Warranty & rebuilt block tag riveted to the side of the engine.
I have a buddy locally that bought a 68 GTS Dart , it is an original 383 BB car but the motor is gone, he has all the exhaust manifolds etc... He found a correct date code 383 block but the seller says it has no vin number stamped on the block? I'm suspicious wondering if someone milled it off? or? Could it be a warranty block with no vin? What do I look out for, I need an education from "someone in the know"?
Thanks Brad
No VIN engines are pretty rare. They bring a higher price then other engines (assuming it's not a numbers matching). Warranty Blocks did not have the VIN stamped by the factory, but sometimes the dealer would stamp them. All Warranty Block should have a Riveted Tag or at least the hole. A block without a tag (or hole) and no VIN is most likely an over the counter block sold by the parts department. Those are still pretty rare and hard to find too.
Quote from: Cuda Cody on January 08, 2017, 02:53:10 PM
No VIN engines are pretty rare. They bring a higher price then other engines (assuming it's not a numbers matching). Warranty Blocks did not have the VIN stamped by the factory, but sometimes the dealer would stamp them. All Warranty Block should have a Riveted Tag or at least the hole. A block without a tag (or hole) and no VIN is most likely an over the counter block sold by the parts department. Those are still pretty rare and hard to find too.
Thanks for the info, I'll check for the hole and/or tag. :wave:
Quote from: Brads70 on January 08, 2017, 02:46:00 PM
I have a buddy locally that bought a 68 GTS Dart , it is an original 383 BB car but the motor is gone, he has all the exhaust manifolds etc... He found a correct date code 383 block but the seller says it has no vin number stamped on the block? I'm suspicious wondering if someone milled it off? or? Could it be a warranty block with no vin? What do I look out for, I need an education from "someone in the know"?
Thanks Brad
Brad,
Is he looking ar the rear of the block by the oil pressure sending unit for the number?
Tom
Quote from: fc7cuda on January 08, 2017, 05:12:28 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on January 08, 2017, 02:46:00 PM
I have a buddy locally that bought a 68 GTS Dart , it is an original 383 BB car but the motor is gone, he has all the exhaust manifolds etc... He found a correct date code 383 block but the seller says it has no vin number stamped on the block? I'm suspicious wondering if someone milled it off? or? Could it be a warranty block with no vin? What do I look out for, I need an education from "someone in the know"?
Thanks Brad
Brad,
Is he looking ar the rear of the block by the oil pressure sending unit for the number?
Tom
I'm not sure he didn't say? I don't think he has layed eyes on it yet, just talked to the seller?
I like the Toronto one :canada:
Quote from: anlauto on January 08, 2017, 05:46:15 PM
I like the Toronto one :canada:
I'm sure that's where he found it.
Cool thread, I've never seen that tag on any block around here.
I've never came across one in 32+ years either :dunno:
This is the location they can be found...
Well we went down tonight and had a look at this 383 block. It had 12 4 67 cast into it. No hole for a warranty tag and no vin numbers that I could find. It had 2 bosses drilled and tapped for what the seller says are A-Body motor mounts ? This is all new to me? It did have a series of numbers stamped on the machined area under the starter? Seller said they didn't stamp vin numbers till 68-1969? I have pictures but my cell is dead and charging. I'll post them tomorrow.
If it's a 68 block (cast in 67) then the VIN would be on top where the bellhousing bolts up. Each character was done one at a time unlike 1969 and up. So the letters are kinda all over the place, but always in the same location.
Thanks Cody, that's helpful! :bradsthumb:
Question... with the 12 4 67 cast into it. How does it go 12th month 4th day 1967
or 12th day 4th month 1967?
I don't know 68's that well, but I think it's Dec 4th 67. Making it a 68 model year engine.
PT = Trenton Plant
383 = Cubic Inch
R = Regular Fuel
2337 = Built Dec 21st 1967
0299 = 299th engine built that day.
Quote from: Cuda Cody on January 11, 2017, 05:51:32 PM
PT = Trenton Plant
383 = Cubic Inch
R = Regular Fuel
2337 = Built Dec 21st 1967
0299 = 299th engine built that day.
:worship: Awesome! Wow that was quick! Thanks!!
Quote from: Cuda Cody on January 11, 2017, 05:51:32 PM
PT = Trenton Plant
383 = Cubic Inch
R = Regular Fuel
2337 = Built Dec 21st 1967
0299 = 299th engine built that day.
Just learning.... how is 2337= Dec21st?
@Cuda Cody (http://forum.e-bodies.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1)
Charlie had one in the orange Cuda he sold on Ebay. your right unstamped 340 blocks are rare.
Top stamp is a D = 1968
Which is actually nice that both pieces of info match each other.
:cheers:
Thanks guys, we drove down again tonight and my buddy bought it. :clapping: