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Title: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: kmiller on September 02, 2020, 10:52:07 AM
cant decide what the best course of action is on painting the car. 

Do i paint the header panel ,fenders, door, hood separate and risk paint damage assembling or paint assembled? 

what have you guys done?
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: JS29 on September 02, 2020, 12:33:19 PM
What color?
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: Claudia on September 02, 2020, 01:14:23 PM
 :alan2cents: I painted the underside / backside of most all parts first (header panel, hood, fenders, jams, doors, trunk lid, front and rear valances), then assembled most of those parts on the car and then painted the entire car.
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: Shane Kelley on September 02, 2020, 02:00:29 PM
It can be done either way. For metallics I highly recommend painting it all together so you don't run into some flop that makes the color look off between panels.   
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: JS29 on September 02, 2020, 03:08:19 PM
 :iagree: That is why I asked about the color.
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: 71vert340 on September 02, 2020, 03:30:46 PM
 I'm doing my Charger in B5 blue and I'm doing it in pieces. So far, no problem. The exterior of all panels are coming from the same gallon of color. I'm using the same settings on my gun and using the same patterns when spraying each piece. So far, so good.
Terry
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: kmiller on September 02, 2020, 03:44:51 PM
no metallics, the color is just plan ol black
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: RUNCHARGER on September 02, 2020, 06:31:44 PM
Black, I'd do it in pieces. If I end up spraying my Son's car, that's the way I'll do it.
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: Shane Kelley on September 03, 2020, 05:19:38 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on September 02, 2020, 06:31:44 PM
Black, I'd do it in pieces. If I end up spraying my Son's car, that's the way I'll do it.
:iagree:
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: JS29 on September 03, 2020, 06:08:13 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on September 02, 2020, 06:31:44 PM
Black, I'd do it in pieces. If I end up spraying my Son's car, that's the way I'll do it.
:iagree: X3
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: Cuda Cody on September 03, 2020, 08:29:52 AM
I'm a huge fan of base coat / clear coat.  Nothing beats it.  Except when it comes to Black.  All other colors I use base coat / clear coat, but if you want the deepest black you'll ever see on a car it's best to use PPG DCC Concept 9300 single stage black.  It's by far the deepest and best black ever made.  Here's my secret formula that I learned from the PPG factory lab...

~DEEPEST BEST BLACK EVER (Show Car) PPG DCC Concept 9300 Black
     - First coat = mix at normal ratio (DCC @ 4 parts  /  DCX61 @ 1 parts  /  DT Reducer @ 2 parts)
     - Second & Third coats = Take the same mix from the first coat and mix it at 50 / 50 with 2021 clear. The 2021 clear is mixed at (DCU2021 @ 4 parts  /  DCX61 @ 1 part  /  DT Reducer @1 part)
     - 4th and all addition coats = DCU2021 only.


If you want a show car paint job, follow that formula and let it dry for about a week or two minimum.  Cut (sand it) perfect flat with 600 grit and put another 3 to 4 coats of DCU2021 clear coat on it.  Wait about 4 to 6 months and cut it to a mirror finish.  This step is only needed if you are going to compete at a high level of show cars.  The first steps in this process will get you 98% of the results. 

Here's my notes from the factory training I did at PPG.  What was great about the private event was they would tell us the best of everything, even if it's wasn't a PPG product.  I took as many notes as I could.  This class was not open to the public so I knew I had to get all the info I could as fast as I could write.  I encourage you to copy, print, share and hold on to this Black formula.  You will not find it anywhere else.   
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: Cuda Cody on September 03, 2020, 08:40:44 AM
The PPG class was so much fun.  But we were not suppose to take photos so I had to sneak shots in when I could.  I tried to take my phone out to the paint booth where we got to test out new products and all the different guns, but they patted us down and took our phones before they would let us out of the class room.  They had some top secret stuff out there.
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: Shane Kelley on September 03, 2020, 10:13:02 AM
I have the same opinion as Cody on black. Single stage all the way. This is single stage.
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: RUNCHARGER on September 03, 2020, 07:59:46 PM
Yes: True black all the way, no clear.
Title: Re: painting question in pieces or complete?
Post by: cuda hunter on September 03, 2020, 08:35:00 PM
thanks for sharing the info @Cuda Cody (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cuda-cody_1) !!