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Title: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on January 02, 2021, 06:16:33 AM
Thought I should start a little build thread to document some of my progress. I picked up a 1974 e58 360 Cuda in 2017 just north of Vaughn Ontario. It had been sitting in the second floor of a barn. The engine was dismantled. We were able to fill up the tires and roll it right out. I have more pictures of where it was in the barn I can add later. Overall the car was in decent shape, being my first project I didn't know much.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on January 02, 2021, 06:26:26 AM
As I started to disassemble the car I realized the 360 needed alot of work. I want to drive this car and for my needs realized a 5.7 would be a good option. I then bought two different cars a roll over 2009 5.7 challenger go mango auto that was running and driving and a 2015 5.7 that had caught on fire with 5000km on it. I bought the 2015 to salvage the 6 speed manual tr6060 for the project. Both cars were parted out. The 2015s engine was junk it had been filled with water but the tranny and suspension were in great shape.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Swamp Donkey on January 02, 2021, 06:27:46 AM
Cool.  Looks like a good starting point so far. 


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Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: b5cuda on January 02, 2021, 06:35:02 AM
Nice!  I'm slowly but surely doing a similar project, '73 cuda with 5.7 and 833 trans.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: anlauto on January 02, 2021, 07:33:33 AM
Interesting one to watch...
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on January 02, 2021, 08:09:29 AM
I followed goodysgotacuda build and it had some great info, kind of why I figured I should document mine aswell. If it helps one person it was worth the effort! First thing I did once the car was disassembled was reinforce the transmission mount area and add an extra piece for support. I also played the side of the frame rail that extends up to the front where the extra piece ties into.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on January 02, 2021, 08:18:56 AM
I then purchased a set of Doug's headers to see how they would fit with the stock tr6060. They will need to be modified to fit around the starter since on the stock challenger the starter is on the passenger side. The Doug's headers have lots of room for the starter on the driver side if you were to buy an aftermarket bellhousing. They slightly touch the torsion bar on the passenger side. Not a big deal that will be addressed when I modify the headers. I also had to fabricate a mount to attach the rear of the tranny to the tranny mount that I made. I set the tranny at a 3 degree angle if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on January 02, 2021, 12:10:41 PM
Once I had the tranny mount made I decided to work on the tunnel and shifter placement. I was able to use an aftermarket Barton shifter for the tr6060 to set the shifter into a reasonable position. I've never done any sheet metal work but slowly picked away at it. I bought a sheet metal break, bead roller, English wheel and a mig and went to work. I wanted to be able to replace most of the panels myself.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on January 03, 2021, 06:43:24 AM
After the tunnel was done I was able to start work on some of the other panels. I bought a rotisserie that was setup for a Mercedes and modified it to work with the cuda! I needed to attach a winch and pullies to be able to move it. It was cheap enough and did the job! Better than laying on your back.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: anlauto on January 03, 2021, 08:56:18 AM
@Alexcuda (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/alexcuda_3817) are you going to need a new clutch for your project ? I have one coming in soon....I'm just in Georgetown Ontario... :burnout:

https://forum.e-bodies.org/whats-it-worth/15/new-hemi-clutch-and-manifolds/19579/
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: usraptor on January 04, 2021, 04:53:46 PM
Nice project. Considering you haven't done sheet metal work before I'd said you're doing just fine.   :clapping:  I always admire people who have fabrication skills.  Looking forward to watching your progress.   :bigthumb:
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: GoodysGotaCuda on January 04, 2021, 05:29:41 PM
Lookin' good  :wrenching:
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on January 06, 2021, 05:36:27 AM
Started by fixing some holes, driver floor, passenger and driver rear floor, driver rocker and a few other small spots overall it was in decent shape. I used a frame jack to straighten alot of the small stuff on the bottom. The rear leaf springs plates were blown out and rewelded from the rear side at some point in its life. I ended up buying new rear quarters off of kijiji, and new trunk extensions and outer wheelhousings.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on January 06, 2021, 05:38:51 AM
Alan I am good on the clutch right now, I will probably change my throwout bearing assembly but my clutch only has 5k on it and looks good!!
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: anlauto on January 06, 2021, 05:41:37 AM
Quote from: Alexcuda on January 06, 2021, 05:38:51 AM
Alan I am good on the clutch right now, I will probably change my throwout bearing assembly but my clutch only has 5k on it and looks good!!

Thanks for getting back to me....I have no idea what these parts might be worth, but they will likely end up on KiJiJi :drinkingbud:
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on January 06, 2021, 05:44:18 AM
Driver rocker rust hole.... For a Canadian car the 30k miles must of been mainly summertime because this was the worst of the rust damage besides the rear quarters.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on March 07, 2021, 05:05:13 AM
Coated the entire bottom and inside with por15 them laid raptor liner overtop. The finish came out great and is tough as nails. Waiting to get the car back sitting on the suspension to finish welding in the rear quarter.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on March 07, 2021, 05:16:10 AM
Made my own powder coating oven, have been doing all my parts. Welded up supports on my k frame and boxed it in. Also added a skid plate for the oil miloden oil pan.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: anlauto on March 07, 2021, 06:49:29 AM
Is that interior shot "Raptor Liner " ?
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: usraptor on March 07, 2021, 10:43:18 AM
WOW! for being your "first project" I'd say you are doing fantastic!  :worship: :clapping: :unbelievable: You have some mad skills there.   :twothumbsup:
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on March 07, 2021, 01:53:46 PM
Yes I shot the entire interior with raptor liner aswell. The car will officially never rust again. I was so impressed with the bottom i did the interior floorpan for heat and noise reduction. I por15 everything else inside again this is going to be a driver and at the end of the day everything will be covered by carpet.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on March 07, 2021, 02:00:37 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys some more pics
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on March 07, 2021, 02:02:49 PM
Got my.hotchkiss upper a arms coated and got the front suspension bolted in.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: anlauto on March 07, 2021, 03:51:52 PM
@Alexcuda (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/alexcuda_3817) How much Raptor liner product did you buy to cover the bottom of the car ?  Or how much do I need to buy to cover the complete bottom side of the car as well as inside the wheel wells and front fenders ?
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on March 07, 2021, 04:08:10 PM
I purchased a 8L kit from a store in Alberta. I did the complete bottom without the rear wheel wells or quarter in place as well as the inside floor and trunk with using 6 of the 8 bottles. I would say 6 bottles for what your describing and you should have a little left over.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: anlauto on March 07, 2021, 04:14:23 PM
Thanks, I was looking at this kit wondering if it's overkill https://www.amazon.ca/UP0820V-RAPTOR%C2%AE-LINER-KIT-BLACK/dp/B0893Z5RKD/ref=sr_1_2?crid=35KZ2VO4X2TTX&dchild=1&keywords=raptor+liner&qid=1615162380&sprefix=rapto%2Caps%2C192&sr=8-2  or if that's a decent price ? I have no idea...
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on March 09, 2021, 04:45:16 PM
I think I paid around $320 shipped for 8L  if I recall it was on sale.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: anlauto on March 09, 2021, 06:12:08 PM
Thanks....I don't need it just yet....but I'm addicted to Amazon lately  :drunk: ...I gotta get out more... :checkmail:
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: YellowThumper on March 09, 2021, 08:19:36 PM
Solid progress there. Litterally...
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Jay Bee on April 25, 2021, 01:03:24 PM
Very impressive to say the least!  :bigthumb:   :clapping: 
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: nsmall on April 25, 2021, 09:48:17 PM
Great job and great progress. :bradsthumb:
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on April 26, 2021, 04:34:29 AM
Recent progress includes swapping my gears to some 3.91s the rear end is powder coated and in the car, started mocking up my exhaust manifolds but they don't look like they are going to work. Started working on my e brake and brake assembly. Made new bushings and pins on the lathe.
Title: Re: 1974 Cuda 5.7 Build
Post by: Alexcuda on April 26, 2021, 04:39:15 AM
Front wheels on the ground