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Technical Shop => Exhaust => Topic started by: tparker on February 03, 2021, 02:39:17 PM

Title: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: tparker on February 03, 2021, 02:39:17 PM
What are the benifits of ceramic over raw headers? I assume perhaps heat control and corrosion? Is it a big difference? Worth the money? Would an alternative be to wrap the raw headers? Just looking to save a few bucks were I can as it all adds up. Is it worth penny pinching here or not?

FYI, looking at Doug's Headers
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: shawge on February 03, 2021, 03:09:20 PM
 :alan2cents: Ceramic coating all the way. Cuts down on heat and corrosion. Don't get me wrong it is still hot but not 8 cherry red stovepipes hot. Header paint or wraps will not last long, then rust will set in.

Check local powder coating places in your area, most often they also do ceramic coatings.
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: Topcat on February 03, 2021, 05:33:12 PM
Heat reduction in engine compartment will save soft parts from drying out and going bad.

Thus the extra cost for Ceramic coating will offset over time; parts that normally would've been replaced without it.
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: dodj on February 03, 2021, 05:39:37 PM
I would go for ceramic just for looks. If you are concerned about reducing under hood heat, a wrap, I believe, is more effective.
They say ceramic headers reduce under hood heat, but I can't really tell the difference?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: Chryco Psycho on February 03, 2021, 06:11:13 PM
The second time you buy raw headers you will wish you had spent the extra for ceramic !
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: tparker on February 03, 2021, 06:39:26 PM
Thanks all. Seems pretty universal to go for the ceramic.
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: 7212Mopar on February 03, 2021, 10:59:35 PM
Make sure it is coated inside and outside of the tube. Inside coating is a thermal black coating. Outside is the shiny ceramic coating. Polish outside is extra. At least for TTI. It is all worth it. Painted headers will rust in no time.
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: tparker on February 04, 2021, 11:17:25 AM
Interesting, I didn't think the inside needed to be coated. I'll check. Thanks for the tidbit
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: MOPAR MITCH on February 05, 2021, 01:53:28 PM
I have an old set of ceramic coated Hooker Comps... #5115?... that I bought and installed onto my 340 Challenger in year 1986.
although they've hit the ground occasionally (car is lowered), they still show very well in the engine compartment... no rust at all!  I would definitely only get ceramic coated headers again sometime in the future.
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: CudaA39 on February 05, 2021, 05:14:54 PM
I would never buy raw headers unless I had a coater lined up prior to install.  Then again, not all coatings or coaters are the same.  I had a local powder coated strip and recover my Hooker units and they looked flawless after several seasons.  Not a place to skimp IMO
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: anlauto on February 05, 2021, 06:13:14 PM
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on February 03, 2021, 06:11:13 PM
The second time you buy raw headers you will wish you had spent the extra for ceramic !

:haha: :haha: :haha: Sound advice right there  :twothumbsup:
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: Topcat on February 05, 2021, 07:27:09 PM
I actually thought about opening a Museum:

It would be called "Road Rash Header Museum"

Featuring Headers throughout the decades and the damage occurred bottoming out.   :crazytalk:
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: nsmall on February 05, 2021, 11:44:00 PM
TTI headers on my 340 in my opinion it doesn't get too hot in the car or I don't notice any difference versus the stock manifold I used to run.   They still look good after a couple thousand miles but who knows what they'll look like way down the road. 
Title: Re: Raw or ceramic Headers?
Post by: cudaragtop on February 06, 2021, 01:02:05 AM
TTi Thermal Lined and Polished Ceramic Coated!  :bradsthumb:

Can't say much about them yet, except that they fit and look awesome.