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Title: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: Aar1064 on March 18, 2017, 05:12:48 AM
Does anyone know if the insulation panel piece that is glued to the actual package tray is being reproduced? I've never seen it available. It extends past the tray into the corners. These corners, of course are covered by the rear quarter inside panels..

Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: Bullitt- on March 18, 2017, 05:17:50 AM
search revealed this from our buddy Mopardave
http://www.rosevillemoparts.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=package+tray+jute&search_in_description=1&imageField.x=0&imageField.y=0
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: anlauto on March 18, 2017, 06:29:10 AM
I don't think a very accurate reproduction has ever been made :alan2cents:
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: GoodysGotaCuda on March 18, 2017, 10:32:10 AM
Following, i'm in the market for an insulated package tray myself.
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: Aar1064 on March 18, 2017, 05:25:03 PM
I have the jute I just need the additional hard piece. Though the jute piece that I do have isn't long enough to reach corners. Not a problem to patch a piece in.

I've sent these pics to James Filmore of DMT and he's says he's saving for a machine that can cut the material. We may be in luck some time in the fall if he can swing it. Until then I need to make it. The material is similar to the original insulated pieces behind the kick panels and stuffed up in the A pillars and is about 1/8 inch thick.
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: Topcat on March 18, 2017, 05:31:01 PM
Quote from: anlauto on March 18, 2017, 06:29:10 AM
I don't think a very accurate reproduction has ever been made :alan2cents:

:iagree:

I recall mine when I took it out.

It had a thin type of tar over an insulation matting I recall.
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: Aar1064 on March 18, 2017, 07:29:58 PM
 :iagree: Wonder where material like that can be bought? It would be easy enough to cut it to match original.
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: Burdar on March 18, 2017, 07:50:38 PM
I think the replacement insulation I used was way too thick. There is no way the metal clips would have clipped in place. The rear seat and side panels are holding my package tray in.
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: Aar1064 on March 19, 2017, 04:52:21 AM
Quote from: Burdar on March 18, 2017, 07:50:38 PM
I think the replacement insulation I used was way too thick. There is no way the metal clips would have clipped in place. The rear seat and side panels are holding my package tray in.

That's good to know.
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: Floyd on September 21, 2021, 06:46:43 AM
Thought I'd revive this old thread and provide an update on sourcing a more accurate package tray/insulation assembly for my 70 Challenger.  As already pointed out I this thread, the original package trays consisted of a masonite top tray (black on the upside, raw finish on the underside) glued to a solid fiber backed piece of approximately 1/4 Jute.

Pics of my original and another pic that a friend shared from his original T/A.

As you can see, the masonite top tray was cut shorter than the solid fiber backed Jute.  My original top tray measured 46" wide, which extends about 1" underneath  the 1/4 interior panel.  The insulation extends about another 4" on each side.
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: Floyd on September 21, 2021, 07:17:14 AM
After speaking with Mike Miller at REM I learned that they offer a "mastic-backed" Jute insulation for other models and that they could work up that product for my application.  The mastic backing is a thicker tar paper like material that is adhered to 1/4" thick Jute insulation.  Since REM doesn't sell direct, they recommended placing an order through one of the parts vendors. 

I worked with Tom at ECS and placed a custom order.  Pics attached of the REM product.
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: Floyd on September 21, 2021, 07:25:43 AM
The REM masonite package tray and mastic Jute insulation are cut to the same shape/dimensions.  The mastic backing is thinner than the original.  I'd estimate the original solid fiber backing is about 1/8" thick while the REM product is closer to 1/16" (it comes rolled up in a bag).

To match my original, I cut down the package tray to 46" width and then glued the insulation to the underside. 
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: Floyd on September 21, 2021, 07:30:50 AM
The only thing I couldn't faithfully duplicate was reattaching the retaining clips to the underside of the masonite package tray.  I tried tapping them in without any luck and wasn't convinced that any adhesive would be strong enough to hold while installing (or removing) the package tray.  They aren't crucial obviously, but it would have been nice.

Anyway, if anyone else is interested in getting this type of insulation you can order it through your favorite supplier.  Of course, I'd recommend Tom at ECS, who was super helpful.  Also, hats off to Mike Miller at REM, who is a Mopar guy and who was also super helpful!
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: DeathProofCuda on September 21, 2021, 09:36:05 AM
@Floyd (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/floyd_415) Thank you.  That is a great update to this thread.  Can you give us an idea of what you paid for the custom order of the backing material?
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: Floyd on September 21, 2021, 10:23:52 AM
Sure - It was $95 for the package tray and $30 for the Mastic Jute plus shipping.

I have the part number for the Challenger package tray.  I believe there are several material choices.  I wanted the masonite since it is closest to original IMO.  Mine obviously is the no rear speaker slot option.
Title: Re: Package tray insulation panel
Post by: R/T's 4 R/P on September 21, 2021, 03:40:29 PM
This is super helpful! Most people don't have this accurate in their restoration. Thanks for helping out the hobby for all of us.
Hard to believe that ECS doesn't supply the Masonite panel with the clip holder in place, or even as a complete assembly with the pad.