drip pan
for a month.
I called O'reilly, Advance, Autozone and NAPA. No one carries it. :notsure:
So I ordered it from Summit.
As soon as I get it I'll add it to the oil in my van.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ATP-AT-205-Re-Seal-Stops-Leaks-8-Ounce-Bottle/292044457208?epid=855198284&hash=item43ff34c4f8:g:bTQAAOSwiYlaAcQR&vxp=mtr
Didn't think of e-bay. :Thud:
That's cool though already ordered it from summit.
Thanks!
Ordered the re-seal from Summit yesterday morning. Delivered this afternoon.
I dumped the bottle in the crankcase and ran the van this afternoon for work.
We'll see in the morning if there's any change in the leaks.
Well still a puddle but much smaller than usual. We'll see tomorrow morning if it's any better.
Maybe I 'll change the oil this weekend (needs it) and try one more bottle if it doesn't get any better.
This morning 3 quarter size drips on the floor. Originally 2 baseball size spots each morning.
I think this stuff is working!
this morning 3 dime size spots.
I'll give this product a :bigthumb:
Good to hear it seems to be working on leaks in various places.
Six weeks in my power steering and no leaks !
well, so far, the way this stuff is working, its gonna be the miracle
automotive repair product of the decade. Gonna save all the motorheads
millions of dollars combined in repair costs.
also, a lotta cars are gonna be a lot cleaner underneath,
and have less potential for any kinda petroleum fire.
Today, after cruising around, pulled into driveway, lifted hood, and it didn't smell like my engine anymore. No oil smells!
I, just myself here, would NEVER EVER use "mechanic in a can" for anything! Fix it right. Just my humble opinion. Do you put sawdust in your rear end to stop a whine? or
that expanding geletin stuff in your radiator to stop a leak? Or that seal expander crap in your transmission? Do what you want - it's your car.
Put a band-aid on it, and it will likely come back to bite you in your hiney.
I started a test this morning of placing an o-ring into the AT-205 after measuring the o-ring thickness, I am assuming that it will swell.
Keep us posted.
:popcorn:
Just did some checking with the caliper.
Started at .1205" thickness at 2-3/16" diameter.
Just checked and now thickness is .1285" and 2-1/4" diameter.
Checked thickness by holding the o-ring vertical in the caliper then checking the reading when it falls out.
The o-rng will not go back into the original space in the box.
Very much more flexible also. I'd guess about 5x more flexible. Removed at 9:30 pm tonight.
The upper o-ring is the original, bottom is the one soaking in the AT-205.
Interesting, thanks.
Rear main seal leakage is down 75%. After all,
the seal is just a rope material!! And thus, engine
oil comsumption down about 75%. I'm adding a lot
less oil than I have over last 20 yrs.
My oil consumption may also be down because
this stop leak product is causing the intake manifold
gasket to seal better, thus preventing oil from going
from the lifter valley to the intake valves.
A week less than a one year update on my power steering former leak after using AT-205 RE-SEAL.
No leakage at all after a year !
That's great! Thanks for updating.