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Hey All -

I've run across an original 1970 V-Code Cuda without the original engine and transmission. It does have the original Dana 60, all the interior and sheet metal. However, the body will need several replacement panels as it is in rough shape.

I'm curious to know the opinion of the community on what the restored value of the car would be. Not that it would be built to sell, but it helps to have a dollar threshold in mind when looking at the total cost of the restoration. It would not be an "OE" type car with a ton of NOS parts, matching date codes, etc. It would be restored with reproduction parts, where needed, and would otherwise would look as close to factory as possible – interior, engine, underside, trunk, etc. Here are the options on the car that I know of:

FK5
H6X9
E87
D21
V1X
A34
G31/G33
N96
R11
It is a non-console car and does have rally gauges, which are still in the car.

What do you guys think? Obviously the value would increase if the original drive line could be located, but if not, where would you assign a "ballpark" value?

Thanks!

Neat car: My first guess would be $60k-$80k in todays values. Original hood and bubble is a big deal but I'm sure you know that. I show a huge value range but it all depends on what parts used, quality of paint, assembly and coatings.

 :iagree: but I would go a bit higher if the quality of the restoration was really nice. A real 4 speed shaker six pack I could see being $85k.  The color is cool, but not as big of a demand as high impact colors.

authentic fender tag or broadcast sheet?

Thanks guys. Yes, there is the original fender tag, but not sure about the build sheet. I've have to disassemble the interior to see if there's still one intact.

For me the colour is a bonus however if just building to sell the colour may take longer to sell than more popular colours. I think the shaker is probably the big attraction here though.

Non numbers and colour are holding it back from being a six figure car, but not much...I agree with Cody $85K range nicely restored.

Beautiful in it's original combo :twothumbsup:  Have you been able to contact past owners or found out how it got to the present condition? History counts for something, I would think.

I'm thinking $60-70K range at best.  Here's a highly optioned car, with two tags of options, and an extremely nice restoration, not selling at 88K.

http://www.alangallantautomotiverestoration.com/EV2VCODE4SALE.html

So I have to go a little lower on done value.  :alan2cents:

Quote from: fc7cuda on August 06, 2017, 03:41:31 PM
I'm thinking $60-70K range at best.  Here's a highly optioned car, with two tags of options, and an extremely nice restoration, not selling at 88K.

http://www.alangallantautomotiverestoration.com/EV2VCODE4SALE.html

So I have to go a little lower on done value.  :alan2cents:

I was thinking of that car too, but apparently the tags are questionable on the orange one. :dunno:

Thanks for all your thoughts, everyone.

As far as I know, the car was parked in 74 but I don't know why or any information on the past owners.

Initially I was thinking that the car would be in the $60-70 range, only because it does not have the original drive train, and would need sheet metal replacement. Again, it would not be restored to flip or sell, but to keep and enjoy. I'm just exploring options at this point.

If I find out any more info on the car, I'll post it.

Quote from: anlauto on August 06, 2017, 06:08:49 PM

Quote from: fc7cuda on August 06, 2017, 03:41:31 PM
I'm thinking $60-70K range at best.  Here's a highly optioned car, with two tags of options, and an extremely nice restoration, not selling at 88K.

http://www.alangallantautomotiverestoration.com/EV2VCODE4SALE.html

So I have to go a little lower on done value.  :alan2cents:

I was thinking of that car too, but apparently the tags are questionable on the orange one. :dunno:

I didn't decode the tag on the orange one..but what is questionable about it?

Quote from: mjb765 on August 07, 2017, 05:27:45 AM

Quote from: anlauto on August 06, 2017, 06:08:49 PM

Quote from: fc7cuda on August 06, 2017, 03:41:31 PM
I'm thinking $60-70K range at best.  Here's a highly optioned car, with two tags of options, and an extremely nice restoration, not selling at 88K.

http://www.alangallantautomotiverestoration.com/EV2VCODE4SALE.html

So I have to go a little lower on done value.  :alan2cents:

I was thinking of that car too, but apparently the tags are questionable on the orange one. :dunno:

I didn't decode the tag on the orange one..but what is questionable about it?

There's no documentation to back it up and I think options could have been added. I don't know the whole story... just what I've had people tell me because it's on my website.

Quote from: B5Cuda440-6 on August 06, 2017, 11:01:41 AM
It would not be an "OE" type car with a ton of NOS parts, matching date codes, etc. It would be restored with reproduction parts, where needed, and would otherwise would look as close to factory as possible

There are still a few # V's hanging around 100K, no movement.
There are a few NOM V's hanging around 85K no movement.
Now a couple NOM V's listed at 75K.
All of these have some sort of restos, need details to make right, some liberties, but not too bad.

There are always exceptions, but for completed cars now it seems the trend is options/quality/authenticity are pulling away from 2nd tier cars. It may seem like common sense, but a year or two ago everything was selling (NOM V's were at 85-95K).  I think this trend is here to stay, just as in the housing market since the crash.  Its either a handyman special/fire sale or expensive all done to a "T." The middle ground languishes.

Sounds like you're evaluating cost/return.  This car would have the options (albeit tentative color) but if repros are chosen over attainable NOS/restored correct parts then it may fall to middle ground.  You'd have to check all the boxes to minimize NOM and FK5.

A little late on the reply but from what I've seen FK5 gets no love and takes a substantial hit $ wise. Color is VERY important these days. Non #'s also takes a pretty big hit. My opinion is 50k to 65k done.

Quote from: E74cuda on September 18, 2017, 08:58:24 AM
A little late on the reply but from what I've seen FK5 gets no love and takes a substantial hit $ wise. Color is VERY important these days. Non #'s also takes a pretty big hit. My opinion is 50k to 65k done.

:iagree:  High end buyers can/are selective when really talking big $$,$$$.   :alan2cents:

Quote from: E74cuda on September 18, 2017, 08:58:24 AM
A little late on the reply but from what I've seen FK5 gets no love and takes a substantial hit $ wise. Color is VERY important these days. Non #'s also takes a pretty big hit. My opinion is 50k to 65k done.

Welcome to the site..

Is it a real V code or just a 440 with a 6 barrel on it !  A 1970 V Code should have a backward C on the engine pad. 

 :thinking:

Quote from: dennis lauver on September 18, 2017, 04:08:11 PM
Is it a real V code or just a 440 with a 6 barrel on it !  A 1970 V Code should have a backward C on the engine pad.

                             Welcome to the party @dennis lauver (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/dennis-lauver_946)    :welcome: 

Quote from: HP_Cuda on September 18, 2017, 10:53:00 PM

That "C" designation started in late 1971 not 1970.

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/TSBs/1971/D71-9-8.jpg

Lighter and .020" pistons standard  :banana:

No the 1970 had a backward "C" and the 1971 had a regular "C" I can't remember if the 69 was called a V code. 
the differences in the engines required a different balancer. 

From Larry Shepards book: 

This engine 0A150115, I don't know what it came out of, but is now in my 1967 GTX.

Engine pad:

while not from a bulletproof source - I have "0A150115" as being a 440+6 Road Runner hardtop - RM23V0A150115 - it might still be out there  :banana:

got a pic of the VIN stamp? & GTX?

Here are the pics of my car.  I will have to take photo of the engine vin again as I can not find it.  I will try to take pics tonight or am tomorrow.

Found it !!!!!

another pic of the car

The 1969 6 barrel was an "M" code

Beautiful car @dennis lauver (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/dennis-lauver_946)    :perfect10: