My beautiful wife has agreed for me to transform my 1970 challenger to a Hellcrate engine and interior to a later edition. I am getting closer to the end of removing rusty old metal. I am now in the phase of installing new metal. Finally, no rust any place in the car. So, I am now in the planning stage of up grading the 440 to a Hellcrate engine and the interior to a late model Challenger. I am looking for any advice from any one with this experience or knowledge. :thinking:
Thanks in advance,
Mark
Very cool, make sure to start a thread on the build here and take lots of pictures. I'm putting a 6.1 in mine, a Hellcrate will be ordered when I win the lottery! :D
wow, very cool...have you given any thought to reinforcing the body and all the drive train improvements required so the engine will not kill everything else?
The interior will be tricky, that will need a lot of custom fitting.
Jason
Quote from: Moparkin on August 07, 2019, 11:43:38 AM
My beautiful wife has agreed for me to transform my 1970 challenger to a Hellcrate engine and interior to a later edition. I am getting closer to the end of removing rusty old metal. I am now in the phase of installing new metal. Finally, no rust any place in the car. So, I am now in the planning stage of up grading the 440 to a Hellcrate engine and the interior to a late model Challenger. I am looking for any advice from any one with this experience or knowledge. :thinking:
Thanks in advance,
Mark
Mark, very cool. thanks
@303 Mopar (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/303-mopar_7) . I have pretty much all of the Hellcat crate engine with necessary secondary cooling parts and sub components in stock, I can also assist with auto or manual trans Kit options, suspension options. long or shorty TTI headers, Radiator, efi tanks. If you would like to chat about what all it will take. feel free to call me direct office 586-859-2575
Great modernizing upgrade project :twothumbsup: will also keep an eye on it for reference :bigthumb:
Cool engine choice!
Me? I wouldn't put a "modern" interior in. A lot of work for something that will look dated in a few years.
Get some recaros and recover in OEM materials. Get some Dakota DIgital cluster in a Rallye housing. Put in a 3-speaker, AC dashpad in. Get some Metro door panels for power windows and stick an electric-life setup in there with OEM Mopar switches.
CHeaper, and more classic looking. Someday, you'll want to sell your car, and hard to sell when the interior has been customized to an old "modern" interior.
Kudos to you, if I ever do another car I want to do the same and a modern interior. Look forward to seeing your progress.
Quote from: ragtopdodge on August 07, 2019, 02:25:19 PM
CHeaper, and more classic looking. Someday, you'll want to sell your car, and hard to sell when the interior has been customized to an old "modern" interior.
Not that he asked, but I agree. Interior builds are a very touchy subject, but build it as you please! Good luck, the new engines are fun!
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Thanks 303 Mopar , I will be reaching out to Dave.
Just to play devil's advocate... will late model seats be low enough... ? :notsure:
Thanks Sound Control, Unfortunately I have not the lottery but I keep trying. I sold my F-150 and most of my toys to afford this project. The wife recognized I was serous when I started driving the family spare Honda Mini-van.
Thanks Cuda Jason, I will be considering extra up grades to meet the demand of the Hellcrate engine. I already have the frame rails extended. Please list any items you may think I need to consider.
The first things that come to mind would be the USCartools stiffening kit with front aprons and rad support reinforcements, torque boxes and subframe connectors. If you put all that in you should be good to go I would think. :cheers:
Thanks Mopar Dave, if it okay? I will give you a call next week. I am looking for Hellcrate engine, the plug and play wiring harness, and all of the pulleys attached. Also, I may need a new K frame for the Hellocrate. I am looking to minimize space under the hood for AC, headers and electric steering.
Thanks Again,
Mark
Thanks Bigshclunk. After replacing so many body panels, i have become a pretty decent metal fabricator. I think I will be able to adjust the height as needed. My seats in the 1970 Challenger are to low now and I am 6"2".
Thanks Again,
Mark
Thanks for the advice Ragtopdodge. I have not fully committed to the interior modern change out. You make some good points. However, no matter if the interior original or comfortably updated, in few years it will have to be replaced because I plan to drive it like I stole it!
Cool sounding build. Your build sounds somewhat what I have envisioned for my car. I'm not going to do the complete modern interior, but definitely upgraded front seats, stereo and gauges. And of course a 3rd gen Hemi.
Quote from: BIGSHCLUNK on August 07, 2019, 09:18:32 PM
Just to play devil's advocate... will late model seats be low enough... ? :notsure:
With a little modification to the floor boards, late model seats fit fine.
Quote from: Moparkin on August 07, 2019, 09:36:40 PM
Thanks Mopar Dave, if it okay? I will give you a call next week. I am looking for Hellcrate engine, the plug and play wiring harness, and all of the pulleys attached. Also, I may need a new K frame for the Hellocrate. I am looking to minimize space under the hood for AC, headers and electric steering.
Thanks Again,
Mark
Mark. i'm open anytime at on your time. If I don't answer. leave a message and i'll return your call. thanks.
Quote from: Moparkin on August 07, 2019, 09:49:17 PM
Thanks for the advice Ragtopdodge. I have not fully committed to the interior modern change out. You make some good points. However, no matter if the interior original or comfortably updated, in few years it will have to be replaced because I plan to drive it like I stole it!
This is SORTA what I meant (don't like the gauges; prefer OEM w/DD gauges), but you get the idea how to me, this looks better:
(https://forum.e-bodies.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.musclecarsworld.com%2Fgallery%2F1970-dodge-challenger-xv-motorsports-restomod-with-modern-hemi%2F1970-dodge-challenger-xv-motorsports-15.jpg&hash=7c1ac3b7228f0c55a6571e8c5c9ee6ac44e31f4a)
Than this:
(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/the-drive-cms-content-staging/message-editor%2F1562790550936-66186605_3054826651224783_909183437703741440_o.jpg)
Took me forever to find this. Was trying to remember the builds name when all I had to do was go search in the restoration pages :whiteflag:
https://forum.e-bodies.org/your-restoration-project-roseville-moparts/10/1971-cuda-hellcat-chiquita/5778/
Quote from: ragtopdodge on August 08, 2019, 04:43:15 PM
Quote from: Moparkin on August 07, 2019, 09:49:17 PM
Thanks for the advice Ragtopdodge. I have not fully committed to the interior modern change out. You make some good points. However, no matter if the interior original or comfortably updated, in few years it will have to be replaced because I plan to drive it like I stole it!
This is SORTA what I meant (don't like the gauges; prefer OEM w/DD gauges), but you get the idea how to me, this looks better:
(https://forum.e-bodies.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.musclecarsworld.com%2Fgallery%2F1970-dodge-challenger-xv-motorsports-restomod-with-modern-hemi%2F1970-dodge-challenger-xv-motorsports-15.jpg&hash=7c1ac3b7228f0c55a6571e8c5c9ee6ac44e31f4a)
Than this:
(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/the-drive-cms-content-staging/message-editor%2F1562790550936-66186605_3054826651224783_909183437703741440_o.jpg)
For comparison sake, here's my Speedhut dash
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190809/f873199cb0049ef8701aa5400e7c0389.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190809/7f6d692dd1ce9d6fd503bf7ed5956517.jpg)
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That top picture reminds me of a 67-68 camaro. Not a mopar cluster. :alan2cents:
When are you planning on starting the build? Will there be firewall modifications?